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Hi . I also have a 4 month old baby (born September 15) and

people always comment on how alert and happy she is too. She is

*always* happy, always smiling. She also has not been vaxed and never

will be. I also have a 3 year old daughter who is unvaxed. When she

was born the pediatrician tried scaring me into vaxing her. I refused

any vaxes. He refused to sign her birth certificate which still

really irritates me. I was alone at the time he came in and talked to

me. I called my dh at home in tears and told him if they came in to

my room and talked vaxes again and he was there that he needed to

stand behind me 100%. I am so glad my dh wasn't in the room or after

hearing what that doctor said, my dh wouldn't have " made " me vax our

children. My dh believes in vaxes, I don't *at all*. Actually, to be

honest, after hearing what the ped said to me in the hospital, I

thought for a *split* second maybe I was doing something wrong by

*not* vaxing my daughter. Had I not had the research I had, I

probably would've given in. I can imagine how a new mom with no info

feels and can easily see how they get pressured into vaxing their

children. I know there are others on this list that have spouses

that feel the opposite way about vaxes. I have told my dh to do the

research as I have and then we will discuss vaxing our children. He

won't do the research and part of the reason I'm sure is because he

knows there is absolutely, positively *no* way I'm vaxing our

children. I keep telling him it wouldn't even be done over my dead

body! LOL! He knows there is no compromise on it. I also deal with

the doctors if we need them (which we haven't) and I will deal with

the schools when it comes time to do that (next year). I'm praying

that I don't have to go through what my parents did to get me in

school (I'm also unvaxed).

Good luck, you will find a lot of info on this board and glad you

have joined. I know I'm really glad I joined too!

unvaxed mommy to Jaeden and Kendra (both also unvaxed)

> I am so glad someone told me about this group!!

>

> I have a 4 month old son that everyone says is so alert!! They

just

> can't believe it. Could it be the fact that he has not had one

> vaccine? I think so.

>

> I am a patient at Dr. Tenpenny's practice Osteomed II (not for

> vaccine related issues). I am very fortunate to live in North East

> Ohio where she calls home.

>

> My peds doc wants to vax for Hib. I don't want to and my DH thinks

> we should - based on what the ped told him. I told DH he has to

read

> and research and then make a decision. He did decide if DS has

> reaction of any type we would not go forward. I don't even want to

> take it that far.

>

> I am a SAHM with no other children. My DS risks are lowered

because

> of this.

>

> Has anyone had a reaction to Hib? If so, did you increase vit c

and

> a prior to vax?

>

> What to do?

>

>

>

> My ped is very supportive of our decisions not to vax, however, he

> feels this is one we should get. Which I guess doesn't make sense,

> but I changed docs because I was feeling guilty for my decisions

and

> this doc is much better.

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At 09:06 PM 01/16/2004 -0000, you wrote:

>I am so glad someone told me about this group!!

>

>I have a 4 month old son that everyone says is so alert!! They just

>can't believe it. Could it be the fact that he has not had one

>vaccine? I think so.

>

>I am a patient at Dr. Tenpenny's practice Osteomed II (not for

>vaccine related issues). I am very fortunate to live in North East

>Ohio where she calls home.

>

>My peds doc wants to vax for Hib. I don't want to and my DH thinks

>we should - based on what the ped told him. I told DH he has to read

>and research and then make a decision. He did decide if DS has

>reaction of any type we would not go forward. I don't even want to

>take it that far.

>

>I am a SAHM with no other children. My DS risks are lowered because

>of this.

>

>Has anyone had a reaction to Hib? If so, did you increase vit c and

>a prior to vax?

>

>What to do?

>

>

>

>My ped is very supportive of our decisions not to vax, however, he

>feels this is one we should get. Which I guess doesn't make sense,

>but I changed docs because I was feeling guilty for my decisions and

>this doc is much better.

>

Oh listen to your instincts!!!!!!!!!!!! All vaccines have the potential

for dangers

Is your baby in day care

Is your baby breastfed?

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

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Hey Sherri! I certainly don't think your nuts! :)I totally agree

with everything you said. Actually, I was going to put in my post

that I would leave my husband before I vax my kids!! LOL! I would

too! I know that sounds really, really bad but I could always find a

new husband - not that I want to, but yes, my children come first -

in *everything*. My husband and I don't fight over this ~ he'll roll

his eyes at me when I say something about it, but he usually keeps

his mouth shut! (Smart man, huh - I say that because he knows he

*will not* win on this and we would fight all day about if he starts

talking about the " pros " of vaxes!) I do have the support of my

parents and brothers though who are also very anti vax. The emails I

get from this list every day too also remind me that I *am* doing

what is best for my girls.

I am in Iowa, religious exempt only. My parents had a difficult time

getting me in and my brothers into school. That was around 25 years

ago too and I'm sure it's even more difficult now. I'm praying

though that I can just go in and sign the religious exempt form and

it will be left at that.

unvaxed mommy to Jaeden and Kendra (both also unvaxed)

> >Hi . I also have a 4 month old baby (born September 15) and

> >people always comment on how alert and happy she is too. She is

> >*always* happy, always smiling. She also has not been vaxed and

never

> >will be. I also have a 3 year old daughter who is unvaxed. When

she

> >was born the pediatrician tried scaring me into vaxing her. I

refused

> >any vaxes. He refused to sign her birth certificate which still

> >really irritates me.

>

> What the * & ^ & $%^. I cannot say what I am thinking right now on

this

> list.............these nazi doctors INFURIATE me.

> The gaul.

>

> I was alone at the time he came in and talked to

> >me. I called my dh at home in tears and told him if they came in

to

> >my room and talked vaxes again and he was there that he needed to

> >stand behind me 100%. I am so glad my dh wasn't in the room or

after

> >hearing what that doctor said, my dh wouldn't have " made " me vax

our

> >children. My dh believes in vaxes, I don't *at all*. Actually, to

be

> >honest, after hearing what the ped said to me in the hospital, I

> >thought for a *split* second maybe I was doing something wrong by

> >*not* vaxing my daughter.

>

> in the hospital its the digusting hep b - how on earth have they

been

> brainwashed into thinking this is worth doing at 12 hours and

harrassing you.

>

> Had I not had the research I had, I

> >probably would've given in. I can imagine how a new mom with no

info

> >feels and can easily see how they get pressured into vaxing their

> >children. I know there are others on this list that have spouses

> >that feel the opposite way about vaxes. I have told my dh to do

the

> >research as I have and then we will discuss vaxing our children.

He

> >won't do the research and part of the reason I'm sure is because

he

> >knows there is absolutely, positively *no* way I'm vaxing our

> >children. I keep telling him it wouldn't even be done over my dead

> >body! LOL!

>

> Good for you.

> You women have got to stand up to these men - and you are.

> But everyday I hear these stories and I know it is terrible BUT DO

WHAT you

> have to do to make them listen.

> Threaten to leave if you have to - I know it sounds terrible and

scary but

> your children come first in this issue.

> I don't mean to sound like I'm coming down hard, but this is

terrifying

> what I'm hearing. You are EQUAL to your husbands. you are NOT

THEIR

> CHILDREN. Stop giving sex if you have to ;-) There is a book -

something

> like Women who stopped having sex with their men to take the war

out of

> them - for the life of me I can't remember now. And there is a

play about

> the same thing.

>

> You must think I'm nuts here. But this all just infuriates me.

PATRIARCHY

> SUCKS and it is alive and well (or should I say Alive and sick)

>

> >He knows there is no compromise on it.

>

> GOOD

>

> I also deal with

> >the doctors if we need them (which we haven't) and I will deal

with

> >the schools when it comes time to do that (next year). I'm praying

> >that I don't have to go through what my parents did to get me in

> >school (I'm also unvaxed).

>

> What state are you in?

>

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> vaccineinfo@t... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

> DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

>

> ******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside

down.

> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities

destroy

> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

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>I have a 4 month old son that everyone says is so alert!! They just

can't believe it. Could it be the fact that he has not had one

vaccine? I think so.<

Absolutely! Good for you.

>I am a patient at Dr. Tenpenny's practice Osteomed II <

I love Dr. Sherri. Her video Vaccinations: What CDC... is powerful and she is

so sweet too. I envy you being her patient.

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