Re: the irrational fears of Mothers

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Sherri

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Janine

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the irrational fears of Mothers

> Hi--here's just my 2 cents. I do not mean this negative in any way but

> Sherrie does not have children. That's just plain and simple--something

> really strange happens to a woman when she becomes a mother, all these

fears

> about the well being of your child surface, all these inadequacies (how do

I

> protect this priceless treasure) a totally self confident woman can turn

> into a whimpering piece of jello when something threatens her child (real

or

> imagined!!)

>

> I could not sleep for a week after Smart was abducted in case

> someone broke into my house and took my baby!! irrational? definitely and

> pretty silly now when I look back at it but those icy fingers of fear just

> grab a mother's heart without warning. We have fears and that's it. As a

> mother I do not live in fear but yes I do have moments of fear it's just

> called being a mom.

>

>

>

> So, please humor us mothers--if anyone feels they can't answer because

the

> fears are ridiculous, that's ok--don't feel either like you have to hold

our

> hands and constantly reassure us but let someone else who has advice offer

> it. Like some did here with info on things to help the immune system.

Those

> of you who have been around for a long time probably feel like " Good grief

> not that stupid question again " but let me tell you when you're a mom just

> starting out on this path of learning about vaccines the world suddenly

> becomes a horrifying place--horror of the diseases (because we've been

> taught to fear them), horrors of the vaccines, horror at what if I make

the

> wrong decision? etc....

>

>

>

> I went through all that and am now on the " other side " the side where my

> homeopathy cupboard is filling up, where Vit C rules where flax oil is in

> the fridge, where I pull out my Miranda Castro book when I'm worried about

> something. The other side is where I no longer fear the diseases, where

I'm

> confident in my decision to not vaccinate my son, where I am able to share

> info with people just starting out, but I still have fears and doubts when

> my baby has a high fever (which I don't " take " anymore either;0) it's

just

> part of being a mom--and us crazy mothers have this illogical fears about

> other subjects too--not just health.

>

>

>

> That being said, I'm not sure that I would have gotten to the " other side "

> if people had told me to get over it, etc in the beginning. I honestly

think

> that if someone hadn't taken the time to point me in the right direction I

> may have quit looking because the looking is scary and we really do need

> someone to hold our hand and tell us we're moving in the right direction

> while we get to the place where we can step over that hump to the " other

> side "

>

>

>

> Sherri, I have printed out all these ear infection studies, and HP

> treatments you've sent and put them in a notebook and I pull them out when

I

> need to look at something. I know too that I have thanked you before and I

> know for a fact that I said this " considering that Sherri doesn't have

> children what she does on the vaccine issue is amazing " so maybe I don't

say

> thank you every single time you post something I already printed and

filed,

> I have said thank you in the past to you personally by email and

publically

> on the list--so don't think that no one appreciates what you do just

> because they don't always post a thank you. I've thanked you and seen

other

> people thank you many times. We all appreciate you.

>

>

>

> Malissa Wi

>

>

>

>

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I don't think the fear of SARS is irrational at all, children or no

children. Hospitals are being completely shut down in some areas of North

America. Why the media is downplaying this is beyond me.

Kathy

_____

From: Malissa Chapin [mailto:chapins61198@...]

Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:49 PM

vaccinations

Hi--here's just my 2 cents. I do not mean this negative in any way but

Sherrie does not have children. That's just plain and simple--something

really strange happens to a woman when she becomes a mother, all these fears

about the well being of your child surface, all these inadequacies (how do I

protect this priceless treasure) a totally self confident woman can turn

into a whimpering piece of jello when something threatens her child (real or

imagined!!)

I could not sleep for a week after Smart was abducted in case

someone broke into my house and took my baby!! irrational? definitely and

pretty silly now when I look back at it but those icy fingers of fear just

grab a mother's heart without warning. We have fears and that's it. As a

mother I do not live in fear but yes I do have moments of fear it's just

called being a mom.

So, please humor us mothers--if anyone feels they can't answer because the

fears are ridiculous, that's ok--don't feel either like you have to hold our

hands and constantly reassure us but let someone else who has advice offer

it. Like some did here with info on things to help the immune system. Those

of you who have been around for a long time probably feel like " Good grief

not that stupid question again " but let me tell you when you're a mom just

starting out on this path of learning about vaccines the world suddenly

becomes a horrifying place--horror of the diseases (because we've been

taught to fear them), horrors of the vaccines, horror at what if I make the

wrong decision? etc....

I went through all that and am now on the " other side " the side where my

homeopathy cupboard is filling up, where Vit C rules where flax oil is in

the fridge, where I pull out my Miranda Castro book when I'm worried about

something. The other side is where I no longer fear the diseases, where I'm

confident in my decision to not vaccinate my son, where I am able to share

info with people just starting out, but I still have fears and doubts when

my baby has a high fever (which I don't " take " anymore either;0) it's just

part of being a mom--and us crazy mothers have this illogical fears about

other subjects too--not just health.

That being said, I'm not sure that I would have gotten to the " other side "

if people had told me to get over it, etc in the beginning. I honestly think

that if someone hadn't taken the time to point me in the right direction I

may have quit looking because the looking is scary and we really do need

someone to hold our hand and tell us we're moving in the right direction

while we get to the place where we can step over that hump to the " other

side "

Sherri, I have printed out all these ear infection studies, and HP

treatments you've sent and put them in a notebook and I pull them out when I

need to look at something. I know too that I have thanked you before and I

know for a fact that I said this " considering that Sherri doesn't have

children what she does on the vaccine issue is amazing " so maybe I don't say

thank you every single time you post something I already printed and filed,

I have said thank you in the past to you personally by email and publically

on the list--so don't think that no one appreciates what you do just

because they don't always post a thank you. I've thanked you and seen other

people thank you many times. We all appreciate you.

Malissa Wi

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" Parents should decide through informed choice, which vaccines if any should

be

given to their children "

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I had to do a lot of deleting so I'm not sure what got us to this point but I

agree Malissa. I've also been saving articles like crazy, have a stocked

cupboard of vit., herbal infusions, remedies, and 2 homeopaths I've seen, but

even the past week when my children got chicken pox (I exposed them) I began to

worry a bit about " Oh s**t. What if one of them doesn't do well and they were

to die of something I could have prevented possibly with a vaccine that they may

or may not have reacted to " Of course they both had NO problems and their good

immune systems got them through but doubts do pop up often. That is why I stay

on this list to get reinforcements of why I'm doing this and support. Us old

timers have to guide the upcoming batch of parents without alienating them or

belittling their natural protecting my child instincts. It is hard to unlearn

all you thought was good in the past that doctors have told us.

L.

Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00

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----- Original . That's just plain and simple--something

really strange happens to a woman when she becomes a mother, all these fears

about the well being of your child surface, all these inadequacies (how do I

protect this priceless treasure) a totally self confident woman can turn

into a whimpering piece of jello when something threatens her child (real or

imagined!!)

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I have no doubts in my mind whatsoever that anything that comes across my path

healthwise can be dealt with, either homeopathically or intravenous vitamin C.

Jo,

How and where would you get intravenous vit. C? I've asked this before to the

group and I don't remember getting a reply.

L.

Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00

Talk with other hip mom's about attachment parenting at

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In WI, USA.

Re: the irrational fears of Mothers

,

Where are you?

Joanna

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Hi Jen,

Just curious - how are you kids doing with the chicken pox???? When

my nephews, who live on the West coast, came down with it - first I

was surprised 'cause they aren't young children and the second thing

to come out of my mouth was, " Good for them, now they will get it

over with and have lifetime immunity " ...much to the horror of my

sister-in-law...they are both doing wonderfully and their immune

systems are going strong.

-OH

-- In Vaccinations , " & Troy Lucas "

<lucasjt@m...> wrote:

> I had to do a lot of deleting so I'm not sure what got us to this

point but I agree Malissa. I've also been saving articles like

crazy, have a stocked cupboard of vit., herbal infusions, remedies,

and 2 homeopaths I've seen, but even the past week when my children

got chicken pox (I exposed them) I began to worry a bit about " Oh

s**t. What if one of them doesn't do well and they were to die of

something I could have prevented possibly with a vaccine that they

may or may not have reacted to " Of course they both had NO problems

and their good immune systems got them through but doubts do pop up

often. That is why I stay on this list to get reinforcements of why

I'm doing this and support. Us old timers have to guide the

upcoming batch of parents without alienating them or belittling

their natural protecting my child instincts. It is hard to unlearn

all you thought was good in the past that doctors have told us.

>

> L.

> Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00

>

> Talk with other hip mom's about attachment parenting at

> milwaukeeAPmoms-subscribe

>

>

> ----- Original . That's just plain and simple--something

> really strange happens to a woman when she becomes a mother, all

these fears

> about the well being of your child surface, all these

inadequacies (how do I

> protect this priceless treasure) a totally self confident woman

can turn

> into a whimpering piece of jello when something threatens her

child (real or

> imagined!!)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-You know...i just wanted to add. Ive been on this list for a long

while. And i also appreciate sherri also for all of her information

and time that she devotes to this list and to the cause. I also have

to say that i dont post often...why? I have nothing to add among one

of my reasons. I dont tend to freak out with regards to

diseases...neither of my children are vaccinated and neither have ever

been on abx etc. I dont take them to the doc that often.....i just

avoid all of it so its not like im a novice here. But, having said

that, i just *feel* like there is something else regarding this SARS

thing. Ever since i first heard of it ive been feeling unsettled.

There is something not right about what is happening....and i dont

think that this is run of the mill stuff. I am a healthcare worker

btw...and i dont happen to think that doctors are evil. Misguided

perhaps...but not evil money grubbing monsters. Thats my rant.

christina

-- In Vaccinations , " KathyM " <milne@b...> wrote:

> I don't think the fear of SARS is irrational at all, children or no

> children. Hospitals are being completely shut down in some areas of

North

> America. Why the media is downplaying this is beyond me.

>

> Kathy

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Malissa Chapin [mailto:chapins61198@h...]

> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:49 PM

> vaccinations

>

>

> Hi--here's just my 2 cents. I do not mean this negative in any way but

> Sherrie does not have children. That's just plain and

simple--something

> really strange happens to a woman when she becomes a mother, all

these fears

>

> about the well being of your child surface, all these inadequacies

(how do I

>

> protect this priceless treasure) a totally self confident woman can

turn

> into a whimpering piece of jello when something threatens her child

(real or

>

> imagined!!)

>

> I could not sleep for a week after Smart was abducted in case

> someone broke into my house and took my baby!! irrational?

definitely and

> pretty silly now when I look back at it but those icy fingers of

fear just

> grab a mother's heart without warning. We have fears and that's it.

As a

> mother I do not live in fear but yes I do have moments of fear it's

just

> called being a mom.

>

>

>

> So, please humor us mothers--if anyone feels they can't answer

because the

> fears are ridiculous, that's ok--don't feel either like you have to

hold our

>

> hands and constantly reassure us but let someone else who has advice

offer

> it. Like some did here with info on things to help the immune

system. Those

>

> of you who have been around for a long time probably feel like " Good

grief

> not that stupid question again " but let me tell you when you're a

mom just

> starting out on this path of learning about vaccines the world suddenly

> becomes a horrifying place--horror of the diseases (because we've been

> taught to fear them), horrors of the vaccines, horror at what if I

make the

> wrong decision? etc....

>

>

>

> I went through all that and am now on the " other side " the side

where my

> homeopathy cupboard is filling up, where Vit C rules where flax oil

is in

> the fridge, where I pull out my Miranda Castro book when I'm worried

about

> something. The other side is where I no longer fear the diseases,

where I'm

> confident in my decision to not vaccinate my son, where I am able to

share

> info with people just starting out, but I still have fears and

doubts when

> my baby has a high fever (which I don't " take " anymore either;0)

it's just

> part of being a mom--and us crazy mothers have this illogical fears

about

> other subjects too--not just health.

>

>

>

> That being said, I'm not sure that I would have gotten to the " other

side "

> if people had told me to get over it, etc in the beginning. I

honestly think

>

> that if someone hadn't taken the time to point me in the right

direction I

> may have quit looking because the looking is scary and we really do

need

> someone to hold our hand and tell us we're moving in the right

direction

> while we get to the place where we can step over that hump to the

" other

> side "

>

>

>

> Sherri, I have printed out all these ear infection studies, and HP

> treatments you've sent and put them in a notebook and I pull them

out when I

>

> need to look at something. I know too that I have thanked you before

and I

> know for a fact that I said this " considering that Sherri doesn't have

> children what she does on the vaccine issue is amazing " so maybe I

don't say

>

> thank you every single time you post something I already printed and

filed,

> I have said thank you in the past to you personally by email and

publically

> on the list--so don't think that no one appreciates what you do just

> because they don't always post a thank you. I've thanked you and

seen other

> people thank you many times. We all appreciate you.

>

>

>

> Malissa Wi

>

>

>

>

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At 03:02 PM 03/28/2003 -0000, you wrote:

>-You know...i just wanted to add. Ive been on this list for a long

>while. And i also appreciate sherri also for all of her information

>and time that she devotes to this list and to the cause. I also have

>to say that i dont post often...why? I have nothing to add among one

>of my reasons. I dont tend to freak out with regards to

>diseases...neither of my children are vaccinated and neither have ever

>been on abx etc. I dont take them to the doc that often.....i just

>avoid all of it so its not like im a novice here. But, having said

>that, i just *feel* like there is something else regarding this SARS

>thing. Ever since i first heard of it ive been feeling unsettled.

>There is something not right about what is happening....and i dont

>think that this is run of the mill stuff. I am a healthcare worker

>btw...and i dont happen to think that doctors are evil. Misguided

>perhaps...but not evil money grubbing monsters. Thats my rant.

>christina

And you may be right.

Maybe the US is biologically attacking Canada because they aren't falling

all over the US attacks on Iraq and supporting them.

Think about it.

I don't know either.

Maybe you are right.

Just trying to caution about getting caught up in it.

And to be prepared. What I see on this list all the time, is people don't

prepare for their children to be sick. They panic.

You have to inform yourself, learn homeopathy, have a homeopath or a

practitioner you trust - be prepared. Don't wait till the middle of hte

night when your child is sick. PLAN AHEAD.

Good luck htere in Canada and keep us posted.

Sheri

>

>

>-- In Vaccinations , " KathyM " <milne@b...> wrote:

>> I don't think the fear of SARS is irrational at all, children or no

>> children. Hospitals are being completely shut down in some areas of

>North

>> America. Why the media is downplaying this is beyond me.

>>

>> Kathy

>>

>>

>> _____

>>

>> From: Malissa Chapin [mailto:chapins61198@h...]

>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:49 PM

>> vaccinations

>>

>>

>> Hi--here's just my 2 cents. I do not mean this negative in any way but

>> Sherrie does not have children. That's just plain and

>simple--something

>> really strange happens to a woman when she becomes a mother, all

>these fears

>>

>> about the well being of your child surface, all these inadequacies

>(how do I

>>

>> protect this priceless treasure) a totally self confident woman can

>turn

>> into a whimpering piece of jello when something threatens her child

>(real or

>>

>> imagined!!)

>>

>> I could not sleep for a week after Smart was abducted in case

>> someone broke into my house and took my baby!! irrational?

>definitely and

>> pretty silly now when I look back at it but those icy fingers of

>fear just

>> grab a mother's heart without warning. We have fears and that's it.

>As a

>> mother I do not live in fear but yes I do have moments of fear it's

>just

>> called being a mom.

>>

>>

>>

>> So, please humor us mothers--if anyone feels they can't answer

>because the

>> fears are ridiculous, that's ok--don't feel either like you have to

>hold our

>>

>> hands and constantly reassure us but let someone else who has advice

>offer

>> it. Like some did here with info on things to help the immune

>system. Those

>>

>> of you who have been around for a long time probably feel like " Good

>grief

>> not that stupid question again " but let me tell you when you're a

>mom just

>> starting out on this path of learning about vaccines the world suddenly

>> becomes a horrifying place--horror of the diseases (because we've been

>> taught to fear them), horrors of the vaccines, horror at what if I

>make the

>> wrong decision? etc....

>>

>>

>>

>> I went through all that and am now on the " other side " the side

>where my

>> homeopathy cupboard is filling up, where Vit C rules where flax oil

>is in

>> the fridge, where I pull out my Miranda Castro book when I'm worried

>about

>> something. The other side is where I no longer fear the diseases,

>where I'm

>> confident in my decision to not vaccinate my son, where I am able to

>share

>> info with people just starting out, but I still have fears and

>doubts when

>> my baby has a high fever (which I don't " take " anymore either;0)

>it's just

>> part of being a mom--and us crazy mothers have this illogical fears

>about

>> other subjects too--not just health.

>>

>>

>>

>> That being said, I'm not sure that I would have gotten to the " other

>side "

>> if people had told me to get over it, etc in the beginning. I

>honestly think

>>

>> that if someone hadn't taken the time to point me in the right

>direction I

>> may have quit looking because the looking is scary and we really do

>need

>> someone to hold our hand and tell us we're moving in the right

>direction

>> while we get to the place where we can step over that hump to the

> " other

>> side "

>>

>>

>>

>> Sherri, I have printed out all these ear infection studies, and HP

>> treatments you've sent and put them in a notebook and I pull them

>out when I

>>

>> need to look at something. I know too that I have thanked you before

>and I

>> know for a fact that I said this " considering that Sherri doesn't have

>> children what she does on the vaccine issue is amazing " so maybe I

>don't say

>>

>> thank you every single time you post something I already printed and

>filed,

>> I have said thank you in the past to you personally by email and

>publically

>> on the list--so don't think that no one appreciates what you do just

>> because they don't always post a thank you. I've thanked you and

>seen other

>> people thank you many times. We all appreciate you.

>>

>>

>>

>> Malissa Wi

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Knowledge is power. I used to double giess myself but the more I learn, the

more conventional frightens me! I took Sheri's HP course and have a HP for

just in case. I was a little concened earlier this year wgen dh diagnosed

ds's blisters on palms and soles of feet as Foot and Mouth disease but was

concerned for fetus. I was past 3 months I think and ready to mega dose on

the Vit A and C. MW said there had been no cases of fetal damge to women

exposed. HP (x dermatologist) disageed with dh's diagnosis! His blisters

were causing him pain and there was swelling. Then the blisters spread all

over pretty much. HP decided it was reaction to new remedy. This was just

b4 Thanksgiving so Ididn't want to expose inlaws but not much I could do

with immediate family! I decided to trust HP and disagreed with dh as there

were no mouth blisters. Finally the blisters went away and he started to

peel. I guess what I am saying is that I was prepared and altho concerned,

not freaked as Iknew what I needed to do.

Laurie>OH

but doubts do pop up often. It is hard to unlearn all you thought was

good in the past that doctors have told us.

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MW said there had been no cases of fetal damge to women

exposed.

Man, I would have been in some serious trouble had I thought that there was a

potential for damage ....

When I was pregnant with #2... I worked in a daycare center, in an infant room.

I would venture to say they all had HF & M the spring I was pregnant (Chase was

born in June).

Sometimes, ignorance is bliss LOL I am glad that there haven't damage due to

it.

in IL