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In a message dated 1/19/04 2:05:40 PM Central Standard Time, jalilahs_soul@... writes:

Can someone tell me how or if they differ??? Has the program changed

since 10 years ago?? My deal a meal should arrive this weekend, but

I'm wondering if the food mover is better in some way???

Thanks. :o)

I can't tell you which is better or how they differ. But I can tell you that I adore the FoodMover program! Sorry I couldn't help more..hope you are happy with the deal a meal program!! Please keep us updated on how your doing!! Take care and hope you have a great night!!

Best Wishes for a great day!!

Sue...

"With love, confidence, patience

and hard work anything is possible in life!"

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I have tried the deal a meal and the food mover. I like the food mover

because there are more choices without figuring which windows to put down.

The food mover just seems easier to me.

christina

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> Can someone tell me how or if they differ???

AFAIK the changes are minor, like adding a fat to a protein here and there

for certain meats or cheeses, or changing the volume of something from 1/2

cup to 1/3 for a more accurate calorie count. Of course, the handy-dandy

FoodMover gadget, where you slide a window closed is easier than moving a

card from one side of the wallet to the other. The FoodMover booklets give a

little more exchange info than the DealAMeal, but neither covers *that* many

foods, which is why I recommend that everyone buy a diabetic exchange book

when they go to a bookstore.

And remember, every time he released a " new " FoodMover he would combine a

few new videos and maybe a weight set or stretchy band with the package.

With the latest, the Slimaway Everyday, each time he released it he added

either more recipe cards or another one of those BlastOff videos that he

made a few years ago and never released monthly, as he first planned. He

made 12 at the time, and I think only 6 or 8 have been released, so far.

All in all, if you're happy with the DealAMeal and know where to get

exchange info for the foods you eat, there is no reason to switch unless you

want a new toy (the FoodMover gadget) to play with. :)

Sue in NJ

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I just ordered the Food Mover gold and it will take 4-6 weeks so I am using the deal a meal cards. Can't wait to get the Food mover in the mail.

Barbara

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In a message dated 1/19/04 2:05:40 PM Central Standard Time, jalilahs_soul@... writes:

Can someone tell me how or if they differ??? Has the program changed since 10 years ago?? My deal a meal should arrive this weekend, but I'm wondering if the food mover is better in some way???Thanks. :o)I can't tell you which is better or how they differ. But I can tell you that I adore the FoodMover program! Sorry I couldn't help more..hope you are happy with the deal a meal program!! Please keep us updated on how your doing!! Take care and hope you have a great night!!

Best Wishes for a great day!!Sue..."With love, confidence, patience and hard work anything is possible in life!"To unsubscribe DO NOT send a message to the list.Please click on this link and unsubscribe:100-plus/join

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I just ordered the food mover gold with the cookbook. I have the two deal a meal cookbooks and love them.

Barbara

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> Can someone tell me how or if they differ???AFAIK the changes are minor, like adding a fat to a protein here and therefor certain meats or cheeses, or changing the volume of something from 1/2cup to 1/3 for a more accurate calorie count. Of course, the handy-dandyFoodMover gadget, where you slide a window closed is easier than moving acard from one side of the wallet to the other. The FoodMover booklets give alittle more exchange info than the DealAMeal, but neither covers *that* manyfoods, which is why I recommend that everyone buy a diabetic exchange bookwhen they go to a bookstore.And remember, every time he released a "new" FoodMover he would combine afew new videos and maybe a weight set or stretchy band with the package.With the latest, the Slimaway Everyday, each time he released it he addedeither more recipe cards or another one of those BlastOff videos that hemade a few years ago and never released monthly, as he first planned. Hemade 12 at the time, and I think only 6 or 8 have been released, so far.All in all, if you're happy with the DealAMeal and know where to getexchange info for the foods you eat, there is no reason to switch unless youwant a new toy (the FoodMover gadget) to play with. :)Sue in NJTo unsubscribe DO NOT send a message to the list.Please click on this link and unsubscribe:100-plus/join

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> Can someone tell me how or if they differ??? Has the program

changed

> since 10 years ago?? My deal a meal should arrive this weekend,

but

> I'm wondering if the food mover is better in some way???

>

> Thanks. :o)

They are basically the same. FoodMover is a bit more convenient in

that it is physically less bulky and the exchange books include more

preprinted food choices per food category.

Kim

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> I guess I'm mostly wondering if the method is the same. With deal

a meal the first week or so was 1200 calories a day, then it went up

to like 1400. Is the food mover like that too?

>

Yep. All that is the same. The calorie plans are 1000, 1200, 1400,

1600, 1800, 2000. Between 200 and 250 lbs, the level is 1600.

Above 250lbs, 2000 calories and below 200 lbs, 1400 calories

Kim

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> Ahh... okay. But I thought the list of foods was on the back of the

card?? My copy 10 years was like that.

For the FoodMover, the food items' exchanges are in accompanying booklets.

> Was that you or someone else who said the food mover was sold at

Walgreens?

Yes, at least in *our* Walgreens it is, for about a year now.

> With deal a meal the first week or so was 1200 calories a day, then it

went up to like 1400.

1000 for the first week, from then on it goes by your current (*not* goal)

weight. If you still have your DealAMeal booklet, it's in there, I think the

page after the Contract To Myself, or something.

Sue in NJ

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> Cool! I wish I knew what the difference was between deal a meal and the

food mover. Has the diet itself changed since deal a meal??

No. You can read all about both plans on my web site at

http://members.tripod.com/sue_in_nj/rich.htm

Sue in NJ

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while, you might miss it. " -Ferris Bueller

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>My deal a meal wallet fell apart

My blue one was being held together with electrical tape after a few years,

which is why I was happy to buy the new one in the brown wallet when he

introduced it. Why I keep buying new FoodMovers, though, I'll never know.

Sue in NJ

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Yes that is right you have to start out at 1000 calories for the first week and then what calories for the weight that you are then. I have to start this week sometime but can't seem to be able to think that I can only have 1000 this first week and I just got the time of the month so I know that I will lose water weight this week.

Barbara

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> Ahh... okay. But I thought the list of foods was on the back of thecard?? My copy 10 years was like that.For the FoodMover, the food items' exchanges are in accompanying booklets.> Was that you or someone else who said the food mover was sold atWalgreens?Yes, at least in *our* Walgreens it is, for about a year now.> With deal a meal the first week or so was 1200 calories a day, then itwent up to like 1400.1000 for the first week, from then on it goes by your current (*not* goal)weight. If you still have your DealAMeal booklet, it's in there, I think thepage after the Contract To Myself, or something.Sue in NJTo unsubscribe DO NOT send a message to the list.Please click on this link and unsubscribe:100-plus/join

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The tape was not working anymore and I was just writing down what cards I was using every day but that is a pain.

Barbara

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>My deal a meal wallet fell apartMy blue one was being held together with electrical tape after a few years,which is why I was happy to buy the new one in the brown wallet when heintroduced it. Why I keep buying new FoodMovers, though, I'll never know.Sue in NJIrregular verbs are on sale in the bargain basementTo unsubscribe DO NOT send a message to the list.Please click on this link and unsubscribe:100-plus/join

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> I have to start this week sometime but can't seem to be able to

>think that I can only have 1000 this first week and I just got the

>time of the month so I know that I will lose water weight this week.

I know what you mean. I think in my mind I will starve if I can

only have 1000 calories. I skipped that part and went right to the

card for my weight. It was still better than how I was eating off

plan, which included only one or two glasses of water a day, no

veggies, and plenty of fast food.

Kim

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> I know what you mean. I think in my mind I will starve if I can > only have 1000 calories.

Think? I *know* I will! Eating that little throws my blood sugar off balance, triggers my hypoglycemia, and then keeps it off-kilter until a few weeks of perfect eating gets it back on track.

I'm having that problem now (again) on McDougall's very low-fat, low calories. I may be "eating to fill" so I'm not hungry, but it's a lot of very low calorie foods, and some days it's barely breaking 1200 calories, way too low for someone my size (260), who, according to 's chart, should be eating about 2000 calories a day. I have a feeling I'm headed back to the FoodMover *very* soon.

Having those nice chicken breasts in my freezer is helping this decision along, too. :)

>than how I was eating off > plan, which included only one or two glasses of water a day

Oops, water. So far today I had only a few sips with my morning asthma pill, then spent 2 hours in the laundromat. I'm headed back out as soon as I can feel my toes again, headed to the grocery store for a few things, and when I get back I can start on my 130 ounces for the day.

>no veggies,

I *love* to eat veggies and can sit and eat whole big serving bowls full as a snack. Plain, too - no gravy or butter or even salt. That's my usual lunch, adding a cup or 2 of brown rice if I'm *really* hungry.

>and plenty of fast food.

This is one habit I found easy to break, only because of the cost! Just getting Henry's usual order is over $5 - a bit much for lunch for one person. And to think I used to get a quarter pounder with cheese, sometimes *also* a Big Mac, and always a super sized fries. PLEASE, don't anyone tell me how many exchanges or calories that meal is!!! That's all in the past now.

Sue in NJ

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From: " Sue in NJ " <susang@...>

> I'm having that problem now (again) on McDougall's very low-fat, low

calories. I may be " eating to fill " so I'm not hungry, but it's a lot of

very low calorie foods, and some days it's barely breaking 1200 calories,

way too low for someone my size (260), who, according to 's chart,

should be eating about 2000 calories a day.

So why not count calories? Use the McDougall stuff for bulk and fill in

with small quantities of chicken and cheese for those extra calories and

protein that your body needs.

Ann

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Kim,

So far this week I have lost 1 lb of the 4 lbs that I put on every month before the time of month thing. I am going to start next week tuesday since I have jury duty Monday and don't know what to pack or eat that day. I know that I can't drink the amount of water that I should that day as you are in a room all day waiting to see if you get called for jury duty.

Barbara

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> I have to start this week sometime but can't seem to be able to >think that I can only have 1000 this first week and I just got the >time of the month so I know that I will lose water weight this week.I know what you mean. I think in my mind I will starve if I can only have 1000 calories. I skipped that part and went right to the card for my weight. It was still better than how I was eating off plan, which included only one or two glasses of water a day, no veggies, and plenty of fast food.KimTo unsubscribe DO NOT send a message to the list.Please click on this link and unsubscribe:100-plus/join

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I heard that with the foodmover program you can have 12 the first week???? Is that true. I am on the 1400 calories now because of the weight I am now. I am not on program now just watching what I eat until after next Monday's jury duty since I know I can't drink the water like I should locked in a room all day!!!! LOL!!!!!

I also use Cooking Light recipes and 3 Fat Chicks on a Diet recipes as they are really tasty. I used them when I lost the 65 lbs and just sort of guessed at the exchanges used and I still lost weight.

Barbara

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> I know what you mean. I think in my mind I will starve if I can > only have 1000 calories.

Think? I *know* I will! Eating that little throws my blood sugar off balance, triggers my hypoglycemia, and then keeps it off-kilter until a few weeks of perfect eating gets it back on track.

I'm having that problem now (again) on McDougall's very low-fat, low calories. I may be "eating to fill" so I'm not hungry, but it's a lot of very low calorie foods, and some days it's barely breaking 1200 calories, way too low for someone my size (260), who, according to 's chart, should be eating about 2000 calories a day. I have a feeling I'm headed back to the FoodMover *very* soon.

Having those nice chicken breasts in my freezer is helping this decision along, too. :)

>than how I was eating off > plan, which included only one or two glasses of water a day

Oops, water. So far today I had only a few sips with my morning asthma pill, then spent 2 hours in the laundromat. I'm headed back out as soon as I can feel my toes again, headed to the grocery store for a few things, and when I get back I can start on my 130 ounces for the day.

>no veggies,

I *love* to eat veggies and can sit and eat whole big serving bowls full as a snack. Plain, too - no gravy or butter or even salt. That's my usual lunch, adding a cup or 2 of brown rice if I'm *really* hungry.

>and plenty of fast food.

This is one habit I found easy to break, only because of the cost! Just getting Henry's usual order is over $5 - a bit much for lunch for one person. And to think I used to get a quarter pounder with cheese, sometimes *also* a Big Mac, and always a super sized fries. PLEASE, don't anyone tell me how many exchanges or calories that meal is!!! That's all in the past now.

Sue in NJ

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>see if Walgreens carries the food mover. I'm sure for $10 it's probably

'just' the food mover and not any of the books.

The " books " are only slim booklets, the biggest one only 38 pages. They do

come with them, because they're the instructions.

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> 2000 for 250? Really? How much does an average person lose eating that much a day?

says that should be around 2 pounds loss a week on average. Of course some weeks you may lose more, others less or none at all. The body undergoes normal weight fluctuations so this is nothing to be worried about.

Sue in NJ

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>I heard that with the foodmover program you can have 12 the first week????

The first week is 1000 calories, and after that you switch to the calorie

amount based on current weight. If you're using 1400 calories, then your

weight is probably between 150 - 199 pounds now, right? ( I have such a bad

memory!)

Sue in NJ

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It is 183.5 and was down to 181.5 before the water weight gain for the time of the month thing. When I first started the deal a meal after many years of it in my closet I was 242 and 1/2 lbs and lost 65lbs and kept off 60 lbs for more than a year. I know how to maintain now have to lose the weight to get to 150 my goal weight.

Barbara

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>I heard that with the foodmover program you can have 12 the first week????The first week is 1000 calories, and after that you switch to the calorieamount based on current weight. If you're using 1400 calories, then yourweight is probably between 150 - 199 pounds now, right? ( I have such a badmemory!)Sue in NJ4 of 5 moderators prefer donuts. The 5th demands pizza.To unsubscribe DO NOT send a message to the list.Please click on this link and unsubscribe:100-plus/join

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Off the subject a little. Back when came out with his deal a meal there was a cookbook that had a recipe in it called (I think) it aint meat lasagna. Does anyone have that recipe?

~dd

-----Original Message-----From: Sue in NJ [mailto:susang@...]Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:08 AM100-plus Subject: Re: Food Mover & Deal a Meal> I'll be darned... he came out with another one after the blue one? I hadno idea!I got the colors mixed up. Brown was first, then blue. Sorry.To unsubscribe DO NOT send a message to the list.Please click on this link and unsubscribe:100-plus/join

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> Well, that would be cool to lose 2lbs a week on 2000cal/day.

Yeah, wouldn't it be beautiful if we all had nice metabolisms so what

*should* work in theory actually *did*? LOL

> I was so spoiled from my last DAM experience.

And you were much younger then, too, with a faster metabolism, busy running

after a few teens. It'll be an uphill battle, but eventually you *can* get

there.

> ...just waiting on my reality check to bounce.

Hey! You stole one of my taglines!

Sue in NJ

Like a tagline/Stolen for the very first time...

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> Sounds cool!! Do the recipes in the old DAM cookbooks still work with the

new diet?

Sure! Any any recipe with diabetic exchanges works, too.

> I don't have any (those went when the DAM went), but there's tons of them

on ebay.

I see them a lot in the used book store we used to go to, also.

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