Re: Anti-Inflammatory Diet Good for CFS?

March 1, 2006

Hi

The High protein diet tends to help people with CFS. Trying cutting back on

carbs / wheat / dairy and fruits.

Regards

CS

March 1, 2006

Tina

My body needs high quality proteins and selected fats and my inflammation

significantly decreased with fish oil daily.

In a message dated 3/1/06 10:49:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tli10022@... writes:

Dr. Flemming who wrote Stop Inflmmation Now book recommends limiting

the intake of animal protein and fats to 15% plus appropriate

supplements and exercises. Although the audience is general public at

risk of many common inflammatory illnesses such as heart diseases,

diabetes, cancer, and auto-immunity, etc., I can relate to the

rationale of plant foods curb inflammation. I do have a big time

inflammation problem wtih CFS, a common problem among us.

Has anyone tried the diet? Effects on CFS? Any vegans out there?

Regards.

Tina

March 1, 2006

Hi

to be honest I have cut them out- but I will be adding the oats shortly as

my carb-digestive function seems to have improved.

Regards

CS

March 1, 2006

In a message dated 3/2/06 1:02:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

dawnmunn@... writes:

Just curious, do you have any trouble with rye, oats, or barley? I don't

eat wheat, but have also found these grains to be toxic to my body. I only

ask because your diet sounds so similar to mine.

Dawn

March 1, 2006

email sent.

Regards

CS

March 1, 2006

They all contain gluten.....

In a message dated 3/2/06 1:02:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

dawnmunn@... writes:

Just curious, do you have any trouble with rye, oats, or barley? I don't

eat wheat, but have also found these grains to be toxic to my body. I only

ask because your diet sounds so similar to mine.

Dawn

March 1, 2006

Just curious, do you have any trouble with rye, oats, or barley? I don't

eat wheat, but have also found these grains to be toxic to my body. I only

ask because your diet sounds so similar to mine.

Dawn

>Hi

>

>The High protein diet tends to help people with CFS. Trying cutting back on

>carbs / wheat / dairy and fruits.

>

>Regards

>CS

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March 1, 2006

I am new here and have missed a lot of why you are on this diet and how it

is helping. I would love it if you would be willing to email me personally

and explain it in more detail. If you have already done that, could you

direct me to the posts that I should read? Again, I am comparing the

similarities in our diets and wondering if you know something I don't.

Maybe there is just one small element I am missing or something.

Thanks,

Dawn

>Hi

>

>to be honest I have cut them out- but I will be adding the oats shortly

>as

>my carb-digestive function seems to have improved.

>

>Regards

>CS

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March 1, 2006

Hi, Dawn.

Have you been tested for celiac disease? Some PWCs have this, and are

genetically unable to tolerate these grains because they contain

gluten. In addition, it is found in autism that many of the kids,

even though they don't have celiac disease, are still not able to

tolerate gluten because of damage to the enzyme in the gut that

digests gluten. Likewise, they can't tolerate the casein in milk for

the same reason. This has led to the use of the GFCF (gluten-free,

casein-free) diet in autism. As you may know, there are many

parallels between autism and CFS, I believe owing to similar genetic

variations and biochemistry in them, so it may be that many PWCs would

also benefit from the GFCF diet. The biochemistry behind this is

discussed in the book Autism: Effective Biomedical Treatments, by

Pangborn and Baker, available for $30 plus shipping from

http://www.autismresearchinstitute.com.

Rich

>

> Just curious, do you have any trouble with rye, oats, or barley? I

don't

> eat wheat, but have also found these grains to be toxic to my body.

I only

> ask because your diet sounds so similar to mine.

> Dawn

March 1, 2006

Hi, CS and the group.

Generally speaking, it's true that people with CFS do better on a high-

protein diet. However, I've learned from Amy Yasko's work that this

is NOT TRUE for those who have the CBS C699T genetic variation,

particularly if they are homozygous (that is, if they have inherited

two of these mutations, one from each parent). In this case, a high

protein diet puts the person into torpor and neurotoxicity from the

excess ammonia and hydrogen sulfide that are formed from breaking down

the protein. So I think PWCs should try to have their genetic

variations evaluated, but if they are unable to do this, they should

experiment with a low protein diet as well as a high protein diet to

see which works better for them. I agree that most will find a high

protein diet to work better, but not all. I suspect that the most ill

PWCs will find that a low protein diet is better for them, because

they are the ones most likely to have this particular genetic

variation.

Rich

>

> Hi

>

> The High protein diet tends to help people with CFS. Trying cutting

back on

> carbs / wheat / dairy and fruits.

>

> Regards

> CS

>

March 3, 2006

I actually have a gluten intolerance, that is why I don't eat any of these

grains. But it is atypical- I only developed it a few years ago, after I

had had fibro for a couple of years. I was just wondering if there may be

another component I am unaware of, as my gluten intolerence diagnosis was

not made by a dr, just based on symptoms. I also can eat very lttle dairy

and have many other food sensitivities. I am just wondering if any of this

could be connected to the fibro? Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,