Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Mg/B6, fish oil and SAM-e In a message dated 2/10/2006 11:57:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, DMV3@... writes: I have a question for ladies in the group(sorry guys). Can any of you tell me about your experience with PMS or PMDD (I have this) and having ME/CFIDS. I have a lot of symptoms two weeks before my cycle that are becoming difficult to deal with- very sore breasts, sleeplessness, irritability, anxiety, some depression and extreme fatigue, especially a few days before I start. I am scheduled to see my Gyn. on Tuesday, and I know she will recommend an antidepressant and/or antianxiety med. and I am not opposed to that because I really need relief, but I also have severe MCS and I cannot tolerate many medications. I am not sure what to do, but I need help. I appreciate anyone sharing their experiences with me. Thank you! Dawn V mjh " The Basil Book " http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 I had these problems and natural progesterone cream really sorted it out. Also evening primrose oil and magnesium help with breast pain PMS and ME/CFIDS I have a question for ladies in the group(sorry guys). Can any of you tell me about your experience with PMS or PMDD (I have this) and having ME/CFIDS. I have a lot of symptoms two weeks before my cycle that are becoming difficult to deal with- very sore breasts, sleeplessness, irritability, anxiety, some depression and extreme fatigue, especially a few days before I start. I am scheduled to see my Gyn. on Tuesday, and I know she will recommend an antidepressant and/or antianxiety med. and I am not opposed to that because I really need relief, but I also have severe MCS and I cannot tolerate many medications. I am not sure what to do, but I need help. I appreciate anyone sharing their experiences with me. Thank you! Dawn V dmv3@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Natural progesterone will probably help.I also have severe MCS and best product I found so far was Karuna hypoallergenic progesterone lotion. best wishes. Nil >I have a question for ladies in the group(sorry guys). > Can any of you tell me about your experience with PMS or PMDD (I have > this) and having ME/CFIDS. I have a lot of symptoms two weeks before my > cycle that are becoming > difficult to deal with- very sore breasts, sleeplessness, irritability, > anxiety, some depression and extreme fatigue, especially a few days before > I start. > I am scheduled to see my Gyn. on Tuesday, and I know she will recommend an > antidepressant and/or antianxiety med. and I am not opposed to that > because I really need relief, but I also have severe MCS and I cannot > tolerate many medications. I am not sure what to do, but I need help. I > appreciate anyone sharing their experiences with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 When I take oestrogen, it makes all of my symptoms worse. Much, much, much, worse. So I don't take any. I wonder if oestrogen-blockers would be helpful? Tamoxifen anyone? Kat. > > I have a question for ladies in the group(sorry guys). > Can any of you tell me about your experience with PMS or PMDD (I have this) and having ME/CFIDS. I have a lot of symptoms two weeks before my cycle that are becoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Dear Dawn, Evening primrose oil helped me a great deal! It took 3 months to have any noticable effect though. Kindest regards, Annette --------------------------------- Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 I also find natural progesterone cream helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Hi, all. The late Dr. R. Lee coined the term " estrogen dominance " and wrote some books about it, dealing both with premenopause and with menopause. He advocated use of bioidentical progesterone cream to balance the estrogen and progesterone. I think his books are worth reading. Rich > > I also find natural progesterone cream helpful. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Dawn, The answers you want are likely found in the book, " That Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Perimenopause " . Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Your symptom relief is primarily from the Magnesium. In a message dated 2/11/2006 9:46:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, kgenest@... writes: To echo the other responses: Magnesium, Primrose oil (single dose the first two weeks of the month then double the two weeks prior to menses), and progesterone. Helped me with chocolate cravings, irritability, and cramps. mjh " The Basil Book " http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 To echo the other responses: Magnesium, Primrose oil (single dose the first two weeks of the month then double the two weeks prior to menses), and progesterone. Helped me with chocolate cravings, irritability, and cramps. > > I have a question for ladies in the group(sorry guys). > Can any of you tell me about your experience with PMS or PMDD (I have this) and having ME/CFIDS. I have a lot of symptoms two weeks before my cycle that are becoming > difficult to deal with- very sore breasts, sleeplessness, irritability, anxiety, some depression and extreme fatigue, especially a few days before I start. > I am scheduled to see my Gyn. on Tuesday, and I know she will recommend an antidepressant and/or antianxiety med. and I am not opposed to that because I really need relief, but I also have severe MCS and I cannot tolerate many medications. I am not sure what to do, but I need help. I appreciate anyone sharing their experiences with me. > Thank you! > > > Dawn V > dmv3@... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Thanks, Rich and Mel for the suggestion of the book. My local health food store has it in stock, so I'm getting it today. Dr. Lee's website looks good too and offers valuable information about a lot of issues. Thanks to everyone else and their suggestions as well! Dawn Re: PMS and ME/CFIDS Hi, all. The late Dr. R. Lee coined the term " estrogen dominance " and wrote some books about it, dealing both with premenopause and with menopause. He advocated use of bioidentical progesterone cream to balance the estrogen and progesterone. I think his books are worth reading. Rich > > I also find natural progesterone cream helpful. > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 > > > > > > Your symptom relief is primarily from the Magnesium. > Yes, I would agree. I added magnesium first (by injection). But the addition of the progesterone (improvement in sleep and general well being) and primrose oil (improvement in cramps and irritability) helped also. They are my PMS package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Thanks for adding that it takes time to get results. I may have thought that it wasn't working. THanks! Dawn Re: PMS and ME/CFIDS Dear Dawn, Evening primrose oil helped me a great deal! It took 3 months to have any noticable effect though. Kindest regards, Annette --------------------------------- Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:57 AM, <jl@...> wrote: > I had these problems and natural progesterone cream really sorted > it out. Also evening primrose oil and magnesium help with breast pain I second this. ME munches up the pituitary, which in turn really messes up the reproductive hormones in both men and women. A lot of us, I think, really start to notice this in our late 30s, as we begin the first downshifts toward perimenopause. Do NOT let them put you on antidepressants and call it a day. Insist that your gyn check your estrogen, testosterone, and progesterone levels (all three!). If any of them are low, be sure to ask for " bioidentical " replacement -- hormones derived from natural plant sources, instead of chemically- based synthetics. If you doc won't do this, find one who will. The bioidenticals are absorbed much more efficiently by the body, so you only need to use a fraction as much; and they are identical to what your own body makes (the synthetic ones are not), which reduces the uncomfortable and dangerous side effects tremendously. If you have problems with medications, you will almost certainly tolerate bioidenticals far more easily than the synthetics. I also found near-total relief with a good, strong progesterone cream. Recently, I've added just a couple drops of bioidentical estrogen each night. If it wasn't for these two, I'd probably be on a host of other medications to address all the symptoms. This simple regimen stopped all those problems at their root. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 THank you! I think I have found all the right things now thanks to you and others that have contributed. Thanks for sharing! Dawn PMS and ME/CFIDS I have a question for ladies in the group(sorry guys). Can any of you tell me about your experience with PMS or PMDD (I have this) and having ME/CFIDS. I have a lot of symptoms two weeks before my cycle that are becoming difficult to deal with- very sore breasts, sleeplessness, irritability, anxiety, some depression and extreme fatigue, especially a few days before I start. I am scheduled to see my Gyn. on Tuesday, and I know she will recommend an antidepressant and/or antianxiety med. and I am not opposed to that because I really need relief, but I also have severe MCS and I cannot tolerate many medications. I am not sure what to do, but I need help. I appreciate anyone sharing their experiences with me. Thank you! Dawn V dmv3@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Great! This is especially helpful with the MCS. thank you! Dawn Re: PMS and ME/CFIDS Natural progesterone will probably help.I also have severe MCS and best product I found so far was Karuna hypoallergenic progesterone lotion. best wishes. Nil >I have a question for ladies in the group(sorry guys). > Can any of you tell me about your experience with PMS or PMDD (I have > this) and having ME/CFIDS. I have a lot of symptoms two weeks before my > cycle that are becoming > difficult to deal with- very sore breasts, sleeplessness, irritability, > anxiety, some depression and extreme fatigue, especially a few days before > I start. > I am scheduled to see my Gyn. on Tuesday, and I know she will recommend an > antidepressant and/or antianxiety med. and I am not opposed to that > because I really need relief, but I also have severe MCS and I cannot > tolerate many medications. I am not sure what to do, but I need help. I > appreciate anyone sharing their experiences with me. This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Subject: Re: PMS and ME/CFIDS Great! This is especially helpful with the MCS. thank you! Dawn Re: PMS and ME/CFIDS Natural progesterone will probably help.I also have severe MCS and best product I found so far was Karuna hypoallergenic progesterone lotion. best wishes. Nil >I have a question for ladies in the group(sorry guys). > Can any of you tell me about your experience with PMS or PMDD (I have > this) and having ME/CFIDS. I have a lot of symptoms two weeks before my > cycle that are becoming > difficult to deal with- very sore breasts, sleeplessness, irritability, > anxiety, some depression and extreme fatigue, especially a few days before > I start. > I am scheduled to see my Gyn. on Tuesday, and I know she will recommend an > antidepressant and/or antianxiety med. and I am not opposed to that > because I really need relief, but I also have severe MCS and I cannot > tolerate many medications. I am not sure what to do, but I need help. I > appreciate anyone sharing their experiences with me. This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Do you guys take progesterone every day or just days 15 to 28 of your cycle? And how much magensium and primrose oil seems to work? Thanks! Katrina from California > > > > > > Subject: Re: PMS and ME/CFIDS > > Great! This is especially helpful with the MCS. > thank you! > Dawn > > > Re: PMS and ME/CFIDS > > > Natural progesterone will probably help.I also have severe MCS and best > product I found so far was Karuna hypoallergenic progesterone lotion. > best wishes. > Nil > > > >I have a question for ladies in the group(sorry guys). > > Can any of you tell me about your experience with PMS or PMDD (I have > > this) and having ME/CFIDS. I have a lot of symptoms two weeks before > my > > cycle that are becoming > > difficult to deal with- very sore breasts, sleeplessness, > irritability, > > anxiety, some depression and extreme fatigue, especially a few days > before > > I start. > > I am scheduled to see my Gyn. on Tuesday, and I know she will > recommend an > > antidepressant and/or antianxiety med. and I am not opposed to that > > because I really need relief, but I also have severe MCS and I cannot > > tolerate many medications. I am not sure what to do, but I need help. > I > > appreciate anyone sharing their experiences with me. > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with > each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any > treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I don't take it the first 7 days of the month. On day 8 I start the Progesterone and take it through the end of the month. Next month,the same. Ballady > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: PMS and ME/CFIDS > > > > Great! This is especially helpful with the MCS. > > thank you! > > Dawn > > > > > > Re: PMS and ME/CFIDS > > > > > > Natural progesterone will probably help.I also have severe MCS and > best > > product I found so far was Karuna hypoallergenic progesterone > lotion. > > best wishes. > > Nil > > > > > > >I have a question for ladies in the group(sorry guys). > > > Can any of you tell me about your experience with PMS or PMDD (I > have > > > this) and having ME/CFIDS. I have a lot of symptoms two weeks > before > > my > > > cycle that are becoming > > > difficult to deal with- very sore breasts, sleeplessness, > > irritability, > > > anxiety, some depression and extreme fatigue, especially a few > days > > before > > > I start. > > > I am scheduled to see my Gyn. on Tuesday, and I know she will > > recommend an > > > antidepressant and/or antianxiety med. and I am not opposed to > that > > > because I really need relief, but I also have severe MCS and I > cannot > > > tolerate many medications. I am not sure what to do, but I need > help. > > I > > > appreciate anyone sharing their experiences with me. > > > > > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences > with > > each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in > any > > treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:43 PM, tvpro36 wrote: > Do you guys take progesterone every day or just days 15 to 28 of > your cycle? And how much magensium and primrose oil seems to work? You gotta find what works for you. I use the same dosages of both progesterone and estrogen, every night, throughout my cycle; I don't vary the formula at all. But I'm also 47 and picking up speed toward menopause. I don't know that I'd have done the same thing at 37 (or even 42, when I was on light doses of OTC progesterone only). Doing the cyclic variation thing never worked well for me. YMMV, of course. Like so many of our treatments, you gotta play with dosages and timings until you get them just right. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Hi and others, May I ask what particular form of progesterone and estrogen do you use? What dosage? I'm a hormonal mess.I've suffered with PMDD for years. I'm 49 and pretty certain I'm in Peri.Irregular cycles,heavy prolonged bleeding and severe cramps. Blood tests normal........naturally.I keep telling the docs it's pointless as my blood hormone levels are always normal even though clearly I'm in trouble. Each month I have to spend a few days in bed.My periods put me into a CFS relapse. The insomnia is deadly. Mt Ferritin levels are always low despite iron supplements. My doctor is suggesting a progesterone IUD(can't recall the commercial name). Also mentioned taking oral progesterone for two weeks prior to period. Last time I used a progesterone cream,when it was all the go due to Dr Lee's book,I spotted badly all month. Also had PMS type symptoms with it. Every treatment I've tried thus far has given me menopausal symptoms,hot flashes etc. Cheers > On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:43 PM, tvpro36 wrote: > >> Do you guys take progesterone every day or just days 15 to 28 of >> your cycle? And how much magensium and primrose oil seems to work? > > You gotta find what works for you. I use the same dosages of both > progesterone and estrogen, every night, throughout my cycle; I don't > vary the formula at all. But I'm also 47 and picking up speed toward > menopause. I don't know that I'd have done the same thing at 37 (or > even 42, when I was on light doses of OTC progesterone only). > > Doing the cyclic variation thing never worked well for me. YMMV, of > course. Like so many of our treatments, you gotta play with dosages > and timings until you get them just right. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I am using progesterone lotion by Karuna. If progesterone does not work for you may give a try to chamomile tea. Start drinking it 4 or 5 days prior to start of period.It might help to some extend for PMS. best wishes. Nil Re: Re: PMS and ME/CFIDS > Hi and others, > May I ask what particular form of progesterone and estrogen do you use? > What dosage? > > I'm a hormonal mess.I've suffered with PMDD for years. > I'm 49 and pretty certain I'm in Peri.Irregular cycles,heavy prolonged > bleeding and severe cramps. > Blood tests normal........naturally.I keep telling the docs it's pointless > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 On Feb 12, 2006, at 3:42 PM, Riley wrote: > Hi and others, > May I ask what particular form of progesterone and estrogen do you > use? I used Pro-Gest for years. It's a good, very high-dose brand. You can also go to GNC or the Vitamin Shoppe and ask them for their highest- dose brands (I think the legal OTC limit in the US is 480mg/ounce). It's a cream that you apply to the wrists, inner elbows, armpits, knees, hands, or feet -- that is, wherever the skin is thinnest -- right before bed. It's good to vary location night to night. If the OTC versions work, you're golden. If not, you need to go see a doctor and get the labs done. A doctor can also prescribe the estrogen drops if you need them. They're sublingual drops that combine 2-3 different forms of estrogen, and are generally made up by a compounding pharmacy to fit your specific needs. BTW, I'd caution women with ME to be very, very careful with Promensil and some of the other clover or soy-based " menopause supplements " out there. The isoflavones in them are VERY hard on the thyroid. Most of us already have very fragile thyroids, and they may not be able to take the hit. If you're taking one of these supplements and your symptoms are not improving, get off now. > I'm a hormonal mess.I've suffered with PMDD for years. > I'm 49 and pretty certain I'm in Peri.Irregular cycles,heavy prolonged > bleeding and severe cramps. Peri can start as early as 35. Most people think it's just the year or two before; but it's really the whole long, slow slide that starts in the mid to late-30s as the system gradually dwindles. > Blood tests normal........naturally.I keep telling the docs it's > pointless > as my blood hormone levels are always normal even though > clearly I'm in trouble. " Normal " is a very fluid concept. What one doc or lab considers normal may be way out of whack according to another. If your doctor can't figure this out, it's high time s/he admitted as much and passed you on to an endocrinologist who can. > Each month I have to spend a few days in bed.My periods put me into > a CFS > relapse. > The insomnia is deadly. > Mt Ferritin levels are always low despite iron supplements. > > My doctor is suggesting a progesterone IUD(can't recall the commercial > name). > Also mentioned taking oral progesterone for two weeks prior to period. Sweet Jesus. A progesterone IUD? That's WAY overkill (and I say that as a woman who loves her IUD). IUDs are notorious for making periods worse the first six to 12 months, which is the last thing you need. And if it doesn't work, removing it is no fun. And run screaming from " oral progesterone " , which is not really progesterone, but a synthetic progestin -- a whole other hormone entirely, and one that can make things worse. > Last time I used a progesterone cream,when it was all the go due to > Dr Lee's > book,I spotted badly all month. How long ago was this? If it was more than a couple years, you may be in a different place now. Or you may need to use it in different parts of your cycle; or perhaps less of it. It does sound like you're probably seriously ready to try bioidentical estrogen. One way to get around your doc on this is to look in your Yellow Pages for " compounding pharmacy " -- a pharmacy that makes its own meds. Call up the pharmacist, describe your situation, and tell him/her you want to try natural HRT. Odds are very good that s/he will be able to point you to a doctor who will be more amenable to actually treating you, instead of trying to pacify you with pharmco-poison-of-the-month. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I wish I could find the recent article but I don't recall where I read it, basically, applying it at home yourself on the skin you will get very variable doses, which is not necessarily so great. Also I read at some point that the progest cream had actual progesterone in it (not just yam-based). Also, though bio identical are certainly better than horse's urine, they are hormones nonetheless. Taking them for years and years, one has to be fully aware that there is a risk. This risk may definitely be worth it to many for quality of life, but hormones are hormones. They do not cause cancer but they do spur the growth of hormone dependent cancers. They are tumor promoters, in other words. For many years people were, for instance, talking up the benefits of soy and I never really trusted it as a cancer-preventer and to calm down your hormones. I noticed if I ate a lot of soy I got heavier periods and more PMS. So I just started avoiding soy. Now a lot of literature is coming out to indicate that these high-soy products, used daily, are not necessarily healthy and may be damaging to health. They increase estrogen levels in men and women. Etc. Just throwing in a cautionary word here. I do think if you're going to supplement with hormones its wise to see an experienced doctor who will test estrogen, progesterone and testosterone, give you the lowest dose possible, monitor your blood levels, etc. > > > Hi and others, > > May I ask what particular form of progesterone and estrogen do you > > use? > > I used Pro-Gest for years. It's a good, very high-dose brand. You can > also go to GNC or the Vitamin Shoppe and ask them for their highest- > dose brands (I think the legal OTC limit in the US is 480mg/ounce). > It's a cream that you apply to the wrists, inner elbows, armpits, > knees, hands, or feet -- that is, wherever the skin is thinnest -- > right before bed. It's good to vary location night to night. > > If the OTC versions work, you're golden. If not, you need to go see a > doctor and get the labs done. A doctor can also prescribe the > estrogen drops if you need them. They're sublingual drops that > combine 2-3 different forms of estrogen, and are generally made up by > a compounding pharmacy to fit your specific needs. > > BTW, I'd caution women with ME to be very, very careful with > Promensil and some of the other clover or soy-based " menopause > supplements " out there. The isoflavones in them are VERY hard on the > thyroid. Most of us already have very fragile thyroids, and they may > not be able to take the hit. If you're taking one of these > supplements and your symptoms are not improving, get off now. > > > I'm a hormonal mess.I've suffered with PMDD for years. > > I'm 49 and pretty certain I'm in Peri.Irregular cycles,heavy prolonged > > bleeding and severe cramps. > > Peri can start as early as 35. Most people think it's just the year > or two before; but it's really the whole long, slow slide that starts > in the mid to late-30s as the system gradually dwindles. > > > Blood tests normal........naturally.I keep telling the docs it's > > pointless > > as my blood hormone levels are always normal even though > > clearly I'm in trouble. > > " Normal " is a very fluid concept. What one doc or lab considers > normal may be way out of whack according to another. If your doctor > can't figure this out, it's high time s/he admitted as much and > passed you on to an endocrinologist who can. > > > Each month I have to spend a few days in bed.My periods put me into > > a CFS > > relapse. > > The insomnia is deadly. > > Mt Ferritin levels are always low despite iron supplements. > > > > My doctor is suggesting a progesterone IUD(can't recall the commercial > > name). > > Also mentioned taking oral progesterone for two weeks prior to period. > > Sweet Jesus. > > A progesterone IUD? That's WAY overkill (and I say that as a woman > who loves her IUD). IUDs are notorious for making periods worse the > first six to 12 months, which is the last thing you need. And if it > doesn't work, removing it is no fun. > > And run screaming from " oral progesterone " , which is not really > progesterone, but a synthetic progestin -- a whole other hormone > entirely, and one that can make things worse. > > > Last time I used a progesterone cream,when it was all the go due to > > Dr Lee's > > book,I spotted badly all month. > > How long ago was this? If it was more than a couple years, you may be > in a different place now. Or you may need to use it in different > parts of your cycle; or perhaps less of it. > > It does sound like you're probably seriously ready to try > bioidentical estrogen. One way to get around your doc on this is to > look in your Yellow Pages for " compounding pharmacy " -- a pharmacy > that makes its own meds. Call up the pharmacist, describe your > situation, and tell him/her you want to try natural HRT. Odds are > very good that s/he will be able to point you to a doctor who will be > more amenable to actually treating you, instead of trying to pacify > you with pharmco-poison-of-the-month. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I do not tolerate oral magnesium, so I give myself an injection once a week. To find the right dose of magnesium taken orally, you want to do what they call bowel tolerance. You start at a low dose and slowly build up the dose until you have loose stools. Then you drop down one dose and that supposedly is the correct dose for your body. I never got to that point because my stomach did not tolerate magnesium. Primrose oil, I started at 250mg the first two weeks of the month (first day being menses), then doubled the amount for the second two weeks. If you start at a too high of a dose with Primrose oil it can give you a head ache, so start low. BTW, Primrose oil stopped my spotting in two days when I started taking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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