Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 To Tim, Melinda, Crystal, Ray, Joan, Fritolay, Manymites, Little Fish Ass and everyone in this group- I wanted to thank you for your concern and kind words. Knowing that there are not only people out there who can relate but also who really seem to care means a great deal as I'm all of you are aware. I'm praying hard for you guys and hope that you all have a wonderful holiday season. I wanted to share a conversation with you guys that I had with a doctor recently who told me that these things (and most bugs and ALL parasites) definitely leave a pheremone scent trail and he also said that they mainly do this along a vein in order to be as close as possible to their food source which, as he said, is why they really like vascular ( " veiny " ) people. He said that because all of our scented shampoos and soaps actually have scent pheremones in them which really attract these things, people with this condition should only use " fragrance-free " shampoos and soaps. He said that not only do fragrance-free products stop them from being as attracted to us, but they also help to wash away the scent trails that these things leave on our bodies. This makes sense to me because I remember when I cut my hair really short I saw two distinct trails in my scalp that led right down to my eyebrows where the trail picked up again and then led right down to my eyes and nose where I'm sure they enter(ed?) my body at will. I just started using fragrance-free shampoo (can't find soap yet) about 4 days ago and I have really noticed a difference. I can feel my scalp again and my hair actually goes where I want it to when I brush it which hasn't been the case for a long time. This scent trail thing also reminded me of the post I read about someone putting tape above their eyebrows which seemed to stop them from traveling from the forehead down in to the eyebrow area. Could the tape have covered up the scent trail and confused them? Additionally- could these pheremones be used against these things in order to draw them in to a trap of some sort? I know this probably sounds CRAZY but I think that's what they do with ant traps and I just thought it could possibly work the same for these things. Any thoughts on this would be welcome- I'll keep you posted on the " fragrance-free " concept... Happy holidays- som ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How did it work for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them > > fast > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile. > > > > > > > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Sibylle- what is the name of the " sticky trap " product you used that worked so well on those moths? blessings- som > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How did it work for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find > them > > > fast > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile. > > > > > > > > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 SOM- Are you going to visit your family or are we going to have to tie you up and ship you. :-) I hope you have a Merry Christmas. I pray for you and others on here every day. You crack me up sometimes and I think it is important to laugh during all of this. I helps to keep us from going crazy. Sib- Thank you for posting I have sent many people to your site at http://www.avianweb.com/bitingmites.html People from this site and other sites. I went to a local bird feeder store that stays busy and they sold my neighbors many many feeders. Maybe where I picked up these mites but anyway I went in there and I waited until all of the customers left because I didn't want to ruin any of there sales. I asked them about bird mites and getting rid of them and they looked at me like I was crazy. I referred them to the birdmites.org site because they seemed clueless and they didn't seem to want to know about my problem. You on the other hand sell bird products and you are willing to help others with our problem. You even post it on your site where it might actually ruin sales for you but you don't care you just want to help us. And I will continue to refer people to your site. If you would like to trade links I would be honored to put your site on my personal website which I never mention here because it is not related to any of this. Just send me an email at ray@... and I will put a link to your site. Even if you don't want to trade links, I'd like to ask you some questions that you can answer whenever you get a chance. Thanks- Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How did it work for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your > homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find > > them > > > > fast > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it- all > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile. > > > > > > > > > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Ray- I do plan on visiting my family and am trying to get up the courage to tell them what is going on. I am glad that my mildly retarded attempts at humor have put an occasional smile on your face and hopefully other's Ray, I do KNOW that laughter is important, especially at times like these.... I guess you didn't like my pheremone post huh? I figured it was probably just my mild retardation rearing it's ugly head again but as Melinda suggested- it doesn't hurt to try... GOD BLESS US ALL SOM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How did it work for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your > > homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find > > > them > > > > > fast > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it- > all > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Sibylle- hey there- I wanted to thank you for your response and helpful information. I am going to look in to this pheremone thing and God willing- we'll get these things out of our lives forever eventually... Also- now, let me see if I have this right- you are only posting in this group to help us and don't even have anything wrong with you? AND as Ray said- at the risk of losing sales for your business??? WOW- thank you sooooooooo much for your time and effort Sibylle. As you may already know- most of us can't even get a doctor to take us seriously or even try to help us in any way so what you're doing is remarkable and truly compassionate in my humble opinion and I think you're a wonderful person for even trying to assist in any way. God bless you, your family and your birds and a very happy holiday to you all. Sincerely- som > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How did it work for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your > homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find > > them > > > > fast > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it- all > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile. > > > > > > > > > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Sib- thank you again for your concern- if there were more people like you in the world everyone would get the help they needed.... I went to your site and was able to get in contact with Dr. Kolb's office in Atlanta who is sending me their protocol for dealing with these things. The lady I spoke to at her office () was very kind and told me that they have people flying in from all over the world seeking help who are suffering from this affliction and said that there were actually 3 people sitting in their waiting room who have this as we spoke. I am very encouraged by this as this doctor seems to be focusing on this problem and is actually in constant contact with the CDC (Center for Disease Control) about this and is trying to get them to recognize it and ultimately do something about it. I am doing cleanses as you suggested (yeast cleanse, full body cleanse, colon cleanse, candida cleanse and heavy metals cleanse) and have changed my diet completely which has made a huge difference in my appearance and the way I feel overall. I am taking " Paraclear " right now which made a big difference at first but it seems as though these things are very resilient and resistant and they are still with me after a month of taking it unfortunately. Apparently these things don't know who they're messing with and are in for a big surprise as I'm tired of feeding them and giving them a free place to stay... You're awesome- please keep up the great work Sib. Ciao- som > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How did it work for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your > > homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find > > > them > > > > > fast > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it- > all > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Ray- to be honest with you- I didn't really buy the pheremone thing when I read your posts about it at first either. I think at some point, we all have probably become very discouraged and negative about all of this and don't believe ANYTHING we hear or read for fear of getting our hopes dashed AGAIN. However, I kept mulling your posts about pheremones over in my little head and every time I thought about it, well, it seemed to make a little more sense until I happened to run in to a doctor who seemed to know what he was talking about (even though he wouldn't admit it and wouldn't let me come to his office- weird huh?) who confirmed your original theory. This is how all bugs communicate and these things are definitely no exception. Now, I am positive that this is how they find us and mark their trails once they've established residency on and in us. Regarding Crystal- she said she is feeling AWESOME. I guess her computer crashed and she can't participate in this forum until she first buys a new car and then is able to afford a new computer. BUMMER! (I think she had a very light case of whatever it was she got and the Cumanda really worked wonders for her which is very cool to know.) I'll tell her you asked about her if I talk to her again... Regarding whether I've kept a journal- it's all in my head and I will put it on paper once things slow down a bit. I know that this experience is happening to me for a very powerful reason Ray and I have to learn what it's trying to teach me.... I TRULY DESPISE THESE THINGS WITH EVERY OUNCE OF ENERGY THAT I HAVE AND I AM GOING TO USE MY ANGER TO OVERCOME THIS SO THAT I CAN HELP OTHER'S TO DO THE SAME. Happy Kwanzaa som > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How did it work for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your > > > homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find > > > > them > > > > > > fast > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know- it- > > all > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mobile. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 Lucylu- I'm glad you are doing better. I was worried about you. you are right security is an important thing. After a while of posting where ever on the net you never know where your email or information will end up. Are they going all the way up in your nasal cavity? Or are they just bothering you around your nose hairs. I used baby oil and tea tree oil all over my nose hairs. I know it is gross but I would us my pinky and put it in there and it helped smoother the ones in my nose. One night they went way up in my nasal cavity and I did a saline nasal rinse and it didn't help and so I added hydrogen peroxide into the saline rinse and it worked but it hurt so bad when it went into my nasal cavity. I could feel it foam up and burn so bad. I had read about that on this site and I hope you never have to do it but it was the last time I ever felt them up that far up in my nasal cavity. I hope all is fine. God bless you and have a Merry Chirstmas. Ray > > > > > > > > > > <<Additionally- could these pheremones be used > > against these > > > things > > > > in order > > > > > to draw them in to a trap of some sort? >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, pheromone traps are fabulous. I have > > birds > > (obviously) > > > > and along > > > > > with birds come seeds and those are often > > infested with moths. > > I > > > > bought a > > > > > pheromone sticky trap and opened it in the > > garage (where the > > seed > > > > was > > > > > stored) and as soon as I tore open the > > plastic, moths came from > > > > EVERWHERE - > > > > > it was SCARY as I was still holding that thing > > in my hands and > > I > > > > felt the > > > > > moths all over me. I placed in on a shelf and > > backed away. > > > > Within 2 days > > > > > all moths were gone and the trap (a sticky > > trap with > > pheromones) > > > > was totally > > > > > plastered with those moths. I would HOPE that > > some researchers > > > are > > > > working > > > > > on this. Pheromones really is the way to go . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sibylle Faye > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. Make your home page. > http://www./r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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