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" I would be very interested myself if there has been a product

invented that could actually help receding gums to grow back;

so if you find out about something that really works, please post

your findings here! "

I belive there has been advances that help receding gums - Genigel.

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Hi -

Could you also comment on mouth guards? I have bad recession and it's

progressing. I have been wearing this stupid mouth guard at night for quite a

while as my dentist claims that clenching and grinding causes movement which

contributes to recession. My recession has continued in spite of wearing this

thing.

Thanks

Kathy

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Date: Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:24am(PDT)

Subject: Gum recession

Hi there

sorry to hear about your gums

are you finding that your teeth are getting very sensitive especially to cold

things?

I am a qualified dental nurse although its years since I have been well enough

to work, and I can only speak personally of course, but so far have not heard of

any way of regenerating lost gum tissue.I was told that you can prevent any

further gum recession by careful regular oral hygiene, twice daily use of

dental floss and anti-plaque

mouthwashes....dentists usually say that its the presence of plaque on the teeth

that causes the gums to react by receding away from it.I have a little gum

recession myself nowadays and it can be very sore indeed; so I use a good

toothpaste designed specifically for SENSITIVE teeth. These 'sensitive'

toothpastes work really well, by sealing up the tiny little tubes in your teeth

that have become exposed as the gum

shrinks back.It is very possible that there have been advances in gumcare since

I

was a professional; so dont just take my word for it, I would say ask your

dentist because he is the expert. (I am going to ask mine next time I see him

too)

I would be very interested myself if there has been a product invented that

could actually help receding gums to grow back; so if you find out about

something that really works, please post your findings here!

all the best

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> I was told that you can prevent any further gum recession by careful

> regular oral hygiene, twice daily use of dental floss and anti-plaque

> mouthwashes....

>

> I would be very interested myself if there has been a product

> invented that could actually help receding gums to grow back;

> so if you find out about something that really works, please post

> your findings here!

>

I have had some success regrowing gum tissue, but mine wasn't horrible

to start with (although I did have two " 5 " pockets and a number of

" 4s " ). Here's what I think did the trick:

1) taking at least 100 mg CoQ10 daily, preferably more. I have taken as

much as 300 mg BID in stretches.

2) using a Sonicare toothbrush instead of a manual one (my dentist

recommends them). I got my first electric toothbrush 20 years ago when

I developed carpal tunnel problems, but the Sonicare Elite I now have is

way better than the first ones I had. Just be careful not to use too

much pressure, just keep it moving and let the toothbrush do the work.

3) switched to Life Extension Foundation's toothpaste. You can look up

the ingredients list on www.lef.org. I know it has CoQ10 in it. I know

this toothpaste really works because I switched to another one recently,

and in less than a week my gums were all achy and sensitive again.

Switched back to the LEF's toothpaste, and in 2 days I was better.

I couldn't tolerate the anti-plaque mouthwashes, although I do

occasionally use the Therabreath " Oxyd8 " mouthwash. And my flossing is

a bit haphazard, mostly done with picks rather than floss (easier on my

fibromyalgic shoulders). But my dental hygienist and dentist both tell

me I'm taking excellent care of my teeth, so I must be doing something

right.

Hope this helps! (NAYY...)

--

el (andreafrankel at sbcglobal dot net)

" wake now! Discover that YOU are the song that the morning brings... "

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Bruxism is said to be associated with gum recession (I have had bad gum

recession that, at one time, was supposed to need surgery - gum transplants.

Even the roots were becoming exposed. I am a long time bruxer)

I started using the Waterpik years ago and the recession was halted (I guess due

to the massaging action, and perhaps by increasing the blood flow to those

areas, it helped maintain the gum tissue?) The deep pockets went away. I

stopped using medium to hard-bristled brushes (which I thought would be good for

teeth), and instead used soft bristled brushes and got a new one each month.

Then I added the Sonicaire Elite - great product (but I added this only in the

past few years, and my gum recession had stopped long before then, when I

started the Waterpik (or you could use another brand irrigation system). The

Elite really does a much better job that a manual toothbrush (and reaches into

the crevices)

WIth a waterpik, your gums might hurt when you first start (perhaps even

bleed?), so you might want to start on a pretty low setting and work up.

I have heard that clorhexidine is helpful in controlling gum disease; it is

found in some mouthwashes, some of them available at dentists' offices only. Les

PS: I have often wondered that, if by wearing a bruxism guard at night, if the

plastic part of the appliance is pushing up at our gums, and thus worsens the

recession.

Gum recession

Hi there

sorry to hear about your gums

are you finding that your teeth are getting very sensitive especially to cold

things?

I am a qualified dental nurse although its years since I have been well enough

to work, and I can only speak personally of course, but so far have not heard of

any way of regenerating lost gum tissue.I was told that you can prevent any

further gum recession by careful regular oral hygiene, twice daily use of

dental floss and anti-plaque

mouthwashes....dentists usually say that its the presence of plaque on the

teeth

that causes the gums to react by receding away from it.I have a little gum

recession myself nowadays and it can be very sore indeed; so I use a good

toothpaste designed specifically for SENSITIVE teeth. These 'sensitive'

toothpastes work really well, by sealing up the tiny little tubes in your teeth

that have become exposed as the gum

shrinks back.It is very possible that there have been advances in gumcare

since I

was a professional; so dont just take my word for it, I would say ask your

dentist because he is the expert. (I am going to ask mine next time I see him

too)

I would be very interested myself if there has been a product invented that

could actually help receding gums to grow back; so if you find out about

something that really works, please post your findings here!

all the best

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Hi Kathy

I am sorry I havent heard of this idea before before so I dont know,

and I dont know much about mouth guards in general either,

however, I have heard that people using mouthguards or braces at

night do need to be extra careful with their oral hygiene otherwise

gum disease could occur as a result of using them.

I see no real reason why your gums should recede any further if you

are following a truly effective oral hygiene routine ; as far as I

know this should be entirely sufficient.

I have heard that Bruxism, or tooth grinding at night, can cause jaw

ache and even toothache as well, but I have never heard any dentist

suggesting to their patient that it could cause gum disease.

But please dont forget I cant give medical advice here and you must

not just take my word for anything...you must ask a professional ok?

Is he ensuring that you get regular scale and polish sessions and

helping you with your oral hygiene routine?

has he explained to you about the use of disclosing tablets so that

you can see the areas you may be missing?

sometimes it can even be as simple as a matter of the wrong

toothbrush, if your toothbrush bristles are too short, or even if

your toothbrush is too hard, then it wont be able to get right in and

remove the plaque from the vulnerable areas between the teeth.

But if you dont trust your dentist Kathy, maybe it would be a good

idea to find another one and get a second opinion?

I dont know how you feel, but my teeth are very important to me, I

dont fancy wearing a full plastic set clackety-clack lol

all the best

yvonne x

>

> Hi -

>

> Could you also comment on mouth guards? I have bad recession and

it's progressing. I have been wearing this stupid mouth guard at

night for quite a while as my dentist claims that clenching and

grinding causes movement which contributes to recession. My

recession has continued in spite of wearing this thing.

>

> Thanks

> Kathy

>

>

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Hi

I think you might have got a point there about the mouth guard itself

possibly pushing up against the gums and not helping, but I still

think it is far more likely that the actual wearing of the guard

could be causing a collection of bacteria around the gums at night.

When I was taught at college, and during my experience in the dental

surgery, there has always been one sure fire treatment for gum

disease, that is effective oral hygiene, and one major cause of gum

disease, ineffective oral hygiene.

That doesnt mean that people are dirty, but sometimes we can think

we are getting our teeth clean but we just arent doing it well enough

for some reason.

Healthy gums are pale pink and firm and they dont bleed when you

brush your teeth, when you look closely the surface of the gums

should be rough and slightly stippled.

If your gums bleed easily, if they are soft, maybe even bright pink

and shiny or puffy, then you will need to review your oral hygiene

routine, in my experience at least.

You are the second person today to associate bruxism with gum

recession, I have honestly never ever heard this theory mentioned

ever before in all my years and training as a dental nurse.

I cant even see logically and physically how grinding your teeth

could affect the gums in any way,

That doesnt mean your dentist hasnt said it though, are you guys over

in the USA?

perhaps it is an idea that is more popular with dentists overseas?

in any case, as I have said before, you definitely must NOT take my

word for anything, for treatment of gum disease you will need to get

a dentists professional opinion.

all the best x

>

> Bruxism is said to be associated with gum recession (I have had bad

gum recession that, at one time, was supposed to need surgery - gum

transplants. Even the roots were becoming exposed. I am a long time

bruxer)

> I started using the Waterpik years ago and the recession was halted

(I guess due to the massaging action, and perhaps by increasing the

blood flow to those areas, it helped maintain the gum tissue?) The

deep pockets went away. I stopped using medium to hard-bristled

brushes (which I thought would be good for teeth), and instead used

soft bristled brushes and got a new one each month.

> Then I added the Sonicaire Elite - great product (but I added this

only in the past few years, and my gum recession had stopped long

before then, when I started the Waterpik (or you could use another

brand irrigation system). The Elite really does a much better job

that a manual toothbrush (and reaches into the crevices)

> WIth a waterpik, your gums might hurt when you first start (perhaps

even bleed?), so you might want to start on a pretty low setting and

work up.

> I have heard that clorhexidine is helpful in controlling gum

disease; it is found in some mouthwashes, some of them available at

dentists' offices only. Les PS: I have often wondered that, if by

wearing a bruxism guard at night, if the plastic part of the

appliance is pushing up at our gums, and thus worsens the recession.

> Gum recession

>

> Hi there

> sorry to hear about your gums

> are you finding that your teeth are getting very sensitive

especially to cold things?

> I am a qualified dental nurse although its years since I have

been well enough to work, and I can only speak personally of course,

but so far have not heard of any way of regenerating lost gum

tissue.I was told that you can prevent any further gum recession by

careful regular oral hygiene, twice daily use of dental floss and

anti-plaque

> mouthwashes....dentists usually say that its the presence of

plaque on the teeth

> that causes the gums to react by receding away from it.I have a

little gum recession myself nowadays and it can be very sore indeed;

so I use a good toothpaste designed specifically for SENSITIVE teeth.

These 'sensitive' toothpastes work really well, by sealing up the

tiny little tubes in your teeth that have become exposed as the gum

> shrinks back.It is very possible that there have been advances in

gumcare since I

> was a professional; so dont just take my word for it, I would say

ask your dentist because he is the expert. (I am going to ask mine

next time I see him too)

> I would be very interested myself if there has been a product

invented that could actually help receding gums to grow back; so if

you find out about something that really works, please post your

findings here!

> all the best

>

>

>

>

>

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I was fitted for a ($350.00) mouth guard from my dentist about 5

years ago. I had previously had to have 2 back (cavity-less) teeth

pulled from vertically breaking them from clenching at night.

The extractions were unpleasant becuase the oral surgeon side I have

way more bone in my jaw than most women in their fifties (from

clenching I presume) and the teeth don't come out easily because of

that.

I'm so used to the mouth guard now- I can hardly fall asleep without

it.

I do pay particular attention to cleaning it (in clorox) when I have

a cold or feel sick - but other wise I just brush it with my

toothbrush once per day (in the am) with baking sode and H2O2.

No broken teeth since I've started wearing it (knocking on wood).

Barb

> >

> > Hi -

> >

> > Could you also comment on mouth guards? I have bad recession

and

> it's progressing. I have been wearing this stupid mouth guard at

> night for quite a while as my dentist claims that clenching and

> grinding causes movement which contributes to recession. My

> recession has continued in spite of wearing this thing.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Kathy

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hello! I've had dentures for fifty years so I'm not much experienced with gum

disease, but there are two things that will definitely help...a Sonicare

toothbrush used on teeth and gums twice daily and, if my memory hasn't failed

me, CoQ10. Mel

Gum recession

>

> Hi there

> sorry to hear about your gums

> are you finding that your teeth are getting very sensitive

especially to cold things?

> I am a qualified dental nurse although its years since I have

been well enough to work, and I can only speak personally of course,

but so far have not heard of any way of regenerating lost gum

tissue.I was told that you can prevent any further gum recession by

careful regular oral hygiene, twice daily use of dental floss and

anti-plaque

> mouthwashes....dentists usually say that its the presence of

plaque on the teeth

> that causes the gums to react by receding away from it.I have a

little gum recession myself nowadays and it can be very sore indeed;

so I use a good toothpaste designed specifically for SENSITIVE teeth.

These 'sensitive' toothpastes work really well, by sealing up the

tiny little tubes in your teeth that have become exposed as the gum

> shrinks back.It is very possible that there have been advances in

gumcare since I

> was a professional; so dont just take my word for it, I would say

ask your dentist because he is the expert. (I am going to ask mine

next time I see him too)

> I would be very interested myself if there has been a product

invented that could actually help receding gums to grow back; so if

you find out about something that really works, please post your

findings here!

> all the best

>

>

>

>

>

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Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min.

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hi i also have gum recession and i found switching to a electric

toothbrush has stengthened my gums and reduced my plaque so i guess it is

helping me from not getting infections in my reccessed gums..i also use

xylitol power swish in my mouth when i am too lazy to brush: its anti

bacterial and use a xylitol toothpaste as well , also avoiding flouride

...i no longer have sentivities to hot or cold... both help alot tealk

> [Original Message]

> From: <simplicity46@...>

> < >

> Date: 4/23/2006 9:24:29 AM

> Subject: Gum recession

>

> Hi there

>

> sorry to hear about your gums

>

> are you finding that your teeth are getting very sensitive

> especially to cold things?

>

> I am a qualified dental nurse although its years since I have been

> well enough to work, and I can only speak personally of course, but

> so far have not heard of any way of regenerating lost gum tissue.

>

> I was told that you can prevent any further gum recession by careful

> regular oral hygiene, twice daily use of dental floss and anti-plaque

> mouthwashes....

> dentists usually say that its the presence of plaque on the teeth

> that causes the gums to react by receding away from it.

>

> I have a little gum recession myself nowadays and it can be very sore

> indeed;

> so I use a good toothpaste designed specifically for SENSITIVE teeth.

> These 'sensitive' toothpastes work really well, by sealing up the

> tiny little tubes in your teeth that have become exposed as the gum

> shrinks back.

>

> It is very possible that there have been advances in gumcare since I

> was a professional; so dont just take my word for it, I would say ask

> your dentist because he is the expert.

> (I am going to ask mine next time I see him too)

>

> I would be very interested myself if there has been a product

> invented that could actually help receding gums to grow back;

> so if you find out about something that really works, please post

> your findings here!

>

> all the best

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

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Hi Tealk,

I had to reply to your post today because you are NOT 'lazy' -you are

ill!

With an illness like ours, even on a good day toothbrushing counts as

an 'activity';

and on a bad day it is definitely not your fault if you are too ill

to drag your poor aching body out to the bathroom to clean your

teeth.

I have found that electric toothbrushes dont do all that thorough a

job myself but its very possible that I have been trying the wrong

make?

But I still think using an electric toothbrush is definitely far

better than nothing and can be a great tool, especially if your hands

and arms are very painful, or when you are weak and find brushing

hard work.

What is a xylitol power swish, is it a mouthwash? if so I agree its

definitely also much better than nothing.

Just my own personal opinion, of course.

But please remember that when you are too ill to clean your teeth,

YOU ARE NOT LAZY ok?

my very best wishes

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> > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

with

> each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in

any

> treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> >

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