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Dear Loviatar,

You might search for message #1798 from a family that moved to Brasil

to escape these demons and what they did to handle it. (I think that

is what you are referring to?)

Personally, I have been fighting these things for almost a year and a

half....much too long in my book but many have been fighting this

battle for a lot longer.

I too, have started spraying everything with Epsom Salts and have

seen a good improvement but I am not out of woods yet.

Lady Dee

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> Someone mentioned a Brazilian list of things to do. How do I find

this?

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Lady Dee,

Thanks for pointing me to the Brazilian story. I'm wondering if

something like that has been going on with me as I don't really feel

the crawling (haven't felt it for a while) but I keep getting bites.

There's a whole variety of bites, though, from pin prick almost open

things, clear blister in middle of pruritis, vesicular papules (zit-

like bites), mosquito bite looking things, etc. So, I think this

can't be just some dust mite that is causing a little bit of contact

allergy.

It's just rather strange that I have no more crawling but the bites

persist. The house that I was the source of contamination, the

people are still fighting them and they feel the crawling and the

whole works.

I'm wondering if they're dying off and not reproducing for me, even

though the bites come at a rather regular frequency. Supposedly a

lot of people in California have gotten rid of tropical rat mites by

getting rid of the rats or mice, they die out after about two months

of getting rid of the original host.

Loviatar

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> > Someone mentioned a Brazilian list of things to do. How do I

find

> this?

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Hi Loviatar,

I agree that what most of us seem to have is not attributable to a

dust mite. It does sound like possible bird mites or rodent mites.

How long have you had the symptoms? Hopefully, if you aren't

experiencing the crawling sensation, then maybe you are just dealing

with external bites in the environment and not the ones that seem to

stay on or in the skin 24/7. Then I think it might be a matter of

getting rid of the hosts and mites in the environment. It is tough

to know since these darn " mites " are invisible unless you are lucky

enough to catch one and see that under a microscope.

The antihistamines help with the itching but not necessarily the

eradication of these things. I take them at night to help me sleep.

Have you tried spraying your skin or environment with Epsom Salts?

(Rita's remedy) That has helped me (and others) a great deal in

killing these things but it doesn't happen overnight. Keep up the

good work and battle! We will all get past this somehow!

Lady Dee

> > >

> > > Someone mentioned a Brazilian list of things to do. How do I

> find

> > this?

> > >

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Hi Lady Dee,

Thanks for your response. I've had the mites since November 3, 2007,

so it's about four months. Around December 25, the crawling subsided

even though I was in an infested house at the time, crawling mainly

when I woke up from sleep. When I left the infested house about

January 15, the crawling almost completely stopped, although I've had

bites every day even to today. One day I had an O'Doul's non-

alcoholic beer (less than 0.5% ABV, about 1/10 of a normal beer) and

I received more than 10 bites within the next couple hours which

indicated to me that I had a lot of mites on me all the time, I just

didn't feel them.

I see people scratching themselves and rubbing their legs and ankles

often when I sit in places with a lot of people around. It can't be

a coincidence that different people do this wherever I go.

I am now in a group housing setting, no one in my apartment has

complained of the mites so apparently they are all immune to them.

Because of the setting, it seems difficult to go into major spraying

operations although I've used insecticides in my room, I'm running a

dehumidifyer and a pro-ionic air purifyer. I wonder what kind of

mess the epsom spray would make and if it would help if I keep

reinfesting myself from the car. I also can't soak my clothes in it

due to housing setting. I wash clothes constantly and use oils (tea

tree shampoo, witch hazel & oils) and insect repellants.

Thanks for the insight.

Loviatar

> > > >

> > > > Someone mentioned a Brazilian list of things to do. How do I

> > find

> > > this?

> > > >

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Loviatar,

Others I have talked to about these mites have noted that as

well...that sometimes we can feel them on us and other times we don't

but we still receive bites. It is tough to understand how these

things operate!

I also live in a small place where I share laundry facilities so I am

unable to soak all my clothes and linens as I have to walk to a

laundry room some yards away.

The Epsom Salts can create a mess especially in the car but you can

spray the car and then later clean the surfaces with warm water or a

cleaner so the car interior won't look like it has been " snowing "

inside! But leave it in the fabric/carpet areas if possible where

the mites most likely hide. I know....trying to keep several areas

mite free on a daily basis is quite a challenge! You could also have

your car carpet and upholstery detailed professionally but it is also

good to get some spray right back into the fabric to prevent further

infestation.

Thanks to the Epsom Salts, I don't have to vacuum my indoor carpet so

often anymore and that has helped with the tremendous number of

chores related to this affliction.

I am glad to hear that you have air purifiers and a

dehumidifier...that should help a lot with the airborne sprays and

chemicals that may be present and protect your lungs! I wear a

painters mask as well if I do any major spraying in my place.

Since you have only had this for a few months, I sure hope you can

get rid of those mites quickly! There are loads of good suggestions

on this site and on Birdmites.org. Good luck!

Lady Dee

> > > > >

> > > > > Someone mentioned a Brazilian list of things to do. How do

I

> > > find

> > > > this?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Hi Lady,

I also share laundry facilities...so what i did is I

bougt a small plastic tub from Walmart and soak things

in that in the shower.....

then the next day, hang those wet things for a while

in the shower to get some of the water out so they

arent so heavy....

then wash them.

It sucks....it is so much work...i dream of living in

a house where i have my own washing machine...it would

be so much easier!

But i have to remind myself that I live across the

street from the beach and that is so nice.

But ugh....all the slaving everyday....

I think my ozone machine is helping...you should think

about getting one.

Also--i have been taking iver the same as what Golf's

dr scheduled him to take...except i am taking the

horse paste--it is super easy to get from horse feed

store---i think it is helping....

The cs in lotion really gets them out of my skin--i

use alot of cs per lotion.

I put a vibrating mens clippers against my nose

yesterday and they came out of my nose....i read they

dont like vibrations....i am going to look into

something bigger that vibrates.

love LL

--- ladydee96 <ladydee96@...> wrote:

> Loviatar,

>

> Others I have talked to about these mites have noted

> that as

> well...that sometimes we can feel them on us and

> other times we don't

> but we still receive bites. It is tough to

> understand how these

> things operate!

>

> I also live in a small place where I share laundry

> facilities so I am

> unable to soak all my clothes and linens as I have

> to walk to a

> laundry room some yards away.

>

> The Epsom Salts can create a mess especially in the

> car but you can

> spray the car and then later clean the surfaces with

> warm water or a

> cleaner so the car interior won't look like it has

> been " snowing "

> inside! But leave it in the fabric/carpet areas if

> possible where

> the mites most likely hide. I know....trying to

> keep several areas

> mite free on a daily basis is quite a challenge!

> You could also have

> your car carpet and upholstery detailed

> professionally but it is also

> good to get some spray right back into the fabric to

> prevent further

> infestation.

>

> Thanks to the Epsom Salts, I don't have to vacuum my

> indoor carpet so

> often anymore and that has helped with the

> tremendous number of

> chores related to this affliction.

>

> I am glad to hear that you have air purifiers and a

> dehumidifier...that should help a lot with the

> airborne sprays and

> chemicals that may be present and protect your

> lungs! I wear a

> painters mask as well if I do any major spraying in

> my place.

>

> Since you have only had this for a few months, I

> sure hope you can

> get rid of those mites quickly! There are loads of

> good suggestions

> on this site and on Birdmites.org. Good luck!

>

> Lady Dee

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Lady Dee,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for pointing me to the Brazilian story.

> I'm wondering if

> > > > something like that has been going on with me

> as I don't really

> > > feel

> > > > the crawling (haven't felt it for a while) but

> I keep getting

> > > bites.

> > > > There's a whole variety of bites, though, from

> pin prick almost

> > > open

> > > > things, clear blister in middle of pruritis,

> vesicular papules

> > (zit-

> > > > like bites), mosquito bite looking things,

> etc. So, I think

> this

> > > > can't be just some dust mite that is causing a

> little

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Hi LL,

Thanks for the suggestions! I am so tired at the end of the day as I

am sure we all are if we work a full day... that soaking clothes is

the last thing on my mind but I think for smaller items, I could

certainly get a tub and soak those. I, too look forward to having a

place with a washer & dryer! That would save on a lot of energy

expended in hauling clothes to and from!

I also just purchased an air purifier with the UV light that zaps

microrganisms. I think it is helping as well. And I just bought

more cs so I will try some of that in my lotion to see what happens

there. Do you leave it on or wash it off after removing those

specks? Thanks LL!

Lady Dee

P.S. I am sure the ocean with it's sea salt must be helping, too!

Are you spraying Epsom Salts on your skin as well? That has helped

me a great deal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lady Dee,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for pointing me to the Brazilian story.

> > I'm wondering if

> > > > > something like that has been going on with me

> > as I don't really

> > > > feel

> > > > > the crawling (haven't felt it for a while) but

> > I keep getting

> > > > bites.

> > > > > There's a whole variety of bites, though, from

> > pin prick almost

> > > > open

> > > > > things, clear blister in middle of pruritis,

> > vesicular papules

> > > (zit-

> > > > > like bites), mosquito bite looking things,

> > etc. So, I think

> > this

> > > > > can't be just some dust mite that is causing a

> > little

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>

>

>

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Hi Lady,

After i put the cs/lotion on i roll my entire body

with a lint roller. The sticky one where you peel off

the sheets.

i cannot tell you how much crap comes out of my

skin!!!!

Yes...i do the epsom salt also...i try to do both in

one day or alternate.

love LL

--- ladydee96 <ladydee96@...> wrote:

> Hi LL,

>

> Thanks for the suggestions! I am so tired at the end

> of the day as I

> am sure we all are if we work a full day... that

> soaking clothes is

> the last thing on my mind but I think for smaller

> items, I could

> certainly get a tub and soak those. I, too look

> forward to having a

> place with a washer & dryer! That would save on a

> lot of energy

> expended in hauling clothes to and from!

>

> I also just purchased an air purifier with the UV

> light that zaps

> microrganisms. I think it is helping as well. And

> I just bought

> more cs so I will try some of that in my lotion to

> see what happens

> there. Do you leave it on or wash it off after

> removing those

> specks? Thanks LL!

>

> Lady Dee

>

> P.S. I am sure the ocean with it's sea salt must be

> helping, too!

> Are you spraying Epsom Salts on your skin as well?

> That has helped

> me a great deal.

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi Lady Dee,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your response. I've had the mites

> > > since November 3,

> > > 2007,

> > > > so it's about four months. Around December

> 25,

> > > the crawling

> > > subsided

> > > > even though I was in an infested house at the

> > > time, crawling mainly

> > > > when I woke up from sleep. When I left the

> > > infested house about

> > > > January 15, the crawling almost completely

> > > stopped, although I've

> > > had

> > > > bites every day even to today. One day I had

> an

> > > O'Doul's non-

> > > > alcoholic beer (less than 0.5% ABV, about 1/10

> of

> > > a normal beer)

> > > and

> > > > I received more than 10 bites within the next

> > > couple hours which

> > > > indicated to me that I had a lot of mites on

> me

> > > all the time, I

> > > just

> > > > didn't feel them.

> > > >

> > > > I see people scratching themselves and rubbing

> > > their legs and

> > > ankles

> > > > often when I sit in places with a lot of

> people

> > > around. It can't

> > > be

>

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