Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I've delayed posting this report from a " virtual " conference because it's long, but there has been a lot of discussion of magnesium here in the last couple of months, so... My impression is that if you supplement with magnesium taurinate, you would need less because it's well absorbed. Or at least a person named Jackie, below, says it's well absorbed. I see that supplement catalogs sell magesium taurinate and magesium taurate. I haven't yet tried to find out what the difference is. I think a said she uses taurate? a, what was your reason for your choice? Sue Upstate, New York THE AFIB REPORT Your Premier Information Resource for Lone Atrial Fibrillation Publisher: Hans R. Larsen MSc ChE VIRTUAL LAF CONFERENCE Proceeding http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:p7FiqgH3y5AJ:afibbers.org/ conference/ session23.pdf+%22magnesium+taurinate%22+%22magnesium+taurate%22 & hl=en & cl ient=safari - I'm glad you lowered your dose of magnesium.... but are you sure you are/were really taking 2500 mg....of elemental magnesium Most people can't tolerate much more than 800 - 1000 mg. of elemental magnesium without experiencing bowel intolerance. It could be the form you were taking..... magnesium oxide is very poorly absorbed so it might be possible to reach the numbers you mention. I'm not suggesting anyone take magnesium if it gives them more PAC's but most of us find magnesium very calming to the heart .... magnesium glycinate is specifically complexed to eliminate bowel intolerance yet provide the benefits of magnesium due to its bioavailability. Some of us are now using another complexed form - magnesium taurate which can be taken at even lower doses... 's post on the other minerals is very important..... we need the balance of the electrolytes involved in cardiac tissue function, although most afibbers do not do well with added calcium. Peggy, however, is reporting good results which points out once again, the biochemical individuality of us all. We are all at various stages of age, nutritional deficit, stress levels and a plethora of other influences that will change how these minerals work for us individually. It is good to keep experimenting to find the balance that works for you, personally, by using the others' experience merely as a guideline. It is also my experience that most doctors (unless holistic) will not recognize the benefit of any supplements such as minerals for heart function so it doesn't surprise me, the comments you're relayed here. Magnesium overload will result in depression, lethargy, and other complications and is considered rare just because when we take too much, the body throws of the excess by producing diarrhea.... and everyone can recognize that symptom, and back off on their dosage. If you aren't sure about the elemental magnesium portion.... here's a repeat of an old post I recently brought forward again.... Author: Theo (---.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) Date: 11-01-03 23:59 Magnesium oxide 1000 mg (1 g) = 550 mg elemental magnesium Magnesium citrate 1000 mg = 100 mg elemental mg Magnesium aspartate 1000 mg = 80.44mg elemental mg Magnesium glycinate 1000 mg = 110.70mg elemental mg Magnesium taurinate 1000 mg = 150 mg elemental mg Magnesium arginate 1000 mg = 60 mg elemental mg Jackie ========= Hi Kay, Welcome! Magnesium has caused a few to have increased PACs and other ectopics, but most, like myself have found the opposite to be true. You mentioned that your magnesium is in oxide and gluconate form. Usually, when there are two forms of magnesium (or any element) in the supplement, the first compound mentioned on the label is the one that makes up, by far, the largest percentage of that supplement. Magnesium oxide is almost useless because it is not at all absorbable. Magnesium glycinate or magnesium taurate are the most absorbable forms and also don't cause loose bowels, if you've experienced that problem at all. Lorraine ==================== Lynn, As you suggested, there appears to be a " glycine site " on the NMDA receptor that is a glutamate co-agonist (as opposed to antagonist). Furthermore, it appears that glycine can diffuse across the blood brain barrier. http://www.ibogaine.org/lit-nmda.html Since 1) neurons in the brainstem that control vagal tone have NMDA receptors that require the neurotransmitter glutamate 2) vagal tone is directly related to PACs and AF. This would certainly explain why magnesium glycinate (but not magnesium taurate) might be problematic. This would be another reason (in addition to that forwarded by Jackie in her BB post on taurine) for preferring the taurate form over the glycinate form. Perhaps those that had adverse reactions with Mg using the glycinate chelate might revisit Mg supplementation. PC ======================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I take Natural Calm which is an elemental form of Magnesium citrate. It is powder which allows me to regulate the dosage ( when I take too much I get loose stools so then I back off to previous dosage) to MY body's needs. I have read what you say about Mag Taurate and glycinate not causing loose stools and wonder if I should change or if this method of determining one's specific mag needs is more beneficial. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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