Re: Menthol Crystal non-toxic when used correctly

[Guest guest]

Hi Tim,

This is good news since my menthol crystals aren't going to waste.

I definitely see menthol as a deterrent from experience but is there

proof that menthol kills these mites in a closed environment? If

so, I'm going to replace all the moth balls I have in my sealed bags

of clothes with menthol crystals. It appears moth balls don't kill

anyway. I wish there were studies where someone applied menthol

fumes to mites while being viewed under a microscope and see if they

die so we'd know for sure... not just menthol but all the things

we've been trying. Alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, Windex, sulfur,

Cedarcide, moth ball fumes, Arrid, bifenthrin, beta-cyfluthrin,

residual effects of IGR, etc.

Are there any information on this forum regarding what we know for

sure that works as a miticide?

Thanks.

kihun

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> There seems to be some concern that menthol crystals are hazardous

to

> humans. As per the MSDS sheet, it is not for ingestion. In the

> environment, such as using in sealed bags instead of mothballs, it

is

> quite effective as a miticide.

>

> In a non-sealed environment, they are only a mite repellent, as the

> mites can quickly move from any noxious stimuli. They are

recommended

> because of their properties to repel or kill mites. The active

> ingredient is Mentha (essential oil) and if properly used, should

be

> fine to use.

>

> For those who seek only non-toxic solutions for mites, that is

very hard

> to do, and for the most part is unrealistic. Even the active

ingredients

> in Dawn dish soap would be detrimental if ingested at any

significant

> amount.

>

> Thanks for the feedback on menthol crystals.

>

> Tim

>

[Guest guest]

I remember some articles on Varroa mites and bees and the use and effects of menthol crystals. They found it killed the mites without killing the bees? I beleive at the time I was looking for menthol crystals and found bulk on a beekeeping site and then it went from there. Frito

Re: Menthol Crystal non-toxic when used correctly

Hi Tim,This is good news since my menthol crystals aren't going to waste.I definitely see menthol as a deterrent from experience but is there proof that menthol kills these mites in a closed environment? If so, I'm going to replace all the moth balls I have in my sealed bags of clothes with menthol crystals. It appears moth balls don't kill anyway. I wish there were studies where someone applied menthol fumes to mites while being viewed under a microscope and see if they die so we'd know for sure... not just menthol but all the things we've been trying. Alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, Windex, sulfur, Cedarcide, moth ball fumes, Arrid, bifenthrin, beta-cyfluthrin, residual effects of IGR, etc.Are there any information on this forum regarding what we know for sure that works as a miticide?Thanks.kihun>> > Hi All,> > There seems to be some concern that menthol crystals are hazardous to> humans. As per the MSDS sheet, it is not for ingestion. In the> environment, such as using in sealed bags instead of mothballs, it is> quite effective as a miticide.> > In a non-sealed environment, they are only a mite repellent, as the> mites can quickly move from any noxious stimuli. They are recommended> because of their properties to repel or kill mites. The active> ingredient is Mentha (essential oil) and if properly used, should be> fine to use.> > For those who seek only non-toxic solutions for mites, that is very hard> to do, and for the most part is unrealistic. Even the active

ingredients> in Dawn dish soap would be detrimental if ingested at any significant> amount.> > Thanks for the feedback on menthol crystals.> > Tim>

[Guest guest]

Hi K,

Menthol crystals would not be considered a 'miticide' in the same sense that cyflurthin, esfenvalerate, et al would be. These miticides kill on contact but are also harder on the human environment. That is not a big deal for some of us, but some have pets and children and are more conscious of using safer products.

Menthol crystals and moth balls can be effective, but only in an enclosed environment over a period of time. I have had great success with mothballs, and am surprised others are not. I get 16oz milk bottles, poke multiple holes in them and put about 6 oz of mothballs in each container. I place at least 2-3 of these in a bag with contaiminated clothing, sheets, et al.

I have had good success keeping menthol crystals in a sock under bedding, to keep the mites away at night. Menthol is not toxic when it evaporates at such a low rate, and so I do take issue with those who state that menthol is 'toxic' as posted here.

Everything is trial and error with bird mites, as they quickly become tolerant to most things thrown at them. So you just have to try and see what works for you. We all may not be dealing with the same mite, the same environmental issues, etc.

Good luck here,

Tim

> >> > > > Hi All,> > > > There seems to be some concern that menthol crystals are hazardous > to> > humans. As per the MSDS sheet, it is not for ingestion. In the> > environment, such as using in sealed bags instead of mothballs, it > is> > quite effective as a miticide.> > > > In a non-sealed environment, they are only a mite repellent, as the> > mites can quickly move from any noxious stimuli. They are > recommended> > because of their properties to repel or kill mites. The active> > ingredient is Mentha (essential oil) and if properly used, should > be> > fine to use.> > > > For those who seek only non-toxic solutions for mites, that is > very hard> > to do, and for the most part is unrealistic. Even the active > ingredients> > in Dawn dish soap would be detrimental if ingested at any > significant> > amount.> > > > Thanks for the feedback on menthol crystals.> > > > Tim> >>

[Guest guest]

We have diffused menthol in our cars and had good luck with getting

rid of mites.

Interesting enough, on the finding1cure group, they say menthol

is good for clearing the environment for Morgellons suffers as well.

Jo the Mod on finding1cure said that if you made up a little bag

of menthol crystals and put them in your pocket that bugs would not

touch you. I have not tried this myself.

> >

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > There seems to be some concern that menthol crystals are hazardous

> to

> > humans. As per the MSDS sheet, it is not for ingestion. In the

> > environment, such as using in sealed bags instead of mothballs, it

> is

> > quite effective as a miticide.

> >

> > In a non-sealed environment, they are only a mite repellent, as the

> > mites can quickly move from any noxious stimuli. They are

> recommended

> > because of their properties to repel or kill mites. The active

> > ingredient is Mentha (essential oil) and if properly used, should

> be

> > fine to use.

> >

> > For those who seek only non-toxic solutions for mites, that is

> very hard

> > to do, and for the most part is unrealistic. Even the active

> ingredients

> > in Dawn dish soap would be detrimental if ingested at any

> significant

> > amount.

> >

> > Thanks for the feedback on menthol crystals.

> >

> > Tim

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Kihun,

Doyourownpestcontrol.com told me to go the allergy product sites.

They sell miticides (mostly for dust mites) and mite repellant

products. Will they work on these...who knows! Here's a link with a

few products for you to look at. You may need to cut and paste it

into your browser.

http://www.natlallergy.com/info.asp?ii=2 & sid= & eid= & bhcd2=1223259925

Bob

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi All,

> > >

> > > There seems to be some concern that menthol crystals are

hazardous

> > to

> > > humans. As per the MSDS sheet, it is not for ingestion. In the

> > > environment, such as using in sealed bags instead of mothballs,

it

> > is

> > > quite effective as a miticide.

> > >

> > > In a non-sealed environment, they are only a mite repellent, as

the

> > > mites can quickly move from any noxious stimuli. They are

> > recommended

> > > because of their properties to repel or kill mites. The active

> > > ingredient is Mentha (essential oil) and if properly used,

should

> > be

> > > fine to use.

> > >

> > > For those who seek only non-toxic solutions for mites, that is

> > very hard

> > > to do, and for the most part is unrealistic. Even the active

> > ingredients

> > > in Dawn dish soap would be detrimental if ingested at any

> > significant

> > > amount.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the feedback on menthol crystals.

> > >

> > > Tim

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I believe Ms. Penny also does that? She also has a little button of something she pins to her shirt to repel but I can't remember what it is. Menthol is very effective. It can also be found in Tiger Balm?

Re: Menthol Crystal non-toxic when used correctly

We have diffused menthol in our cars and had good luck with gettingrid of mites.Interesting enough, on the finding1cure group, they say mentholis good for clearing the environment for Morgellons suffers as well.Jo the Mod on finding1cure said that if you made up a little bagof menthol crystals and put them in your pocket that bugs would nottouch you. I have not tried this myself.> >> > > > Hi All,> > > > There seems to be some concern that menthol crystals are hazardous > to> > humans. As per the MSDS sheet, it is not for ingestion. In the> > environment, such as using in sealed bags instead of mothballs, it > is> > quite effective as a miticide.> > > > In a non-sealed environment, they are

only a mite repellent, as the> > mites can quickly move from any noxious stimuli. They are > recommended> > because of their properties to repel or kill mites. The active> > ingredient is Mentha (essential oil) and if properly used, should > be> > fine to use.> > > > For those who seek only non-toxic solutions for mites, that is > very hard> > to do, and for the most part is unrealistic. Even the active > ingredients> > in Dawn dish soap would be detrimental if ingested at any > significant> > amount.> > > > Thanks for the feedback on menthol crystals.> > > > Tim> >>