/Dr. Schaller...demonization of klonopin...moving on...

[Guest guest]

Hi , Dr. Schaller, and all:

With all due sincere respect, I was not trying to demonize klonopin. I'm taking

it myself!

My point was just that however it may be helping us now, it may -- emphasize MAY

-- be

keeping us sicker for longer. And then again, it may not. I don't know. I

just wanted

people who may think it's totally benign as Cheney almost implies, that perhaps

--

perhaps -- it isn't.

In my own personal quest towards health, I try to find the reasons my brain is

being

overstimulated or can't handle overstimulation, and look to certain stimulating

amino

acids and foods that contain them that I may be eating that may contribute to

that. Most

of the american diet is LOADED with chemical additives like MSG, aspartame, and

artificial

colors and flavors that are known to cause this overstimulation...

Anyway, I'm with Marcia, let's move on to another topic, and a " better " day!

Dan

>

> Thank you Dr Shaller. I am faced daily with the demonization of much of

> the pain medication I am on. The DEA ( with the War on Drugs and under

> the wing of Homeland Security) has created a climate of fear among

> doctors who treat pain because they are being watched - a doctor told

> me it is like big brother is watching every move they make when it

> comes to strong pain meds. If one has pain that is acute, as it is in

> my case, it is the kind of pain that if untreated, someone may choose

> to end their life. I am on a round the clock protocol of morphine. My

> primary doctor of 15 years said he was too afraid to care for my pain

> issues because he could lose his license. I moved on, sadly, to a

> doctor who has an understanding of pain and has treated my pain

> rationally. Yet he is now being pressured to pass me on to a pain

> clinic who will want me to exercise.

> That is not possible as I am homebound and bed-bound. There is this

> irrational fear of these drugs. Don't judge a person until you have

> walked a mile in their shoes.

>

> In the case of klonopin, I was tortured by light and sound and klonopin

> saved me from that hell ( thank you Dr Cheney), as well as my family

> who had to modify their lives for how I suffered. Thank God for

> klonopin, and for all we go through with this disease, when there is a

> cure for my subset of CFIDS. I will face what ever I have to do to come

> of klonopin. For the time being, I am thankful there is a drug that can

> help improve the quality of a very challenging life.

>

> Just as few of the well understand CFIDS, few PWCFIDS understand some

> of the most severe scenarios of misery. We should be worried about our

> rights for adequate pain management, and access to these useful drugs.

>

> Sincerely,

> L

>

>

>

> Dr Shaller said: " So glad that folks with panic attacks, social

> anxiety and seizures should

> feel like losers and fear the demon drug Klonopin. The DEA would be

> pleased.

>

> Now lets remove all pain medications because of the 50 side effects

> possible

> and let folks with rotting joints suffer and long for death.

>

> There is a reason 99% of docs will not treat pain, and it is not

> medical

> science, which advocates full chronic pain control, but fear of folks

> making

> comments like these about Benzo's and " hooking someone " in an evil and

> sociopathic manner. Keep it up and folks will have even higher suicide

> rates

> from anxiety......

>

> Oh yes, anxiety of the type I have mentions has a MASSIVE impact of

> suicide

> rates. "

>

> Dr. Schaller

>

>

> > We like to think that the major problem with Klonopin will only be

> > seen if we try to get off it - it is tough to impossible to get off

> > without serious difficulty.

> >

> > ***If one has trouble decreasing 10% a week, it is not the mere

> > medication

> > and addressed this before. I wean folks off these medications every

> > week,

> > but harder in sick folks with medical issues promoting anxiety.

> > Anxiety

> > disorders are the top medical and neurocognitive problems in

> > medicine. One

> > can pathologize that in the same way folks mock FM, but I think that

> > is an

> > error.

> >

> > But there is an even more serious possibility with Klonopin if it

> > suppresses the immune system.

> >

> > ***Drug side effect lists which are the kind I like ALL have these

> > immune

> > and other side effects listed below. I have never seen any

> > benzodiazapine

> > drop any of these.

> > ***I would think that the average high potency standardized German or

> > Swiss

> > herb has at least the same number of side effects possible from one

> > of my

> > 200.00 herbal texts.

> > *** Vit A and B6 at some doses can be dangerous.  Avoid?

> >

> > This is similar to the problems with steroids

> > ***Comparing any benzodoazapine to the MASSIVE effects of steriods is

> > word

> > play and not medical reality. At best comparing a panfish to a whale.

> >

> > Here is the drug insert for Klonopin from Roche.

> >

> > ***The PDR drug inserts give lists of things one never sees or things

> > on

> > should have added which are not present in the list. Any physician

> > who uses

> > the PDF for anything other than drug company addresses and pill

> > identification, and uses these approved advertisements as their

> > medical book

> > is 20 years behind the times and is not a solid pharmacologist.

> >

> > ***The PDR is like learning about essential oils or herbal medicine

> > from

> > your local produce person. Or Xenotoxins from the local pest control

> > worker.

> All a sane man can ever care about is giving love.

> ~Hafiz

>

>

[Guest guest]

thanks mjh, I will give it a read. Some time I will try to articulate

the traumatic pain that I have to take the morphine for. You may have

some ideas - but I'm tired and off to bed for now.

Thanks for your good thoughts,

L

On Apr 9, 2006, at 11:54 PM, foxhillers@... wrote:

>

>

> Dan and all

>

> RUssell Blaylock, MD wrote an excellent book called Excitotoxins: 

> the 

> tastes that kill.

>

> My brain is the same way, but much better now than ten years ago when

> even  a

> ringing phone caused acute body pain and I would fall over walking in

> the 

> field when the air density changed.

>

> Hope this helps

> mjh

>

> From: " kdrbrill " <kdrbrill@...>

> Subject: /Dr.  Schaller...demonization of klonopin...moving on...

>

>

> In my own  personal quest towards health, I try to find the reasons

> my brain

> is being 

> overstimulated or can't handle overstimulation, and look to certain 

> stimulating amino

> acids and foods that contain them that I may be eating  that may

> contribute

> to that.  Most

> of the american diet is LOADED  with chemical additives like MSG,

> aspartame,

> and artificial

> colors and  flavors that are known to cause this overstimulation...

>

> Anyway, I'm  with Marcia, let's move on to another topic, and a

> " better "   day!

>

> Dan

>

>

>

>

>

> mjh

> " The  Basil  Book "

> http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

>

>

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