Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Whats so special about the hawthorne from his office as opposed to the local store, please? Adrienne Pig Cells: Helen Helen, Did I miss something? Is Cheney having a hard time starting the pig heart cell therapy? Peggy In a message dated 10/5/05 12:26:29 AM, writes: << In the meantime I wait for the !%$@%!@ FDA to let Cheney's pig heart cells into the country. Finally got my hawthorn from his office, started that today. They think it's helping their patients. >> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 The last I heard, from a Staff member at the clinic, is the approval hinges on formulating the exact protocol, agreeable to Dr. Cheney and the FDA, for the study, and that is what Dr. Cheney is working on or waiting for. Katrina > Helen, > > Did I miss something? Is Cheney having a hard time starting the pig heart > cell therapy? > > Peggy > > In a message dated 10/5/05 12:26:29 AM, > writes: > > << In the meantime I wait for the !%$@%!@ FDA to let Cheney's pig heart > > cells into the country. Finally got my hawthorn from his office, > > started that today. They think it's helping their patients. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 They are thinking maybe early November, it has been pushed back from August. Some kind of paperwork hold-up with the FDA. Helen > Helen, > > Did I miss something? Is Cheney having a hard time starting the pig heart > cell therapy? > > Peggy > > In a message dated 10/5/05 12:26:29 AM, > writes: > > << In the meantime I wait for the !%$@%!@ FDA to let Cheney's pig heart > > cells into the country. Finally got my hawthorn from his office, > > started that today. They think it's helping their patients. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 I don't know, he just told me it was the best kind. Mediherb label. > Whats so special about the hawthorne from his office as opposed to the local > store, please? > Adrienne > Pig Cells: Helen > > > Helen, > > Did I miss something? Is Cheney having a hard time starting the pig heart > cell therapy? > > Peggy > > In a message dated 10/5/05 12:26:29 AM, > writes: > > << In the meantime I wait for the !%$@%!@ FDA to let Cheney's pig heart > > cells into the country. Finally got my hawthorn from his office, > > started that today. They think it's helping their patients. >> > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 thanks, Helen Adrienne Pig Cells: Helen > > > Helen, > > Did I miss something? Is Cheney having a hard time starting the pig heart > cell therapy? > > Peggy > > In a message dated 10/5/05 12:26:29 AM, > writes: > > << In the meantime I wait for the !%$@%!@ FDA to let Cheney's pig heart > > cells into the country. Finally got my hawthorn from his office, > > started that today. They think it's helping their patients. >> > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 I just saw Dr. Cheney last week. Although I did have diastolic heart failure, I was in a group (only 10%) that didn't have extreme heart failure. In January, Dr. Cheney mentioned the stem cell therapy. In this visit he didn't, but instead recommended another treatment that included Hawthorne, pregnisone, magnesium with taurine shots, vitamin B-12 shots (50% more than he used to prescribe) and oxytocin. He also prescribes a multi-vitamin, along with nutrients for the gut. He still recommends co-Q Enzyme 10, neurontin, klonpin and sinequan. He disagreed with my Cardiologist and didn't want me on a beta blocker. I am following Cheney's treatment and not that of my cardiologist. > > Helen, > > > > Did I miss something? Is Cheney having a hard time starting the pig heart > > cell therapy? > > > > Peggy > > > > In a message dated 10/5/05 12:26:29 AM, > > writes: > > > > << In the meantime I wait for the !%$@%!@ FDA to let Cheney's pig heart > > > > cells into the country. Finally got my hawthorn from his office, > > > > started that today. They think it's helping their patients. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 : well, that's interesting. I called last week to ask about the pig cells and they said they were in the pipeline. I probably have the extreme heart failure, I don't know. I wonder why I'm not on B12. After watching his video tape, I intend to watch it again and take notes about things that were recommended because I was not given some of these things, and they didn't take any initiative to put me on hawthorn after he told me I would be on it. So I learned I have to take the initiative. I finally got my hawthorn and started on it yesterday. Helen > > > Helen, > > > > > > Did I miss something? Is Cheney having a hard time starting the > pig heart > > > cell therapy? > > > > > > Peggy > > > > > > In a message dated 10/5/05 12:26:29 AM, > > > > writes: > > > > > > << In the meantime I wait for the !%$@%!@ FDA to let Cheney's pig > heart > > > > > > cells into the country. Finally got my hawthorn from his office, > > > > > > started that today. They think it's helping their patients. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Helen, I received the Blue notebook and sheets with Protocol he recommended for me, which he went over at 1st appt. Then, it's been up to me to purchase/order things, either from Clinic, a pharmacy or elsewhere. He did start me on a few before I left Asheville on a plane, because of condition I was in. He is not putting everyone on the cells for heart. It is a study with FDA guidelines, and a specific number of people, who seem correct candidates for it. About 20, I think. I presume they have to hash out a bunch of details to be approved, and that's what's happening. Most likely, it's the usual procedures, but I don't really know. Katrina > > > > Helen, > > > > > > > > Did I miss something? Is Cheney having a hard time starting the > > pig heart > > > > cell therapy? > > > > > > > > Peggy > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/5/05 12:26:29 AM, > > > > > > writes: > > > > > > > > << In the meantime I wait for the !%$@%!@ FDA to let Cheney's > pig > > heart > > > > > > > > cells into the country. Finally got my hawthorn from his > office, > > > > > > > > started that today. They think it's helping their patients. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Thanks, Katrina: I didn't get any blue notebook. And I can't call them until Monday. Okay, so I want that notebook and I want B12 and I want the boulades stuff. Helen > > > > > Helen, > > > > > > > > > > Did I miss something? Is Cheney having a hard time starting the > > > pig heart > > > > > cell therapy? > > > > > > > > > > Peggy > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/5/05 12:26:29 AM, > > > > > > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > << In the meantime I wait for the !%$@%!@ FDA to let Cheney's > > pig > > > heart > > > > > > > > > > cells into the country. Finally got my hawthorn from his > > office, > > > > > > > > > > started that today. They think it's helping their patients. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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