Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Sue Recchia " <suer@...> > > Why do I do this? It almost sounds like clinical depression -- > but I'm not depressed! I just don't know.... How do you know you're not depressed? Have you talked to your doctor? I have several friends who are being treated for depression and their symptoms weren't what I would have thought of as depression. Talk it over with your doc. Meds can work wonders. You even said that you need an anti-depressant. Ok, if we're not depressed then we're just plain lazy! Some days I'm full of energy and some days I feel like I can't even get up. I really hate that feeling. The more active I try to be the more energy I have. It's just so darn hard to get moving when we feel wiped out. Is your house a total disaster? You might be surprised by the results if you sign up for flylady.com e-mail reminders. She'll tell you to get up and get dressed every single day. She'll also keep reminding you to take care of yourself. It's a declutter website but I like her philosophy for life in other areas too. I don't remember if you mentioned that you subscribe to her or not. I know some of us have mentioned it. Go back and read all your old e-mails to this list. That might help you regain your motivation too. A lot of people feel like you do in the winter of course and it eases up in the spring. You said you've been in a fog for 11 months now though at least health wise. Talk to your doc and keep talking to us. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 > Don't get me wrong, I'm a VERY " take charge " person -- to the rest > of the world... I just don't take care of ME! You would make an excellent mother. > and told me > to peddle 30 minutes a day and come in for physical therapy -- and > I just don't do it. Well, for *this* I would blame your busy life - all those hours of work, choir practice, taking care of the still-a-puppy, etc. When you do get some time off, all you want to do is collapse and hide under the blankets - a perfectly sane response. >And, of course, I don't manage to eat what's > good for me... Why do you even have not-good-for-you food in the house? If it's not there, you can't eat it, right? Next grocery day, start replacing the junk food with healthier snacks. > Why do I do this? It almost sounds like clinical depression -- > but I'm not depressed! I just don't know.... I would blame it on stress. All those years of working part time from home, training intensely for your marathons, and then WHAM - a full time job out of the house, complete with travel, a painful achille's tendon, never seeing your husband, no more marathons, not even an hour to yourself to just go for a leisurely walk. What little spare time you *do* have is spent in choir practice and competitions. You need time for yourself to do what you *like* to do and get your body moving again. Maybe you should commit yourself, even if it's just *to* yourself, to participate in a local charity race in, say, 6 months or so, and then train for it. That training includes going for PT and building that tendon back up, taking your dog with you for your daily walks (you'll have to start out slow, anyway), charting your progress again, setting your little goals - a little further each week, a little faster. Get your box of stars out and start marking your calendar again on those days you eat right, exercise, and get your water in, just like you did for *years* before you went out of the house to work. I remember how happy you were each time you shaved just a minute off your walk time. You need that joy back in your life, that goal. An aimless, goal-less life is not a happy one. I know right now, tax season, you probably can't do much about work, but you really should take some time for yourself every day for a walk, even if it's just 15 minutes after work with Ginger on a leash around the neighborhood. That includes those days you have off and don't feel like it. Just do it, act " as if " you want to do it, and eventually you *will* want to do it. Make a promise with yourself to try it just for a week and see how it works out. And get that junk food out of your house! Hopefully a week from now we'll get another message from you telling us how much better you feel, now that you're walking again. See you then! Sue in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Sue, What you describe sounds EXACTLY like clinical depression - - especially combined with you don't *feel* " depressed. " Please see you doctor for diagnosis and treatment. Personally, I just couldn't function / survive without my anti-depression meds. Marnie Fiamengo (in Wisconsin) * MarnieF_GAIA@... Start (01/01/2002): 310 lbs {approximately. scale didn't go high enough.} Current (01/27/2003): 288 lbs Short Term Goal (by 05/20/2003): < 250 lbs * Long Term Goal: 180 lbs {108 lbs to go} a bit lost.... That's how I feel sometimes -- a bit lost.... Don't get me wrong, I'm a VERY " take charge " person -- to the rest of the world... I just don't take care of ME! I have psoriasis on my hands which I can control with medication -- but I forget to use it and my hands crack and peel. My achilles tendons have been sore for over a YEAR and the doctor gave me medication and told me to peddle 30 minutes a day and come in for physical therapy -- and I just don't do it. If I'm not leaving the house, I'll stay in my pajamas all day -- I don't even manage to shower and brush my teeth every day... And, of course, I don't manage to eat what's good for me... Why do I do this? It almost sounds like clinical depression -- but I'm not depressed! I just don't know.... Sue To leave the list, send a blank email to: 100-plus-unsubscribe To contact the owners of this group, send an email to: 100-plus-owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Sue - I have to agree - the fly lady changed my life just 15 minutes at a time. I feel so much happier. At school we teach the kids to " unstick " their brain by giving themselves a self hug. I'm taking a class on brain based learning and they swear that hugging your self helps. I guess it's worth a try! Dodie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Sue Recchia " <suer@s...> > > > > Why do I do this? It almost sounds like clinical depression -- > > but I'm not depressed! I just don't know.... > > How do you know you're not depressed? Have you talked to your doctor? I > have several friends who are being treated for depression and their symptoms > weren't what I would have thought of as depression. Talk it over with your > doc. Meds can work wonders. You even said that you need an > anti-depressant. > > Ok, if we're not depressed then we're just plain lazy! Some days > I'm full of energy and some days I feel like I can't even get up. I really > hate that feeling. The more active I try to be the more energy I have. > It's just so darn hard to get moving when we feel wiped out. > > Is your house a total disaster? You might be surprised by the results if > you sign up for flylady.com e-mail reminders. She'll tell you to get up and > get dressed every single day. She'll also keep reminding you to take care > of yourself. It's a declutter website but I like her philosophy for life in > other areas too. I don't remember if you mentioned that you subscribe to > her or not. I know some of us have mentioned it. > > Go back and read all your old e-mails to this list. That might help you > regain your motivation too. > > A lot of people feel like you do in the winter of course and it eases up in > the spring. You said you've been in a fog for 11 months now though at least > health wise. Talk to your doc and keep talking to us. > > Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2003 Report Share Posted January 31, 2003 Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I have been on " no mail " at FlyLady for a long time. I actually unsubscribed and resubscribed last night so that I would get all the " newbie " stuff again (great minds think alike!). I never did see the doc today. My appt. was for 9:15 and when I got there, the waiting room was full! By 9:40, I went to the desk to ask when I was going to get in. She couldn't tell me... I asked if she could guarantee that I would get to see the doc by 10 -- and she said probably not, because there were still 2 ahead of me! So -- I said, " Let's make an appt that he can keep then, my time is valuable too! " So, I'm going a week from Tuesday at his first appt. I'm going to get there early so that I'm his FIRST first appt! In addition to FlyLady, I'm setting up a daily checklist in my Palm pilot with things like " shower " , " get fully dressed " , and " pick up 8 things " . I'm going to really try to work the FlyLady thing, using my Palm as my journal.... I think my #1 priority right now is just to take care of ME. Oh, and the reason I know I'm not depressed is because I've been depressed before and I know the difference. Also, my doc gave me some test a few months back and I passed (or failed to qualify). Finally, I actually tried a few months of Prozac last year and there was NO change in anything. BUT, the fact that I'm not depressed doesn't mean that an anti-depressant can't help me to feel better -- does that make any sense? Sue, you make a good point -- I don't have any really big " goals " right now. I'm just doing the daily grind. I'll spend some time thinking about it and see what it is I want to focus on. Also, I like anne's idea of a different plan each month! what a hoot! Well, that's enough for now. I'll try to get back online this weekend. I'm leaving Monday for Raleigh and will be back very late on Thursday. Friday, I have to work at the law office and then the chorus is in a show Friday night. Next Saturday, I'll have some time to really look at things.... I'll keep in touch.... Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 In a message dated 1/30/03 8:46:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, suer@... writes: If I'm not leaving the house, I'll stay in my pajamas all day -- Now you are talking about me! It's just so much "work" to get dressed and end up being in tight, binding clothes that make me itch, when I can stay in my gown that is comfortable. Of course if someone comes to the door I have to pretend I'm not home! Besides that, I only have one pair of jeans, they are just so expensive to buy more than one pair at a time it's not in my budget, and I don't dare put them in the dryer or they shrink up, so it takes a day and a half for them to dry. My mother suggested wearing housedresses, (in public) but the wind in Nevada is like having Texas style thunderstorms on a daily basis. Besides, the dresses are just not me. So Sue you are not the only one that loves her pj's! Shaw L. Goal for now is to get to where the scale can read my weight! Nevada JLambsr@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Today, I changed from my nightie into a housedress until I needed to leave the house. then, I put on a dress that I made -- it's so hard to find anything that fits and is pretty! I'm not going to spend anymore days in my PJ's! (and I need to lose 40 lbs before my jeans fit!) Sue -----Original Message-----From: jlambsr@... [mailto:jlambsr@...]I only have one pair of jeans, they are just so expensive to buy more than one pair at a time it's not in my budget, and I don't dare put them in the dryer or they shrink up, so it takes a day and a half for them to dry. My mother suggested wearing housedresses, (in public) but the wind in Nevada is like having Texas style thunderstorms on a daily basis. Besides, the dresses are just not me. So Sue you are not the only one that loves her pj's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 In a message dated 2/2/2003 5:41:40 PM Central Standard Time, suer@... writes: I'm not going to spend anymore days in my PJ's Good for you Sue! Attitude is what it is all about. Think positive....keep it up honey...keep it up! Take Care, 311/251/170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Sue... I know I came in the middle of the convo but I've suffered from Depression off and on for the last three years. Part of mine is hormonal. I started having PMS three years ago (my highs were extremely high and lows extremely low two weeks out of the month)and they finally put me on something that works. I tried a couple of different things and was just lethargic and put on alot of weight in a short time along with having memory issues. (I kid you not....one had me so bad I had trouble remembering my name.) Anyway, they put me on welbutrin and I've loved it. I cant even tell that I'mon it...feeling wise. I dont feel drugged or anything. I feel like I'm more even keeled. On top of that and please dont shoot me for saying this ...*wink* but it helps curb your appetite some. I know I do alot of stress eating and that is almost non exsistant now. Course the first thing my dr told me was it would perk up my drive in the bedroom. LOL I told him I didnt need to know that. I have a hard time with RX's because I have alot of reactions but this is good. You might talk to him about it. Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 -----Original Message-----From: karbchickadee@... [mailto:karbchickadee@...]Good for you Sue! Attitude is what it is all about. Think positive....keep it up honey...keep it up! Thanks ! Tomorrow will be the big test! I don't think I have to go anywhere.... Normally, that means PJ's for the day -- but I'm trying to do my FlyLady baby steps! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2003 Report Share Posted February 8, 2003 -----Original Message----- From: Jen <wldanglz69@...> [mailto:wldanglz69@...] Anyway, they put me on welbutrin and I've loved it. Thanks Jen! My appointment is Tuesday and I'll ask about that one. I finally got my TOM after almost a year (!), but don't feel ANY different.... Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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