Re: Sinusitis/Ear advice anyone

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In a message dated 2/13/06 10:26:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jenbooks13@... writes:

Anybody have any ideas?

Sorry you are having such problems! When I have sinus problems I take small

slices of ginger root and chew on them. You might also try taking a slice

and pouring boiling water over it to drink as a tea. Hope you are better soon.

Take care,

Maxine

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Sara

My late son was on antibiotics signficantly at different times in his life.

He never got fungal issues. BUT I made and fed him yoghurt two and three

times daily, between the antibiotic doses.

He also drank a gallon of aloe vera juice several times a year.

Hope this helps

mjh

In a message dated 2/14/2006 1:10:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jenbooks13@... writes:

> This brings up a more general issue. As a rule, I can't take ANY

> antibiotics without accompanying them with liberal doses of diflucan.

> The literally head-to-toe yeast and fungal overgrowths will make me

> miserable in just a few days if I don't also take the antifungal

> every other night for the duration.

mjh

" The Basil Book "

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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--Hi

Gigi might be someone to ask. In the longer term are you thinking of

being checked over by a good Biological Dentist?

Its great you are planning to be a Publisher! I am going to the

London May 12 conference with Kerr,Hooper,Puri etc so let me know if

you if there is anything you want me to do on your behalf there.

Sunny thoughts,

Wallace- In , " jill1313 "

<jenbooks13@...> wrote:

>

> So. Since I had the dentist from hell and the tooth extraction

> fracture from hell, and took, for me, a lot of antibiotics (3 grams

a

> day of amoxy for 7 days, and then off and on, more off than on,

> nonetheless, more amoxy for the next few weeks) I have developed a

> sinusitis and ear stuffiness, maybe not from hell, but from

purgatory.

>

> I already apparently had low grade sinusitis but not like this.

>

> It just proves why I, personally, hate antibiotics. They partially

> clear up something while you're on them and it comes back worse with

> lots of fungus added into the mix.

>

> Anybody have any ideas? Here's what I've been doing:

>

> 1) Allicin

> 2) Oregano oil

> 3) Grossan irrigator with salt (doesn't do much but it feels good)

> 4) Steaming with teatree oil sometimes but I don't like that, that

much.

>

> I was thinking of taking bloodroot, or biocidin, I think I have that

> somewhere around here. I bought mucolytic type enzymes but they

didn't

> have a big effect. You won't be surprised to hear it gets worse with

> dairy and starches.

>

[Guest guest]

I did find a good dentist who repaired the problem the first one

created, as best he could. His name is Hindin and he works next

to Dr. Schachter, a holistic doc, they're about an hour north of me. I

have more work to be done but just put it off for a few more weeks.

I have some ideas for self publishing although this will be a new

venture that I have to research a bit. I think my idea is pretty good

and relatively simple and will help a lot of people. We'll see. It's

just that I used to be a book editor, and at times I've been a

magazine editor and may be so shortly again, so I " see " books and

their potential. Like I see that Rich could do something very valuable

with his overview, if he gets the time. And a friend sent me a

wonderful book she wrote that I'm not sure a regular publisher knows

how to publish. But I'm unlikely to actually get into publishing

others, though in a few years, you never know.

What you might want to do, Wallace, is make podcasts from their

lectures to put on the web, if they're not doing it, and if they're

open to it.

> >

> > So. Since I had the dentist from hell and the tooth extraction

> > fracture from hell, and took, for me, a lot of antibiotics (3 grams

> a

> > day of amoxy for 7 days, and then off and on, more off than on,

> > nonetheless, more amoxy for the next few weeks) I have developed a

> > sinusitis and ear stuffiness, maybe not from hell, but from

> purgatory.

> >

> > I already apparently had low grade sinusitis but not like this.

> >

> > It just proves why I, personally, hate antibiotics. They partially

> > clear up something while you're on them and it comes back worse with

> > lots of fungus added into the mix.

> >

> > Anybody have any ideas? Here's what I've been doing:

> >

> > 1) Allicin

> > 2) Oregano oil

> > 3) Grossan irrigator with salt (doesn't do much but it feels good)

> > 4) Steaming with teatree oil sometimes but I don't like that, that

> much.

> >

> > I was thinking of taking bloodroot, or biocidin, I think I have that

> > somewhere around here. I bought mucolytic type enzymes but they

> didn't

> > have a big effect. You won't be surprised to hear it gets worse with

> > dairy and starches.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried guaifenesin? Or something like that to assist the

drainage? Also, H2O2 in the ears might help some.

SPAM-MED: Sinusitis/Ear advice anyone

So. Since I had the dentist from hell and the tooth extraction

fracture from hell, and took, for me, a lot of antibiotics (3 grams a

day of amoxy for 7 days, and then off and on, more off than on,

nonetheless, more amoxy for the next few weeks) I have developed a

sinusitis and ear stuffiness, maybe not from hell, but from purgatory.

I already apparently had low grade sinusitis but not like this.

It just proves why I, personally, hate antibiotics. They partially

clear up something while you're on them and it comes back worse with

lots of fungus added into the mix.

Anybody have any ideas? Here's what I've been doing:

1) Allicin

2) Oregano oil

3) Grossan irrigator with salt (doesn't do much but it feels good)

4) Steaming with teatree oil sometimes but I don't like that, that much.

I was thinking of taking bloodroot, or biocidin, I think I have that

somewhere around here. I bought mucolytic type enzymes but they didn't

have a big effect. You won't be surprised to hear it gets worse with

dairy and starches.

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

Thanx Kurt. I use h202 in the ears. I don't really want to use a drug

(guaifenesin). I think is the result of the amoxicillin killing some

bacteria, then causing a rebound of more bacteria, plus creating a

fungal sinusitis and more allergies.

>

> Have you tried guaifenesin? Or something like that to assist the

> drainage? Also, H2O2 in the ears might help some.

>

> SPAM-MED: Sinusitis/Ear advice anyone

>

> So. Since I had the dentist from hell and the tooth extraction

> fracture from hell, and took, for me, a lot of antibiotics (3 grams a

> day of amoxy for 7 days, and then off and on, more off than on,

> nonetheless, more amoxy for the next few weeks) I have developed a

> sinusitis and ear stuffiness, maybe not from hell, but from purgatory.

>

> I already apparently had low grade sinusitis but not like this.

>

> It just proves why I, personally, hate antibiotics. They partially

> clear up something while you're on them and it comes back worse with

> lots of fungus added into the mix.

>

> Anybody have any ideas? Here's what I've been doing:

>

> 1) Allicin

> 2) Oregano oil

> 3) Grossan irrigator with salt (doesn't do much but it feels good)

> 4) Steaming with teatree oil sometimes but I don't like that, that much.

>

> I was thinking of taking bloodroot, or biocidin, I think I have that

> somewhere around here. I bought mucolytic type enzymes but they didn't

> have a big effect. You won't be surprised to hear it gets worse with

> dairy and starches.

>

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

> each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

> treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

>

>

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On Feb 14, 2006, at 8:51 AM, jill1313 wrote:

> Thanx Kurt. I use h202 in the ears. I don't really want to use a drug

> (guaifenesin). I think is the result of the amoxicillin killing some

> bacteria, then causing a rebound of more bacteria, plus creating a

> fungal sinusitis and more allergies.

This brings up a more general issue. As a rule, I can't take ANY

antibiotics without accompanying them with liberal doses of diflucan.

The literally head-to-toe yeast and fungal overgrowths will make me

miserable in just a few days if I don't also take the antifungal

every other night for the duration.

I'm taking steps to get myself tested for Lyme, per the suggestions

on this list. I'm already a bit queasy at the thought of taking 9

months of antibiotics -- including 12 weeks of erythromycin and

another 12 of doxycycline, both of which I tolerate both extremely

poorly -- and am expecting to spend the duration mostly in bed as a

result. Factoring in the likely fungal side effects is horrible to

contemplate. (Hey, it's just another year of my life. I've already

lost 10 or 12 of them; what's one more?)

Given these reactions, it's gonna be as disruptive to my life as

doing Marshall for nine months would be. I'm not looking forward to

it. But if it gets me well at last...*sigh*....it might be worth it.

Sara

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I can't tolerate the diflucan, too much nausea and liver pain even

though liver enzymes don't get elevated. But my body rebels.

You don't need 9 months of antibiotics, you're doing okay now, you're

feeling better! There are Chinese herbs you can take. If you do test

positive, ask on the list. I have various things I have to take care

of, but I do want to get to the Chinese herbs. Its just one thing at a

time. My friend chelated her metals after 8 years of lyme and finally

was able to tolerate high dose Chinese herbs and is improving. Before

she chelated her metals she could not. So its very important to do

things in order.

>

> > Thanx Kurt. I use h202 in the ears. I don't really want to use a drug

> > (guaifenesin). I think is the result of the amoxicillin killing some

> > bacteria, then causing a rebound of more bacteria, plus creating a

> > fungal sinusitis and more allergies.

>

> This brings up a more general issue. As a rule, I can't take ANY

> antibiotics without accompanying them with liberal doses of diflucan.

> The literally head-to-toe yeast and fungal overgrowths will make me

> miserable in just a few days if I don't also take the antifungal

> every other night for the duration.

>

> I'm taking steps to get myself tested for Lyme, per the suggestions

> on this list. I'm already a bit queasy at the thought of taking 9

> months of antibiotics -- including 12 weeks of erythromycin and

> another 12 of doxycycline, both of which I tolerate both extremely

> poorly -- and am expecting to spend the duration mostly in bed as a

> result. Factoring in the likely fungal side effects is horrible to

> contemplate. (Hey, it's just another year of my life. I've already

> lost 10 or 12 of them; what's one more?)

>

> Given these reactions, it's gonna be as disruptive to my life as

> doing Marshall for nine months would be. I'm not looking forward to

> it. But if it gets me well at last...*sigh*....it might be worth it.

>

> Sara

>

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On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:08 AM, jill1313 wrote:

> I can't tolerate the diflucan, too much nausea and liver pain even

> though liver enzymes don't get elevated. But my body rebels.

>

> You don't need 9 months of antibiotics, you're doing okay now, you're

> feeling better! There are Chinese herbs you can take. If you do test

> positive, ask on the list. I have various things I have to take care

> of, but I do want to get to the Chinese herbs. Its just one thing at a

> time. My friend chelated her metals after 8 years of lyme and finally

> was able to tolerate high dose Chinese herbs and is improving. Before

> she chelated her metals she could not. So its very important to do

> things in order.

Good point. I usually try the natural option before resorting to the

medical one (it's just less complicated that way). But I'm not

familiar with natural ways of curing Lyme.

I've been on chelating stuff for about five years now. Tim Guilford

put me on a year of chlorella for mercury; and also about 2 mg of NAC

daily, which I've taken ever since. I'm also injecting 3ml of

glutathione every 5 days or so since August. At this point, it's not

likely that free-floating metals are a huge issue.

ly, my experience with Chinese herbs is that they're noxious-

tasting, and a huge hassle to prepare and take to boot. I have a hard

time staying with them for the months you usually have to do get

results. Is there really any evidence that they cure Lyme for good?

As you say, I'm feeling much better these days. Which, as it turns

out, only makes me less patient with stuff that doesn't go to the

heart of the matter. Hovering here at the 85% level, I'm at the point

where I want a cure -- I'm not interested in noodling around with

anything unless it gives me a good shot at full recovery. (It's kind

of ironic that success actually makes one more, rather than less,

impatient with mere hope.)

From here, the only next steps worth pursuing are those that seem

most likely to effect a full cure. Right now, this is a very short list:

1. Get a good Lyme test, explore other possible chronic long-term

infections, and resolve them.

2. Get my heart checked out to make sure it hasn't been damaged by

all this. Viral myocarditis is the leading cause of death in my

mother's family, claiming 50% of her ancestors before the age of 60.

(My grandmother died at 59. One aunt had it at 50, and spent 7 months

in the hospital. Another aunt got a new heart at 60. Even without ME,

the risks here are stacked much too high for comfort. With ME, it's

overwhelming -- and frightening. And, on top of that, I'm finding

lately that the only time I crash any more is when I allow my heart

rate to rise above 120 bpm -- not a good sign at all.)

3. Work Rich's methylation protocol

4. Try Recup

That should take most of the next year to work through. Fortunately,

I've got an appointment with an allegedly ME-literate internist in

downtown Vancouver next week. I hope he'll be able to help me with

some of this stuff. (Anybody got dish to share on a Dr. Dunne?)

Sara

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> I've been on chelating stuff for about five years now. Tim Guilford

> put me on a year of chlorella for mercury; and also about 2 mg of NAC

> daily, which I've taken ever since. I'm also injecting 3ml of

> glutathione every 5 days or so since August. At this point, it's not

> likely that free-floating metals are a huge issue.

That is not necessarily the case. There is not good evidence that

chlorella effectively chelates mercury, and in fact, I heard of one

person who had impure chlorella and got mercury toxic from it.

Secondly, NAC and glutathione are only mild chelators. SO you may

still have heavy metals (and then again may not).

>

> ly, my experience with Chinese herbs is that they're noxious-

> tasting, and a huge hassle to prepare and take to boot. I have a hard

> time staying with them for the months you usually have to do get

> results. Is there really any evidence that they cure Lyme for good?

No, there are no double blind studies or trials, only anecdotal

evidence. She uses 7Forests and so did somebody else and his wife, on

lymenet, who did well. Its individual. THey do not need to be prepared.

By the way, there is a great center in Vancouver...I wish I could

remmeber the name, but I used it a few times when I visited for a few

weeks. They have a HUGE hyperbaric chamber and will offer lower

pressure dives (1.5), they also give vitamin/mineral IV's, DMSO by IV

(I recall a girl suicidal from RSD getting that), infrared saunas,

clay baths and the whole kit and kaboodle. I'm sure if you google

hyperbaric and vancouver you'll figure out where it was--I had to take

a " tram " there from Yaletown.

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Understand. Although I too have P450 system sensitivities and do fine

with Guai, I think it is cleared mostly through kidneys. But maybe if

you have kidney issues Guai would not work well. I use only low-doses.

What about the natural remides? One that many people swear is the only

thing to clear sinusitis and ears is to chew on raw horseradish and stop

dairy until it resolves.

--Kurt

SPAM-MED: Sinusitis/Ear advice anyone

>

> So. Since I had the dentist from hell and the tooth extraction

> fracture from hell, and took, for me, a lot of antibiotics (3 grams a

> day of amoxy for 7 days, and then off and on, more off than on,

> nonetheless, more amoxy for the next few weeks) I have developed a

> sinusitis and ear stuffiness, maybe not from hell, but from purgatory.

>

> I already apparently had low grade sinusitis but not like this.

>

> It just proves why I, personally, hate antibiotics. They partially

> clear up something while you're on them and it comes back worse with

> lots of fungus added into the mix.

>

> Anybody have any ideas? Here's what I've been doing:

>

> 1) Allicin

> 2) Oregano oil

> 3) Grossan irrigator with salt (doesn't do much but it feels good)

> 4) Steaming with teatree oil sometimes but I don't like that, that

much.

>

> I was thinking of taking bloodroot, or biocidin, I think I have that

> somewhere around here. I bought mucolytic type enzymes but they didn't

> have a big effect. You won't be surprised to hear it gets worse with

> dairy and starches.

>

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

> each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

> treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

>

>

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I was thinking of cayenne. Horseradish is good too. I have gone off my

allicin, it may have been inflaming the tissue a bit while killing

fungal stuff. It is a rock and a hard place. The allicin is quite

strong, but it constipates me and it causes inflammation (or else, the

dieoff causes inflammation)

> >

> > Have you tried guaifenesin? Or something like that to assist the

> > drainage? Also, H2O2 in the ears might help some.

> >

> > SPAM-MED: Sinusitis/Ear advice anyone

> >

> > So. Since I had the dentist from hell and the tooth extraction

> > fracture from hell, and took, for me, a lot of antibiotics (3 grams a

> > day of amoxy for 7 days, and then off and on, more off than on,

> > nonetheless, more amoxy for the next few weeks) I have developed a

> > sinusitis and ear stuffiness, maybe not from hell, but from purgatory.

> >

> > I already apparently had low grade sinusitis but not like this.

> >

> > It just proves why I, personally, hate antibiotics. They partially

> > clear up something while you're on them and it comes back worse with

> > lots of fungus added into the mix.

> >

> > Anybody have any ideas? Here's what I've been doing:

> >

> > 1) Allicin

> > 2) Oregano oil

> > 3) Grossan irrigator with salt (doesn't do much but it feels good)

> > 4) Steaming with teatree oil sometimes but I don't like that, that

> much.

> >

> > I was thinking of taking bloodroot, or biocidin, I think I have that

> > somewhere around here. I bought mucolytic type enzymes but they didn't

> > have a big effect. You won't be surprised to hear it gets worse with

> > dairy and starches.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

> > each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

> > treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> >

> >

> >

> >