Re: Magnesium Malate question for pain

[Guest guest]

Jennie

In 1997 and 1998 two different rheumatologists recommended that I take

between 600 and 1200 mg of Magnesium plus 1200 to 2400 mg of Malic Acid daily.

Magnesium remains a significant pain reliever for me, also makes my heart

and brain work better. vitamin B6 is it's cofactor..... helps it work in your

body.

Dark, leafy greens, like parsley, contain lots of Magnesium.

Hope this helps

mjh

In a message dated 12/30/2005 9:41:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

luvmyfirefly@... writes:

I have heard good things about magnesium and malic acid to help with

pain. Today I picked up this product:

http://www.performancenutritionals.com/store/Shop_By_Brand___Source_NaturalsSN

0261?partnerid=froogle

Can you tell me if this is the right type of magnesium and the right

dosage? This can be so confusing and it seems everyone has a

different answer. And right now I'm really in no position to do a

serious research project!

Thanks!

Jennie

mjh

" The Basil Book "

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

[Guest guest]

Jennie

Here's a link that explains more on this issue.

_http://www.oralchelation.com/technical/malic2.htm_

(http://www.oralchelation.com/technical/malic2.htm)

mjh

" The Basil Book "

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/31/2005 1:10:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kdrbrill@... writes:

On the other hand manganese is an almost untalked about trace mineral that

is essential

to mitochondrial function. It is also ESSENTIAL in order for the body to

use vitamin C

properly. So many people think high-dose C is harmless. Not true. High

dose C lowers or

depletes copper, magnanese and other minerals that help it work.

My rheumaolotist recommended both Manganese and C in 1998. Very helpful

along with the Magnesium and malic acid.

Sorry your experience has not been as positive as mine. So very much less

pain.

mjh

" The Basil Book "

http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

[Guest guest]

This is just my own personal experience, but I think magnesium is extremely

overrated as

a supplement for CFIDS. (Also vitamin C for any illness.) Yes, studies were

done 20-30

years ago showing marked improvement with magnesium and malic acid, but no real

expanded follow-ups after that. And we're still all sick. I'm not saying it

won't help you --

just that in my opinion, it's overrated. Whenever I take it, 8 times out of 10

I'll have heart

palpitations within an hour or two. But then again, it helps many others.

But I think I'm low on calcium, as my doctor found I was low in vitamin D, and I

have teeth

and gum issues. So perhaps I've taken too much magnesium and not enough

calcium...

On the other hand manganese is an almost untalked about trace mineral that is

essential

to mitochondrial function. It is also ESSENTIAL in order for the body to use

vitamin C

properly. So many people think high-dose C is harmless. Not true. High dose C

lowers or

depletes copper, magnanese and other minerals that help it work.

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> Jennie

> In 1997 and 1998 two different rheumatologists recommended that I take

> between 600 and 1200 mg of Magnesium plus 1200 to 2400 mg of Malic Acid

daily.

>

> Magnesium remains a significant pain reliever for me, also makes my heart

> and brain work better. vitamin B6 is it's cofactor..... helps it work in

your

> body.

>

> Dark, leafy greens, like parsley, contain lots of Magnesium.

>

> Hope this helps

> mjh

>

>

> In a message dated 12/30/2005 9:41:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> luvmyfirefly@y... writes:

>

> I have heard good things about magnesium and malic acid to help with

> pain. Today I picked up this product:

>

> http://www.performancenutritionals.com/store/Shop_By_Brand___Source_NaturalsSN

> 0261?partnerid=froogle

>

> Can you tell me if this is the right type of magnesium and the right

> dosage? This can be so confusing and it seems everyone has a

> different answer. And right now I'm really in no position to do a

> serious research project!

>

> Thanks!

>

> Jennie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> mjh

> " The Basil Book "

> http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Vit C is obviously useful in normal amounts, but in excess it can cause

irritation to the kidneys and urinary tract causing renal stones. Magnesium

and

manganese are both needed in cell repair. The magnesium ion has difficulty

traversing the cell wall a catalyst calphosan help in cell absorption.

Joy

Research Assistant to Dr Enlander

_www.enlander.com_ (http://www.enlander.com)

In a message dated 12/30/2005 10:10:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

kdrbrill@... writes:

On the other hand manganese is an almost untalked about trace mineral that

is essential

to mitochondrial function. It is also ESSENTIAL in order for the body to

use vitamin C

properly. So many people think high-dose C is harmless. Not true. High

dose C lowers or

depletes copper, magnanese and other minerals that help it work.

[Guest guest]

This is true in some cases (kidney sensitivity) but then again there

is Bob Cathcart's approach which is very interesting where in high

doses IV ascorbate functions both as pro and anti oxidant, and in the

pro oxidant sense it kills infections.

>

>

> Vit C is obviously useful in normal amounts, but in excess it can

cause

> irritation to the kidneys and urinary tract causing renal stones.

Magnesium and

> manganese are both needed in cell repair. The magnesium ion has

difficulty

> traversing the cell wall a catalyst calphosan help in cell absorption.

> Joy

> Research Assistant to Dr Enlander

> _www.enlander.com_ (http://www.enlander.com)

>

>

> In a message dated 12/30/2005 10:10:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> kdrbrill@y... writes:

>

>

> On the other hand manganese is an almost untalked about trace

mineral that

> is essential

> to mitochondrial function. It is also ESSENTIAL in order for the

body to

> use vitamin C

> properly. So many people think high-dose C is harmless. Not true.

High

> dose C lowers or

> depletes copper, magnanese and other minerals that help it work.

>

>

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