Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 Hi Diane, The only treatments that I have tried were concerning the medical issues. I think it's important to get the brain working properly before anything else. The only thing I have heard about AIT was in J. Smythes testimony.(link below) He is now addressing the medical issues, but in his testimony he states that his son lost the few words he had after AIT. Cheryl http://www.house.gov/reform/hearings/healthcare/00.06.04/smythe.htm > > Has anyone ever tried AIT Training? My son is five years old and we have > an opportunity to try this treatment. Any feedback good or bad would be > greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 Becky, I think what you are doing is in line with what Kathy was saying and what Dr. G says is needed. Helping the brain medically, not just doing the other things that won't correct the immune problems. Fast ForWard was one of the things that Dr. Fosnot recommended for my son. The school instead wasted the whole year trying to not address anything at all. I am also interested in Biofeedback because of others who have found it helpful. Rehabilitation is definitely needed, but you want to be developing the correct parts of the brain. NOT getting some other part to take over the function. Cheryl > sorry, Kathy... I disagree with you on this one. While I am a HUGE supporter > of therapy and have been connected with Dr. Goldberg for four years, I > think it is equally important to find the bits and pieces educationally to > help our kids. If someone's child meets the AIT Training profile, and they > have the money to do it, why not try it? It doesn't hurt. And may have en > enormous benefit. We have followed protocol, plus we have an extensive > IEP and have completed programs such as Fast ForWord. I am also very > interested in Biofeedback because my son seems to meet the profile for good > outcome. We cannot just let protocol teach the kids. It's everything > together. Everyone together. Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 > Becky, I agree. Though we seemed to have little success with AIT, it did not > hurt, and later efforts such as Fast ForWord were successful. How does > Biofeedback apply to this population, and where does one find information > about it? > Thanks > Hi , I have found the whole biofeedback concept very interesting. There are parents who have said the treatments have helped their kids alot. Mine are being treating for , but I have been trying to look at other things that could be helpful. One of the things that I found interesting is that some of the literature discusses an improvement in brain bloodflow. The site below is one that is mentioned alot. Hope this helps. Cheryl http://www.eegspectrum.com/html/about.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 In a message dated 8/1/00 11:42:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bestwayinc@... writes: << Has anyone ever tried AIT Training? My son is five years old and we have an opportunity to try this treatment. Any feedback good or bad would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Diane >> Diane, We did the in home one with my daughter and her receptive understanding improved greatly! Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 AIT does not have any effect on the immune system which is the source of the problem. If you are not healing the immune system and allowing your child to have access to the parts of the brain that he is now not utilizing then any kind of therapy has a limited chance. There are no studies in the literature that say AIT is beneficial although there are anecdotals. The bottom line is that healing the immune system is the only thing that makes sense! Neuroimmunedr.com is the answer. Kathy R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2000 Report Share Posted August 1, 2000 Go for it. Non-invasive and possibly may help. Unlike many " treatments " for autism, this has no downside so long as your child can sit still long enough to complete it. It's also pretty intensive. Good luck! Let me know how he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2000 Report Share Posted August 2, 2000 My oldest son participated in the Berard method of AIT in 8/92. I researched it for a year prior to him having it. All I wanted was to have him be no longer or have decreased sensitivity to high frequency sounds. To this day his only sensitivity/fear is blown up balloons in enclosed environments. Strangely he no longer required 60 msg. of Ritalin by Week 2 of the training. He was napping (and still does). He turned 20 7/30. The behavioral issues involved remained constant for about six months and then he seemed to peak. By that I mean intense behavioral outbursts decreased gradually. Now, although I started a new job (thank goodness) in 11/92 I don't think that played as much a factor in his life as starting the new private sp ed school in 9/92 with staff more trained on autism. Did it help him to talk more? I don't know. I was just pleased he tolerated loud noises better. Eliminating Ritalin was an unexpected joy. He did however by Week 2 also state " I hate being autistic " during a behavioral outburst. I think of that as the initiation of self-determination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2000 Report Share Posted August 2, 2000 sorry, Kathy... I disagree with you on this one. While I am a HUGE supporter of therapy and have been connected with Dr. Goldberg for four years, I think it is equally important to find the bits and pieces educationally to help our kids. If someone's child meets the AIT Training profile, and they have the money to do it, why not try it? It doesn't hurt. And may have en enormous benefit. We have followed protocol, plus we have an extensive IEP and have completed programs such as Fast ForWord. I am also very interested in Biofeedback because my son seems to meet the profile for good outcome. We cannot just let protocol teach the kids. It's everything together. Everyone together. Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2000 Report Share Posted August 2, 2000 well said, Becky! I think the important thing here is to do everything we can, but to first " do no harm " I find AIT to fit into the category of harmless and potentially helpful. I think Dr. Goldberg believes in PROOF of a problem before treating it, a position I support. In the meantime anything we can do to help our children learn and function is worth the time and effort. linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2000 Report Share Posted August 2, 2000 CAn someone explain to me what AIT,Fast Forword, and Biofeedback does positively to a child's brain?. What do these methods entail? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:47:35 -0700 1raptor <1raptor@...> wrote: >Becky, I think what you are doing is in line with what Kathy was saying and >what Dr. G says is needed. Helping the brain medically, not just doing the >other things that won't correct the immune problems. Fast ForWard was one >of the things that Dr. Fosnot recommended for my son. The school instead >wasted the whole year trying to not address anything at all. I am also >interested in Biofeedback because of others who have found it helpful. >Rehabilitation is definitely needed, but you want to be developing the >correct parts of the brain. NOT getting some other part to take over the >function. >Cheryl > >> sorry, Kathy... I disagree with you on this one. While I am a HUGE >supporter >> of therapy and have been connected with Dr. Goldberg for four years, >I >> think it is equally important to find the bits and pieces educationally to >> help our kids. If someone's child meets the AIT Training profile, and they >> have the money to do it, why not try it? It doesn't hurt. And may have en >> enormous benefit. We have followed protocol, plus we have an >extensive >> IEP and have completed programs such as Fast ForWord. I am also very >> interested in Biofeedback because my son seems to meet the profile for >good >> outcome. We cannot just let protocol teach the kids. It's everything >> together. Everyone together. Becky > >Becky or Kathy, What is the AIT profile? We were going to try it with my son after we are finnished with Dr. G.'s protocol. He is four and trying to talk now. Does not have sound sensitivity. I was just curious. Thanks. Kathy > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------<e|- >Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! >1. Fill in the brief application >2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds >3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR >1/6628/12/_/472608/_/965262393/ >--------------------------------------------------------------------|e>- > >Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with >the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the >opinion of the Research Institute. > > > _______________________________________________ Get your free e-mail at http://www.ourhouse.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 : Re: effects on brain from AIT, biofeedback, and Fast ForWord .... well, that's far too much info for one email, but what I can say is that there are studies which demonstrate a change in processing with these programs. If you're interested in learning more, I discovered the following sites to help you do your own research. (If these hot links do not work, please write me back and I will search the exact website address for you.) <A HREF= " http://www.fastforword.com/ " >Scientific Learning</A> <A HREF= " http://www.tomatis.net/Tomatis_tomatis.html " >Tomatis Auditory Training in Bethesda, land. Dejean: B</A><A HREF= " http://search.aol.com/redirect.adp?appname=QBP & query=%53%96%69%d9%55%08% e8%55%db%23%22%87%61%7e%2d%a2%c5%02%d5%33%be%85%0d%2b%4b%1f%fe%c2%2e%ef%67%3e% 99%6e%f8%fc%c3%cb%ec%e6%a1%1d%43%f9%a8%e7%bf%0a%b7%35%a5%2e%24%eb%80%27%00%0b% a4%1d%8c%81%cd%af%4c%04%e2%07%37%c7%a4%17%3c%55%ad%42%75%a1%ee%83%34%5a%07%5d% 2e%5c%d4%f7%69%e1%44%ed%e7%ab%94%d1%21%11%1e%78%24%6f%3c%ec%dd%bd%5f%b3%1d%7f% a5%9a " >IOFEEDBACK RESEARCH - Druckman/Mivevich: Application of EEG- Neurofeedback for</A><A HREF= " http://www.tomatis.net/Tomatis_tomatis.html " > </A> By the way, Fast ForWord had a HUGE positive effect for my son with lasting results! Some children cannot complete the program, so make sure your child fits the profile before enrolling him/her. Experts in this area should know who may benefit and who may not. Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2000 Report Share Posted August 4, 2000 IF you have the money is exactly right. There are anecdotals that say it helps. That does not mean that it does of course. I agree that if it is noninvasive and the child does not mind, and you can afford it. The few patients that I had who tried it really did not have that kind of money to spend so were disappointed. However, I would never delay starting the protocol for AIT. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2000 Report Share Posted August 4, 2000 We really need an outline of what comprises a good rehab program for children as they start getting better. We are slowly putting together one. If anyone has any ideas please send them on! Please describe your child as what works for my 11 year old may not do a thing for you 6 year old! The finished product will be shared with everyone! KathyR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2000 Report Share Posted August 4, 2000 Becky, thanks for the info. Could you tell what is actually being done when one uses Fast ForWord? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 Becky, I agree. Though we seemed to have little success with AIT, it did not hurt, and later efforts such as Fast ForWord were successful. How does Biofeedback apply to this population, and where does one find information about it? Thanks Re: AIT Training > sorry, Kathy... I disagree with you on this one. While I am a HUGE supporter > of therapy and have been connected with Dr. Goldberg for four years, I > think it is equally important to find the bits and pieces educationally to > help our kids. If someone's child meets the AIT Training profile, and they > have the money to do it, why not try it? It doesn't hurt. And may have en > enormous benefit. We have followed protocol, plus we have an extensive > IEP and have completed programs such as Fast ForWord. I am also very > interested in Biofeedback because my son seems to meet the profile for good > outcome. We cannot just let protocol teach the kids. It's everything > together. Everyone together. Becky > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2000 Report Share Posted August 5, 2000 : Here is one side on biofeedback that links up to some very interesting studies: <A HREF= " http://webideas.com/biofeedback " >THE BIOFEEDBACK WEBZINE</A > (if hotlink does not work, please type in www.webideas.com/biofeedback. I am very interested in pursuing this because of some of my son's attention deficit issues. (Biofeedback is designed to help children with ADD, but there are studies on children with autism, too.) Also, do a web search for there may be additional info for children with autism. I know I read some specific studies a while back, but I can't remember where. Dr. Goldberg thinks it has some efficacy, but he warns to be cautious of the provider (make sure they are sufficiently trained). Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2000 Report Share Posted August 6, 2000 I have had personal knowledge of a few kids who have lost all speech, and regessed greatly after AIT. I have haerd of others who did well, but I don't know of any personally. It had very little effect on our son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2000 Report Share Posted August 8, 2000 > In a message dated 8/1/00 11:42:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > bestwayinc@e... writes: > > << Has anyone ever tried AIT Training? My son is five years old and we have > an opportunity to try this treatment. Any feedback good or bad would be > greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > Diane > >> > Diane, > We did the in home one with my daughter and her receptive understanding > improved greatly! > Tina Diane, My 8yo daughter did AIT 10days x2 hours (I think it was 2 hours) a day. It was in San Diego. To be honest I haven't seen any change at all in my daughter's sensitivity's. She is still very much bothered by many sounds. But I did see pretty miraculous results on 2 other non verbal children doing training at same time. We are now doing Fast ForWord. The AIT cost $1300. Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Does anyone know of anyone who does AIT in the Dallas/ Plano area that you felt is good at this therapy? Thanks in advance for any names Allie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 Does anyone know of anyone who does AIT in the Dallas/ Plano area that you felt is good at this therapy? Thanks in advance for any names Allie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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