How many of you have had Measles?

[Guest guest]

You really should not fear measles. Measles, mumps, rubella and chicken pox are

all BEGNIN childhood diseases. You get them once...you don't ever get them

again. Childhood diseases are essential for developing the immune system.

Getting childhood diseases, develops a life time immunity to them for the rest

of your life. You simply can not get them again. YOU WANT YOUR CHILD TO GET

THEM if and when possible. Later in life and into adulthood, these diseases

will put him in the hospital or will be simply a fatal. If your neighbor kids

get them....get your son over there. Don't let the modern medical community

deceive you into building unnecessary fear of childhood diseases.

There is no such thing as immunity after vaccination. There is everything

deceitful in such a claim. Good honest medical practice never requires

deceitful words. History is replete with immunity from naturally acquiring

these begnin childhood diseases.

--------Kimberley Medlin-------------

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Are you aware that aborted fetal tissue is used in the development and

manufacture of vaccines? Read more about this and other startling facts about

vaccines at http://www.cogforlife.org and http://www.vaccinetruth.org

Here's a list of vaccine ingredients (chick embryo, formaldehyde, aluminum

hydroxide, mercury, aborted fetus tissue, gelatin-boiled pig skin, monkey kidney

tissue, boiled cow skin, coagulated horse blood...etc) from Centers for Disease

Control http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pink/Appendices/A/Excipient.pdf

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How many of you have had Measles?

Hi Everyone

I just wondered how many of you have had measles? What was your

experience with it? I had it when I was around 13 years old and

although I remember feeling really poorly and kind of lost a day or

two somewhere in the middle, I came out the other completely

unscathed.

Our son had Infantile Spasms (rare infant epilepsy) when he was

5.5months old, which we think was triggered by the DTP but the doc's

think it was caused by Tuberous Sclerosis (so far all tests have come

back negative for this) Obviously to give him any more vaccinations

would be asking for trouble, but I'm still worrying so much about him

catching measles and becoming very ill and possibly being affected

for the rest of his life.

Thank you all so much for help.

-x-

[Guest guest]

Lisee,

My sister always asked my Mother - " Mommy in olden times did . . . "

So now I guess I can say back in olden times when kids were allowed

to be kids and were allowed to get kid diseases I had what was

referred to as German Measles, Red Measles and 3 Day Measles

(twice). All happened when I was in grade school. I think the

first round was in first grade, then another probably third or

fourth grade and the 3 Day was once in fifth and the other in sixth

grade.

I don't know whether it was the German or the Red that I had in

first grade, but the health department came and put a guarantine

sign on the door and I had them first, then my sister and then my

brother and I think he was around a year old at the time. We had to

stay in a darkened room. The only one who probably faired badly was

my Mother.

Kids all got all the measles, chicken pox and mumps. I was always

the least ill, my sister was always the sickest and my brother was

usually somewhere in-between. I don't remember anyone that I went

to school with who was ever debilitated with " catching " these

diseases. We were out of school a week except for the 3 Day Measles

and just out 2 days. For the most part it just interferred with

doing fun stuff.

Jackie Noel

www.sagaciousairedales.com

www.sagaciousdogcountry.com

[Guest guest]

I had measles when I was about 8 I think, no big deal, I grew up in sweden,

and most of us got what we called the childhood diseases, chickenpox,

measles etc. It was actually better if you got them as a child, because

most of them you can only get once.

Petra

How many of you have had Measles?

> Hi Everyone

>

> I just wondered how many of you have had measles? What was your

> experience with it? I had it when I was around 13 years old and

> although I remember feeling really poorly and kind of lost a day or

> two somewhere in the middle, I came out the other completely

> unscathed.

>

> Our son had Infantile Spasms (rare infant epilepsy) when he was

> 5.5months old, which we think was triggered by the DTP but the doc's

> think it was caused by Tuberous Sclerosis (so far all tests have come

> back negative for this) Obviously to give him any more vaccinations

> would be asking for trouble, but I'm still worrying so much about him

> catching measles and becoming very ill and possibly being affected

> for the rest of his life.

>

> Thank you all so much for help.

>

>

> -x-

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had the measles at some point - I remember staying home from school and

staying in my moms bed because the room could be darkened more because my

eyes hurt. But that's it. No horror stories. My mom says she was sick

for quite a few months after but doesn't know why or what about it.

I knew of NO one who had complications growing up - my dad had 9 brothers

and sisters and all with oodles of kids and all got measles and no one had

complication. Knew of no one in school who had problems. no one we knew

had problems.

I saw no complicatoins when I worked as an assistant in a peds office in

high school. Saw no problems in nursing school or peds in early 70's. By

then measles vax was out. But it really was NOT a big deal.

And my mom confirms that as a nurse, graduating in 1948 and she thinks

vaccinating for it is ludicrous even though she evidently was quite ill

Sheri

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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******

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Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

>

>You really should not fear measles. Measles, mumps, rubella and chicken

pox are all BEGNIN childhood diseases. You get them once...you don't ever

get them again. Childhood diseases are essential for developing the immune

system. Getting childhood diseases, develops a life time immunity to them

for the rest of your life. You simply can not get them again. YOU WANT

YOUR CHILD TO GET THEM if and when possible. Later in life and into

adulthood, these diseases will put him in the hospital or will be simply a

fatal. If your neighbor kids get them....get your son over there. Don't

let the modern medical community deceive you into building unnecessary fear

of childhood diseases.

>There is no such thing as immunity after vaccination. There is everything

deceitful in such a claim. Good honest medical practice never requires

deceitful words. History is replete with immunity from naturally acquiring

these begnin childhood diseases.

>

>

Kim,

Basically you are right. In most cases they are benign. And yes it seems

they serve a purpose to help develop the immune system and also get rid of

stuff we are carrying around that we inherited (homoeopathic & Chinese

Medicine perspective)

But children have been harmed - but it is rare in the US or UK. But

realism is important too.

With homeopathy and Vitamin A and Vitamin C you have much help too.

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to say WELL SAID! Thank you for posting this!! Even here, I

see so many who are AFRAID of little colds, the chicken pox, flu, etc. It

has long been my belief that illness is necessary and HELPFUL! It is part of

life's cycle. Can I restate the caps below: YOU WANT YOUR CHILDREN TO GET

THEM (childhood illnesses)!

One of my favorite articles you ever posted was called something like " Why

children die from chicken pox " . I thought it made this point very clearly.

And also argues for not trying to reduce fevers. (Interfering with the

immune system often makes things much worse.) When our docs first suggested

we NOT treat our baby's fevers, we thought they were NUTS! But soon, we

realized why and you know what. We don't now. (well, in very rare cases, I

will treat lightly to help them rest at night) But now my kids are SOOO

strong! People are always amazed that they are never sick. Sickness is very

much in what you perceive. Little colds and things to me are not sickness,

but part of the cycle of life and all it's intricate processes.

Thanks Sheri!

Jami Fawley

pink-think@...

Re: How many of you have had Measles?

> >

> >You really should not fear measles. Measles, mumps, rubella and chicken

> pox are all BEGNIN childhood diseases. You get them once...you don't ever

> get them again. Childhood diseases are essential for developing the

immune

> system. Getting childhood diseases, develops a life time immunity to them

> for the rest of your life. You simply can not get them again. YOU WANT

> YOUR CHILD TO GET THEM if and when possible. Later in life and into

> adulthood, these diseases will put him in the hospital or will be simply a

> fatal. If your neighbor kids get them....get your son over there. Don't

> let the modern medical community deceive you into building unnecessary

fear

> of childhood diseases.

> >There is no such thing as immunity after vaccination. There is

everything

> deceitful in such a claim. Good honest medical practice never requires

> deceitful words. History is replete with immunity from naturally

acquiring

> these begnin childhood diseases.

> >

> >

>

> Kim,

> Basically you are right. In most cases they are benign. And yes it seems

> they serve a purpose to help develop the immune system and also get rid of

> stuff we are carrying around that we inherited (homoeopathic & Chinese

> Medicine perspective)

> But children have been harmed - but it is rare in the US or UK. But

> realism is important too.

> With homeopathy and Vitamin A and Vitamin C you have much help too.

> Sheri

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

>

> ******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

sorry, it was Kim who wrote the top portion. And yes, Sheri, I agree with

your point too. There are no guarantees. People can get serious illnesses,

but how it is handled may be the key. And how strong you are

(immunity-wise). Nutrition is so important!

Jami Fawley

pink-think@...

Re: How many of you have had Measles?

>

>

> > >

> > >You really should not fear measles. Measles, mumps, rubella and

chicken

> > pox are all BEGNIN childhood diseases. You get them once...you don't

ever

> > get them again. Childhood diseases are essential for developing the

> immune

> > system. Getting childhood diseases, develops a life time immunity to

them

> > for the rest of your life. You simply can not get them again. YOU WANT

> > YOUR CHILD TO GET THEM if and when possible. Later in life and into

> > adulthood, these diseases will put him in the hospital or will be simply

a

> > fatal. If your neighbor kids get them....get your son over there.

Don't

> > let the modern medical community deceive you into building unnecessary

> fear

> > of childhood diseases.

> > >There is no such thing as immunity after vaccination. There is

> everything

> > deceitful in such a claim. Good honest medical practice never requires

> > deceitful words. History is replete with immunity from naturally

> acquiring

> > these begnin childhood diseases.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Kim,

> > Basically you are right. In most cases they are benign. And yes it

seems

> > they serve a purpose to help develop the immune system and also get rid

of

> > stuff we are carrying around that we inherited (homoeopathic & Chinese

> > Medicine perspective)

> > But children have been harmed - but it is rare in the US or UK. But

> > realism is important too.

> > With homeopathy and Vitamin A and Vitamin C you have much help too.

> > Sheri

> > --------------------------------------------------------

> > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> > vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> > Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> > Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> > Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> > ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> > OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

> >

> > ******

> > " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

> > Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

> > knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

> information

> > and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

At 10:27 AM 01/30/2004 -0600, you wrote:

>I just wanted to say WELL SAID! Thank you for posting this!! Even here, I

>see so many who are AFRAID of little colds, the chicken pox, flu, etc. It

>has long been my belief that illness is necessary and HELPFUL! It is part of

>life's cycle. Can I restate the caps below: YOU WANT YOUR CHILDREN TO GET

>THEM (childhood illnesses)!

>

>One of my favorite articles you ever posted was called something like " Why

>children die from chicken pox " . I thought it made this point very clearly.

>And also argues for not trying to reduce fevers. (Interfering with the

>immune system often makes things much worse.) When our docs first suggested

>we NOT treat our baby's fevers, we thought they were NUTS! But soon, we

>realized why and you know what. We don't now. (well, in very rare cases, I

>will treat lightly to help them rest at night) But now my kids are SOOO

>strong! People are always amazed that they are never sick. Sickness is very

>much in what you perceive. Little colds and things to me are not sickness,

>but part of the cycle of life and all it's intricate processes.

>

>Thanks Sheri!

>

>Jami Fawley

that's great Jami - thanks for sharing that.

It also really helps new people who are here and quiet as a mouse!

Please share your stories so they can see an example unvaccinated and

healthy, etc.

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

I had measles at around 4. I remember being in bed with a fever for a few

days, and my mum kept me in a darkened bedroom for the best part of a

fortnight because the light hurt my eyes. I remember having a cold with it

too. But I was right as rain in no time. My husband had measles, all my

friends had measles, and neither of us has ever known anyone who wasn't fine

with it. I *have* known of two children fairly locally who died shortly

after the vax.

I think measles is *vital* to the development of our children's immune

systems. If anything, I am a little concerned that my daughter may *not*

get it. A short while ago she was poorly with a fever and a rash, and her

homoeopath and I were almost *praying* it would be measles...but it wasn't!

Sounds dreadful, but I feel so strongly that these things are absolutely

necessary to the correct stimulation and maturation of the immune system.

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a

fool forever. " ~ Chinese proverb

§ How many of you have had Measles?

§

§

§ Hi Everyone

§

§ I just wondered how many of you have had measles? What was your

§ experience with it? I had it when I was around 13 years old and

§ although I remember feeling really poorly and kind of lost a day or

§ two somewhere in the middle, I came out the other completely

§ unscathed.

§

§ Our son had Infantile Spasms (rare infant epilepsy) when he was

§ 5.5months old, which we think was triggered by the DTP but the doc's

§ think it was caused by Tuberous Sclerosis (so far all tests have come

§ back negative for this) Obviously to give him any more vaccinations

§ would be asking for trouble, but I'm still worrying so much about him

§ catching measles and becoming very ill and possibly being affected

§ for the rest of his life.

§

§ Thank you all so much for help.

§

§

§ -x-

§

§

§

§

§

§

[Guest guest]

Doesn't sound so bad Sue! I know I had a measles vaccine. My Mom was

hurry up, as soon as something came out. I was born in 1957, so I

shouldn't have had it, but she made a point of it. I remember getting

it around 7 or 8 years old. Didn't take long to get sick. One of the

sickest I've ever remembered being. Felt like a cinder block was on

my head, then I went into a tunnel. It hit fast, my Mom and my sister

put me in bed, pulled all the curtains, and there I remained. I was

so sick, I don't remember much after that, but I know I was covered

in spots. I'm sure this is what I had below.

1: Am J Med Sci. 1981 Jan-Feb;281(1):51-5. Related Articles, Links

Atypical measles syndrome: unusual hepatic, pulmonary, and

immunologic aspects.

Frey HM, Krugman S.

The atypical measles syndrome is a relatively new disease that was

first recognized 15 years ago. Initially, it occurred in children who

were exposed to wild measles virus several years after they were

immunized with killed measles vaccine. It was characterized by a two-

to three-day prodrome of high fever, cough, headache, and myalgia

followed by a rash that resembled Rocky Mountain spotted fever,

scarlet fever, or varicella and associated with roentgenographic

evidence of pneumonia with or without pleural effusion. This report

highlights three unusual manifestations of this syndrome: 1)

transient hepatitis, 2) persistence of pulmonary lesions for several

years, and 3) occurrence of excessively high measles hemagglutination-

inhibition antibody titers. Today, this syndrome occurs predominantly

in adolescents and young adults.

Publication Types:

Case Reports

PMID: 7468641 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

> I had measles at around 4. I remember being in bed with a fever

for a few

> days, and my mum kept me in a darkened bedroom for the best part of

a

> fortnight because the light hurt my eyes. I remember having a cold

with it

> too. But I was right as rain in no time. My husband had measles,

all my

> friends had measles, and neither of us has ever known anyone who

wasn't fine

> with it. I *have* known of two children fairly locally who died

shortly

> after the vax.

>

> I think measles is *vital* to the development of our children's

immune

> systems. If anything, I am a little concerned that my daughter may

*not*

> get it. A short while ago she was poorly with a fever and a rash,

and her

> homoeopath and I were almost *praying* it would be measles...but it

wasn't!

> Sounds dreadful, but I feel so strongly that these things are

absolutely

> necessary to the correct stimulation and maturation of the immune

system.

>

> Love, light and peace,

>

> Sue

>

> " He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask

remains a

> fool forever. " ~ Chinese proverb