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In a message dated 11/9/02 6:51:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,

careyjean74@... writes:

> " Woah, there's a sexy hunk of woman. "

Can I borrow him. Sounds like a gem of a man. My hubby loves me BUT hates

my weight. He says I was not that way when he married me.

NH

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> My husband drives me nuts. He bought me the gazelle and tapes for my

birthday. So he's supportive,

Mine usually lets me have whatever weight loss gimmicks I want, as long as

we can afford them. That accounts for my treadmill and exercise video

collection, as well as all the Deal A Meal card sets and FoodMovers.

> He thinks there's nothing wrong with my weight.

My guy does look at the young, thin ones, but that's it, a quick glance. He

has *always* said to me that I'm fine at whatever weight I am, and prefers

it when I'm now on a " diet " because I get cranky.

> yelled down the stairs " I brought donuts, come get some. "

He knows I don't do sweets, but will instead tempt me with my favorite

foods, like a sub sandwich or even plain old hot dogs.

>I know he doesn't " force " me to eat.

No, but does he give you those big-old puppy dog eyes if you say No?

>He is a little overweight (like 20 pounds) and no matter what he eats, he

stays within 10 pounds of his

Same as mine. Even in his drinking days, when he would polish off a 6-pack

of pints of Bud every night, as well as the munchies that went with it, he

would stay at 220 - the same weight he was since he graduated college in the

early 1970's. Now that he eats relatively healthy and hasn't had a drink in

over 25 years, he's *still* 220! At least *he* doesn't have a closet gull of

clothes in varying sies like most women. :)

Sue

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> He tells me that he is embarrassed to go in public with me. He tells me

my

> ass is as big as a barn door. He tells me that I make him sick!

One of this list's members went through something similar just last year. He

husband told her he wanted a divorce because she wasn't as thin as she was

when they married. Like having 3 kids didn't change *his*?!? He went as far

as moving out for a few weeks. Of course that was just one of a few

complaints he had, but he threw it in her face every chance he had, it

seems.

That member is still here but hasn't posted in a long time, so I don't know

what's been happening lately, but I do know she went through many attempts

to lose weight over the years, and each time what little weight she was able

to lose came right back on.

> He is always comparing his stopping drinking alcohol to me going on a

diet.

So does Overeaters Anonymous. The difficulty in stopping is that you can

love without alcohol and remove it from your life completely, but everyone

*must* eat to survive. It's actually harder to lose weight and keep it off

than it is to stop abusing alcohol and drugs.

> I know they are both hard. But Alcohol causes divorce and bad things

> well......he informed me that weight does too.

He's right. I'm sure many divorces occur because the man wants a thinner

wife to show off. It's become a cliche, a joke. Don't you know about " trophy

wives " , the young, thin blondes that older men divorce their older, plumper

wives to marry? It's been going on since the beginning of time.

And I'm sure as many health problems are caused by excess eating as excess

drinking, and car accidents, too. Both can impair your judgement and

distract a driver from the road, especially for those people who are

constantly snacking and trying to open a candy bar wrapper while driving

down a highway.

You, yourself, have been having chest pains that you refuse to go to your

doctor about, right? I'm sure they're related to your weight in a way, and

not " hormones " from that baby you had months ago. Chest pains are *not* part

of a normal post partum recovery. And may of you other medical complaints

can possible be related to your excess weight and bad eating habits, too.

You've got to clean up your act. Make those meal plans, drink that water!

Did you ever start that food journal to see in black and white exactly how

much you're eating? *You* are the only one who can control your eating. YOU

are responsible for YOU. When are you going to start taking care of

yourself?

Sue

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> He tells me that he is embarrassed to go in public with me. He tells me

my

> ass is as big as a barn door. He tells me that I make him sick!

> He is always comparing his stopping drinking alcohol to me going on a

diet.

I'm so sorry that your husband is abusive. Yep, that's what it is. Plain

and simple abuse. No one should have to live with someone who treats them

like that. Is there any way you can go to councelling?

Ann

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Actually,

I have not had *chest pains* in a long time. They were not actually chest

pains. They were more or less boob pains. I call my boobs " my chest " .

Actually I call everything above my breast bone my chest. So, if I have a

pain anywhere in that radiation, then I consider it my chest. There was

only two times I thought I was having heart trouble and that was when my

whole upper body hurt and it turned out to be my gallbladder. Then when

my arm went numb....which was more than likely do to a pinched off nerve. I

called my cousin and she said hers does the same thing. I picked up a cup

the other day and it sent a sharp twisting nerve pull up my wrist. I think

it had something to do with that. Anyway, my cousin told me that I could

relax, I was not having a heart attack. She told me I however needed some

anxiety medications.....because I was wired! LOL.

Your right though, I am in control of my body and I get more water than

anyone I know. I am doing something about my weight, slowly but surely.

And I will do everything I can to better myself to keep from having to go to

the Dr. They scare me and I cant help it. I have a cute new hair

style and I feel good about myself, if only hubby would feel good with me.

He dont even kiss me anymore. A peak here and there before one of us leaves

and that is it. I will send in a picture of what I look like at the

website sometime afterwhile. Taken just the other day.

I still have really bad back aches from the complicated c/section that I

went through, and I have really bad cramping. My boobs drip around certain

days of my cycle and my Dr. told me that I was still going through changes

since delivery. Having 2 miscarriages and then a baby is very hard on a

body.

Im doing better though. And, just since I am being so honest here, I went

out the other night with a gal friend and we had some very good wine coolers

and I felt good about myself. I guess weight can sometimes put you in the

glumps and depression mode.

Thanks----

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> > He tells me that he is embarrassed to go in public with me. He tells me

> my

> > ass is as big as a barn door. He tells me that I make him sick!

>

>

> One of this list's members went through something similar just last year.

He

> husband told her he wanted a divorce because she wasn't as thin as she was

> when they married. Like having 3 kids didn't change *his*?!? He went as

far

> as moving out for a few weeks. Of course that was just one of a few

> complaints he had, but he threw it in her face every chance he had, it

> seems.

>

> That member is still here but hasn't posted in a long time, so I don't

know

> what's been happening lately, but I do know she went through many attempts

> to lose weight over the years, and each time what little weight she was

able

> to lose came right back on.

>

>

> > He is always comparing his stopping drinking alcohol to me going on a

> diet.

>

> So does Overeaters Anonymous. The difficulty in stopping is that you can

> love without alcohol and remove it from your life completely, but everyone

> *must* eat to survive. It's actually harder to lose weight and keep it off

> than it is to stop abusing alcohol and drugs.

>

>

> > I know they are both hard. But Alcohol causes divorce and bad things

> > well......he informed me that weight does too.

>

> He's right. I'm sure many divorces occur because the man wants a thinner

> wife to show off. It's become a cliche, a joke. Don't you know about

" trophy

> wives " , the young, thin blondes that older men divorce their older,

plumper

> wives to marry? It's been going on since the beginning of time.

>

> And I'm sure as many health problems are caused by excess eating as excess

> drinking, and car accidents, too. Both can impair your judgement and

> distract a driver from the road, especially for those people who are

> constantly snacking and trying to open a candy bar wrapper while driving

> down a highway.

>

> You, yourself, have been having chest pains that you refuse to go to your

> doctor about, right? I'm sure they're related to your weight in a way, and

> not " hormones " from that baby you had months ago. Chest pains are *not*

part

> of a normal post partum recovery. And may of you other medical complaints

> can possible be related to your excess weight and bad eating habits, too.

>

> You've got to clean up your act. Make those meal plans, drink that water!

> Did you ever start that food journal to see in black and white exactly how

> much you're eating? *You* are the only one who can control your eating.

YOU

> are responsible for YOU. When are you going to start taking care of

> yourself?

>

>

> Sue

>

>

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>There was

> only two times I thought I was having heart trouble and that was when my

> whole upper body hurt and it turned out to be my gallbladder.

Did you actually go see a doctor, or are you self diagnosed? I remember you

kept saying you couldn't afford to see a doctor, and hated to go, anyway.

Then when

> my arm went numb....which was more than likely do to a pinched off nerve.

I

> called my cousin and she said hers does the same thing.

And my father has a frequent cough, just like my stepmom. Hers was

pneumonia, his is a relapse of his lung cancer. Only a doctor can diagnose

you, not your cousin.

> And I will do everything I can to better myself to keep from having to go

to

> the Dr. They scare me and I cant help it.

You need to go see a doctor!!! Stop being a baby and get yourself taken care

of!

I have a cute new hair

> style and I feel good about myself,

You could have spent the same amount of money getting an EKG.

> days of my cycle and my Dr. told me that I was still going through changes

> since delivery.

When did he say this? You keep telling us you haven't seen a doctor since

right after you delivered, *months* ago.

>and we had some very good wine coolers

> and I felt good about myself.

(sigh) I give up.

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I call the Dr. on the phone.

I ask them questions over phone--and they dont seem worried and none have

suggested a EKG. My cousin is an RN---and knows alot of what Dr. will tell

me. She is pretty good.

I did self diagnois myself with the gallbladder--I was right and it was

taken out in 1998.

linda

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> >There was

> > only two times I thought I was having heart trouble and that was when my

> > whole upper body hurt and it turned out to be my gallbladder.

>

> Did you actually go see a doctor, or are you self diagnosed? I remember

you

> kept saying you couldn't afford to see a doctor, and hated to go, anyway.

>

>

> Then when

> > my arm went numb....which was more than likely do to a pinched off

nerve.

> I

> > called my cousin and she said hers does the same thing.

>

> And my father has a frequent cough, just like my stepmom. Hers was

> pneumonia, his is a relapse of his lung cancer. Only a doctor can diagnose

> you, not your cousin.

>

>

>

> > And I will do everything I can to better myself to keep from having to

go

> to

> > the Dr. They scare me and I cant help it.

>

> You need to go see a doctor!!! Stop being a baby and get yourself taken

care

> of!

>

>

> I have a cute new hair

> > style and I feel good about myself,

>

> You could have spent the same amount of money getting an EKG.

>

>

>

> > days of my cycle and my Dr. told me that I was still going through

changes

> > since delivery.

>

> When did he say this? You keep telling us you haven't seen a doctor since

> right after you delivered, *months* ago.

>

>

> >and we had some very good wine coolers

> > and I felt good about myself.

>

> (sigh) I give up.

>

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Its not the same. You can live with out alcohol but you can't live with

out food. Both can can divorce. But then divorce can be caused by other

reasons too. And the flip side is true. Some times people stay together

in spite of everything.

I wish you the best.

Jelayne

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Im having a difficult time right now, so I am going to tell you how it

is right now. He tells me that he is embarrassed to go in public with

me. He tells me my ass is as big as a barn door. He tells me that I

make him sick! He is always comparing his stopping drinking alcohol to

me going on a diet. He equalizes the two and to me (stop drinking) is

not the same as dieting.

I know they are both hard. But Alcohol causes divorce and bad things

well......he informed me that weight does too.

Im very, very depressed right now.

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From: " carey anderson " <careyjean74@...>

> I was wondering something. What do your husbands say and think about your

weight? Do you think they help or hinder your weight loss efforts? Are

they supportive?

Hmmmm... Dh and I have been married for almost 10 years and we dated off

and on for almost 9 years before that. Yikes! We met in college in 1984.

He's seen me size 6 and size 26. I'm sure he would prefer to have a slim

wife but he never gives me a hard time about my weight. I think he's more

worried about my health than my weight. He totally pisses me off sometimes

(this afternoon!!!) about other things but he's a pretty good guy.

He's proud of me for losing 20 pounds but he's seen me do that many, many

times before so I think he is probably secretly skeptical. At least he

doesn't voice his doubts. :) He doesn't seem to intentionally sabotage but

he does sometimes suggest a bag of microwave popcorn or a trip to Cici's

pizza buffet or something else I need to avoid. He's a good guy and I'm

lucky and I need to appreciate him a little more I think. :) I think I'll

send him an e-card so he'll get it at his office in the morning.

I'm worried about weighing in tomorrow since we had a very rare date on Sat.

night and we went to Babin's for seafood. Appetizer was a sinful cheesy

concoction with lots of different seafood. It was soooooo good! Dinner was

a broiled mixed seafood grill platter. At least I didn't order a huge fried

platter. Dessert was a big piece of key lime pie. We spent way too much

money but 's been wanting to try that restaurant for a long time. It's

ok to do that occasionally but I'm afraid it will erase all my hard work for

the week. I'll report in tomorrow. At least I stopped when I felt full and

we brought home lots of leftovers.

Ann

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