Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Hi - I am coming up on another challenge, the first since doing the CalEDTA. I have a feeling, just that good old feeling that I may have to start doing two different chelators. Dr Sherry had me do a round of DMSA years ago that once it started mobilizing the mercury, my poor MCS body could not get it out. It was really, really rough. So I stopped. I am always one the verge of total load so it doesn't take much to send me over the edge. Anyway, when I saw her last year and told her that I wanted to give the CalEDTA a try, she wasn't totally supportive (she's really into the FIR saunas and DMSA). I told her that since the CalEDTA has an affinity for the lead and cadmium, I could at least start trying to get those two reduced and in time as my total load goes down, then the EDTA will chase the others metals like the aluminum and mercury and/or perhaps I could handle adding another chelator. And perhaps at that point maybe I can handle trying to move the mercury and aluminum. I am interested in knowing how you got to the point of doing both the EDTA and DMPS. Did you start with one then added a second? What's up with your metal levels...have they gone down? Also, you mentioned that you do you drips right on the same day as chelation....I know that Garry Gordon's protocol talks about that any type of supplementation within 48 hours before or after chelation will dilute the effectiveness of the EDTA. Is that different in your situation because the DMPS is also included? I haven't tried the RenewPro that you guys are talking about but I have done many other oral products. I did the Glut Precursors from CFSN and those didn't seem to do much. I did the ImmunoPro and other whey's that didn't do much either. The only oral product that I see any effects from at all is Dr Corsello's GlutaPath. I take it with her Antioxidant Formula and definately get results. (Not sure if you were around a few years ago she was a major topic of discussion with our group and Rich posted about her awesome book The Ageless Woman which is one of my top 5 favorite books. It is excellent.) But I hear ya on this ...from what Rich has posted, the kidneys snap it up first so we need to also concentrate on boosting the liver end of things. Kathy Hi, Kathy. " baahstun@... " <baahstun@...> wrote: Hi - I find this interesting. Not sure if you are doing Mag or Cal EDTA but maybe the proctol it is different when combined with the DMPS. ***It's Cal EDTA that goes with my DMPS fast push. For me, the chelation does what chelation is suppose to do. It chelates the bad stuff...but also chelates the good stuff as well. All my vitamins, nutrients and minerals went through the floor and we figured out that it was the EDTA pulling them out. I was doing tons of the oral supplements on the 5 days outside the 48 hour non-supplement window with chelation and it just wasn't enough for my body to keep up with what it was being stripped of. So, we changed it around. On Mondays, I do a fash push CalEDTA followed by 400 mg (about to be increased to 600 mg) Glut push. Then I go back on Wednesdays and have either a Boost or Meyers, it alternates week to week. I am convinced the Boost and Meyers drips are saving me right now. ***You might consider adding RenewPro or a nondenatured whey like it to help you liver produce optimal levels of glutathione for distribution throughout the body. As you might have read once on this list like I have that two modes of repleting glutathione do seem to be a superior choice to just one. Also, IV glutathione only has a 1.6 minute half in the blood with much of the glutathione being taken up by the kidney's. I have done 24 EDTA pushes so far. Now I am 5 weeks into adding these two drips to the protocol and have still not even hit loose stools from all the Mag....that alone tells me how badly my body needs it. ***Ain't that the truth. Also, magnesium is the most important element to go along with glutathione but gets used the fastest in a chelation process. I've not reached " loose stool " levels of magnesium either though I'm ingesting a lot of it. I take IM inj of mag. too. In addition, I think for me that just doing it by IV is such a better bang for the buck than the oral supplementation because of all my absorption issues. The oral just isn't enough which to me is $$ down the drain. ***It seems its becoming almost obvious that oral ingested GSH is probably the least effective method, not to be confused with oral ingested glutathione precusors like RenewPro which I can very much vouch for on effectiveness. --------------------------------- Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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