Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 Hi everyone, Wow, whoever recommended the book " The Virus Within " by Regush, Thanks! I can hardly put it down. I can't believe that the general public is told that AIDS is caused by HIV, when there is so much evidence that it probably isn't, or its only a co-factor. We all need to be tested for HHV-6. Its from the herpes family (6th herpes viruses identified) and it could be deadly. There are two strains, one isn't has lethal as the other. I'm only half way through the book, but there is so much information in it, and easy reading that I'm going to be finished maybe tonight. I highly recommend it to everyone! It was a little expensive, but well worth it. I found a great site that gives you rebates and discounts if you order through them or their affiliates, its great. So I got the book for about $20 but earned rebates, after it reaches $15 they send you the check. It really is amazing. For any of you that are interested this is the site: (sorry if I already told you about this, you know the memory?) http://www.bizrate.com/reg/login.xpml?ir=login & url=/reg/account.xpml Vicki, Md Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2000 Report Share Posted March 11, 2000 Hi everyone, Wow, whoever recommended the book " The Virus Within " by Regush, Thanks! I can hardly put it down. I can't believe that the general public is told that AIDS is caused by HIV, when there is so much evidence that it probably isn't, or its only a co-factor. We all need to be tested for HHV-6. Its from the herpes family (6th herpes viruses identified) and it could be deadly. There are two strains, one isn't has lethal as the other. I'm only half way through the book, but there is so much information in it, and easy reading that I'm going to be finished maybe tonight. I highly recommend it to everyone! It was a little expensive, but well worth it. I found a great site that gives you rebates and discounts if you order through them or their affiliates, its great. So I got the book for about $20 but earned rebates, after it reaches $15 they send you the check. It really is amazing. For any of you that are interested this is the site: (sorry if I already told you about this, you know the memory?) http://www.bizrate.com/reg/login.xpml?ir=login & url=/reg/account.xpml Vicki, Md Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2000 Report Share Posted September 29, 2000 Last night, Dr. Goldberg recommended the book " The Virus Within : The Coming Epidemic " by Regush. I read a bit about it on amazon.com, but I am wondering if anyone on this list has read it and what your thoughts are on it. I would love feedback because I am trying not to spend money where I cannot afford to. Thanks, folks. Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2000 Report Share Posted October 4, 2000 This is the best book i have ever read about anything to do with autism, , etc.. I strongly encourage anyone with suspicions or confirmed dx of to read it. I recommend it rountinely. Tina Hendrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 , what's the name of the followup book to 'The virus within' ?? I have so many articles in my files on retroviruses and what damage they cause that it's scary. doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Doris, I am not aware that there is a follow-up book -if there is let me know, Thanks, _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Doris and Steve Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 5:43 AM Subject: re: the virus within , what's the name of the followup book to 'The virus within' ?? I have so many articles in my files on retroviruses and what damage they cause that it's scary. doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I'm reading The Virus Within right now and it's scary! It just astounds me that this information isn't household news. According to the book, the CDC and other medical bureaucracies were more interested in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle choices. The medical community believed that diseases born out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for the most part, under control. These are the same people who may have total control of our health care choices in a few years. I'm not sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government run health care. robyn > > , > what's the name of the followup book to 'The virus within' ?? > > I have so many articles in my files on retroviruses and what damage they > cause that it's scary. > > > doris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I know. I shutter and I fight the fear that comes with thinking a government controlled health care system. I think it is one of the worst things that could ever happen to medicine... - --- Robyn <rngcoggs@...> wrote: > I'm reading The Virus Within right now and it's > scary! It just astounds me that this information > isn't household news. According to the book, the CDC > and other medical bureaucracies were more interested > in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle choices. > The medical community believed that diseases born > out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for the most > part, under control. > > These are the same people who may have total control > of our health care choices in a few years. I'm not > sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government run health > care. > > robyn > > > > > > , > > what's the name of the followup book to 'The virus > within' ?? > > > > I have so many articles in my files on > retroviruses and what damage they > > cause that it's scary. > > > > > > doris > > > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! Visit my blog http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Our current system is pretty bad. I don't 'get' that any proposed systems will be government run (any more than they already are), only that they will be an improvement over what we have now. There are very few doctors I even trust anymore, and even with medical insurance, we pay a FORTUNE for sub-standard care. I feel like many doctors have NO answers for what ails my family and I, and many of their treatments actually cause more illness. I DREAD getting sick because I never know who to go to (my GP always seems to send me to some specialist or another, or for more testing, often with a " well, we just don't know for sure " as the answer). Many 'experts' have waiting lists 6 or more months long, and they refuse to even take insurance (because, frankly, it's too much hassle, too expensive for them, and they don't have to). Our current system literally makes me sick just thinking about it! Kristy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Hankinson Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Re: the virus within I know. I shutter and I fight the fear that comes with thinking a government controlled health care system. I think it is one of the worst things that could ever happen to medicine... - --- Robyn <rngcoggs@... <mailto:rngcoggs%40sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > I'm reading The Virus Within right now and it's > scary! It just astounds me that this information > isn't household news. According to the book, the CDC > and other medical bureaucracies were more interested > in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle choices. > The medical community believed that diseases born > out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for the most > part, under control. > > These are the same people who may have total control > of our health care choices in a few years. I'm not > sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government run health > care. > > robyn > > > > > > , > > what's the name of the followup book to 'The virus > within' ?? > > > > I have so many articles in my files on > retroviruses and what damage they > > cause that it's scary. > > > > > > doris > > > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! Visit my blog http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 We are an Air Force family as well, but I have to say we generally refer to the military medical facilities as the " Medical Hobby Shop " ....lol. Through the 20 + years my husband has been active duty I have definitely seen a downsizing on military medicine. More care is off base now than I ever remember. I really prefer the off base care. It appears to me like the military docs are just so overworked (and underpaid) that it makes it difficult for any type of personal care. If this is what socialized medicine is like, it is NOT a good thing. -S **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make meals for Under $10. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 You have to keep in mind that putting the government in charge of all health care will only make things worse. If you need an MRI in Canada, the wait is six months or more. You have a tumor--expect to wait months and months to have it removed. I agree our system isn't the best, but why do you think people from Canada and other countries come here for medical care? If my doctor orders an MRI, I usually can get it done in a couple of days. The new health care " database " passed in the stimulus package will have the some bureaucrat in D.C. dictating in real time to your doctor who, when, where, and maybe even if, your doctor can treat you. What do you think will happen to all our kids with HHV6? We still have docs telling us it's a " harmless " virus. All the best, Robyn > > > I'm reading The Virus Within right now and > it's > > scary! It just astounds me that this information > > isn't household news. According to the book, the > CDC > > and other medical bureaucracies were more interested > > in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle choices. > > The medical community believed that diseases born > > out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for the most > > part, under control. > > > > These are the same people who may have total control > > of our health care choices in a few years. I'm not > > sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government run health > > care. > > > > robyn > > > > > > > > > > , > > > what's the name of the followup book to > 'The virus > > within' ?? > > > > > > I have so many articles in my files on > > retroviruses and what damage they > > > cause that it's scary. > > > > > > > > > doris > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! > > Visit my blog > > http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 One other point . . . My father was in the Air Force and I grew up with government-controlled health care. The federal government pioneered the concept of managed care. Military hospitals were the first HMOs. Robyn > > > > > I'm reading The Virus Within right now and > > it's > > > scary! It just astounds me that this information > > > isn't household news. According to the book, > the > > CDC > > > and other medical bureaucracies were more > interested > > > in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle choices. > > > The medical community believed that diseases born > > > out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for the > most > > > part, under control. > > > > > > These are the same people who may have total > control > > > of our health care choices in a few years. > I'm not > > > sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government run > health > > > care. > > > > > > robyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > what's the name of the followup book to > > 'The virus > > > within' ?? > > > > > > > > I have so many articles in my files on > > > retroviruses and what damage they > > > > cause that it's scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > doris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! > > > > Visit my blog > > > > http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Why are people from here going to Mexico and India for medical care??? Kristy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Robyn & Greg Coggins Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:40 AM Subject: RE: Re: the virus within You have to keep in mind that putting the government in charge of all health care will only make things worse. If you need an MRI in Canada, the wait is six months or more. You have a tumor--expect to wait months and months to have it removed. I agree our system isn't the best, but why do you think people from Canada and other countries come here for medical care? If my doctor orders an MRI, I usually can get it done in a couple of days. The new health care " database " passed in the stimulus package will have the some bureaucrat in D.C. dictating in real time to your doctor who, when, where, and maybe even if, your doctor can treat you. What do you think will happen to all our kids with HHV6? We still have docs telling us it's a " harmless " virus. All the best, Robyn > > > I'm reading The Virus Within right now and > it's > > scary! It just astounds me that this information > > isn't household news. According to the book, the > CDC > > and other medical bureaucracies were more interested > > in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle choices. > > The medical community believed that diseases born > > out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for the most > > part, under control. > > > > These are the same people who may have total control > > of our health care choices in a few years. I'm not > > sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government run health > > care. > > > > robyn > > > > > > > > > > , > > > what's the name of the followup book to > 'The virus > > within' ?? > > > > > > I have so many articles in my files on > > retroviruses and what damage they > > > cause that it's scary. > > > > > > > > > doris > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! > > Visit my blog > > http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Cost, new procedures and treratments not available/approved here, and alternative medicine (non-western). Just some possibilities. I have a feeling if treatments are available here in the US, they are usually done here, unless it is a cost issue. I worked at the Mayo Clininc in MN, and there were swarms of people that went there for conventinal western medicine that could afford it from many countries. > > > I'm reading The Virus Within right now and > it's > > scary! It just astounds me that this information > > isn't household news. According to the book, the > CDC > > and other medical bureaucracies were more interested > > in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle choices. > > The medical community believed that diseases born > > out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for the most > > part, under control. > > > > These are the same people who may have total control > > of our health care choices in a few years. I'm not > > sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government run health > > care. > > > > robyn > > > > > > > > > > , > > > what's the name of the followup book to > 'The virus > > within' ?? > > > > > > I have so many articles in my files on > > retroviruses and what damage they > > > cause that it's scary. > > > > > > > > > doris > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! > > Visit my blog > > http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Is this the one by Nicholos Regush? From: Robyn <rngcoggs@...> Subject: Re: the virus within Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 8:37 PM I'm reading The Virus Within right now and it's scary! It just astounds me that this information isn't household news. According to the book, the CDC and other medical bureaucracies were more interested in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle choices. The medical community believed that diseases born out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for the most part, under control. These are the same people who may have total control of our health care choices in a few years. I'm not sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government run health care. robyn > > , > what's the name of the followup book to 'The virus within' ?? > > I have so many articles in my files on retroviruses and what damage they > cause that it's scary. > > > doris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Yes. Caroline From: angie huiz <angiehuiz@...> Reply-< > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:48:19 -0700 (PDT) < > Subject: Re: Re: the virus within Is this the one by Nicholos Regush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Doris, Are you talking about ³Osler's Web: Inside the Labyrinth of the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic² by Hillary ? I know it¹s not by the same author as The Virus Within ( Regush) but it is the other book Dr. G. recommended to me years ago. Caroline G. From: Crosss <crosswilsons@...> Reply-< > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:25:05 -0700 < > Subject: RE: re: the virus within Doris, I am not aware that there is a follow-up book -if there is let me know, Thanks, _____ From: <mailto:%40> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of Doris and Steve Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 5:43 AM Subject: re: the virus within , what's the name of the followup book to 'The virus within' ?? I have so many articles in my files on retroviruses and what damage they cause that it's scary. doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I'm not sure about people going to India for medical care, but I do know some have gone to Mexico for cheap plastic surgery, which was botched. The only other medical service I know of across the border is cheap pharmaceuticals. Who is going to India and Mexico for medical care and why? Robyn > > > > > I'm reading The Virus Within right now and > > it's > > > scary! It just astounds me that this information > > > isn't household news. According to the book, > the > > CDC > > > and other medical bureaucracies were more > interested > > > in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle choices. > > > The medical community believed that diseases born > > > out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for the > most > > > part, under control. > > > > > > These are the same people who may have total > control > > > of our health care choices in a few years. > I'm not > > > sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government run > health > > > care. > > > > > > robyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > what's the name of the followup book to > > 'The virus > > > within' ?? > > > > > > > > I have so many articles in my files on > > > retroviruses and what damage they > > > > cause that it's scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > doris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! > > > > Visit my blog > > > > http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Yes, it is. > > From: Robyn <rngcoggs@...> > Subject: Re: the virus within > > Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 8:37 PM > > > > > > > I'm reading The Virus Within right now and it's > scary! It just astounds me that this information isn't > household news. According to the book, the CDC and other > medical bureaucracies were more interested in pursuing > diseases caused by lifestyle choices. The medical community > believed that diseases born out of viruses, bacteria, etc., > were, for the most part, under control. > > These are the same people who may have total control of our > health care choices in a few years. I'm not sure which > is scarier--HHV6 or government run health care. > > robyn > > > > > > , > > what's the name of the followup book to 'The > virus within' ?? > > > > I have so many articles in my files on retroviruses > and what damage they > > cause that it's scary. > > > > > > doris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Here is an article on India: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49743-2004Oct20.html We live in San Diego, which is very close to Mexico and I know several people who routinely go there for medical & dental care and prescriptions because the costs are so much lower than here. They feel the care is as good as it is here. This is for routine care and basic medical, but that is what my family is paying $1000s a year for, even with (supposedly) top-notch insurance. I, for one, got my fertility drugs from a pharmacy in Tijuana - at the suggestion of my fertility doctor - for 1/4 the cost they would have been here. It's my understanding that the Immunovir that some of the families on this list are using can only be obtained from outside the US. It's expensive, but I feel like if it were available from here the cost would probably be prohibitive for most of us. I'm not saying that our health care system is worst or better than others, but it is definitely flawed in a huge way and it's only getting worse. I am dealing right now with yet another across the board rate increase on our insurance. Last year we had to get new policies because the family rate was jumping from $400/month to almost $1000/month (just the premiums, not the copays and other out-of-pocket expenses). Our 'new' policies are now headed for the same type of rate increase ;-( Kristy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Robyn & Greg Coggins Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: RE: Re: the virus within I'm not sure about people going to India for medical care, but I do know some have gone to Mexico for cheap plastic surgery, which was botched. The only other medical service I know of across the border is cheap pharmaceuticals. Who is going to India and Mexico for medical care and why? Robyn > > > > > I'm reading The Virus Within right now and > > it's > > > scary! It just astounds me that this information > > > isn't household news. According to the book, > the > > CDC > > > and other medical bureaucracies were more > interested > > > in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle choices. > > > The medical community believed that diseases born > > > out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for the > most > > > part, under control. > > > > > > These are the same people who may have total > control > > > of our health care choices in a few years. > I'm not > > > sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government run > health > > > care. > > > > > > robyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > what's the name of the followup book to > > 'The virus > > > within' ?? > > > > > > > > I have so many articles in my files on > > > retroviruses and what damage they > > > > cause that it's scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > doris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! > > > > Visit my blog > > > > http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 One of the reasons that medical and dental care is so expensive in this country is the cost of malpractice insurance. I agree that the cost of medical care is out of control in this country. We've seen our premiums go up and our copays along with it. I'm just concerned that our access to protocols such as Dr. G's would be limited or eliminated entirely if the government creates a medical " advisory " board to direct patient care. all the best, Robyn > > > > > > > I'm reading The Virus Within right now > and > > > it's > > > > scary! It just astounds me that this > information > > > > isn't household news. According to the > book, > > the > > > CDC > > > > and other medical bureaucracies were more > > interested > > > > in pursuing diseases caused by lifestyle > choices. > > > > The medical community believed that diseases > born > > > > out of viruses, bacteria, etc., were, for > the > > most > > > > part, under control. > > > > > > > > These are the same people who may have total > > control > > > > of our health care choices in a few years. > > I'm not > > > > sure which is scarier--HHV6 or government > run > > health > > > > care. > > > > > > > > robyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > what's the name of the followup > book to > > > 'The virus > > > > within' ?? > > > > > > > > > > I have so many articles in my files on > > > > retroviruses and what damage they > > > > > cause that it's scary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May the Lord bless you and keep you! > > > > > > Visit my blog > > > > > > http://bloominwhereyourplanted.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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