Re: Has anyone had a DPMS challenge test?

[Guest guest]

Hi Katrien.

It is my understanding that one should not do DMPS chelation while

you still have amalgams in your teeth.

I did a hair test in 1998 which showed high levels of mercury. My

doctor wanted me to have my amalgams removed and do DMPS chelation

but I did not feel strong enough to endure the process at the time.

A few years later I started IV glutathione treatments and did them

for a couple years before removing my amalgams. These helped me

enough that I was able to have the amalgams removed and do DMPS

chelation with no problem.

I feel very strongly that the IV glutathione was the major factor in

making the process go well for me. My mercury levels were lower than

expected a few weeks after the amalgam removal and my levels dropped

quickly when I did the DMPS chelation.

IV glutathione may not be necessary for you. It does not help

everyone and other people get enough glutathione from other sources,

such as undenatured whey protein. But I think it is important to

have plenty of glutathione available when you remove your amalgams.

Also test to see that your cysteine is not high (a possible side

effect of trying to raise glutathione levels).

The removal of my amalgams and mercury chelation helped me only a

little. Some people are hurt by it. So be careful about getting

your amalgams removed and doing DMPS chelation.

Tom

> Hi everyone,

>

> I've had cfids for about 5 years. My doctor (I live in Belgium) has

> treated me with Isoprinosine (immunemodulator) and Acclydine

> (stimulates growth hormone). Since I was first diagnosed with

chronic

> fatigue syndrome I have improved the most with whey protein

> supplements. My muscle strength for instance, improved by 23% (cycle

> ergonometry test) and my immune system got stronger as well.

>

> Another doctor has suggested I take a DMPS challenge test

> (intravenous) to measure the mercury levels in my urine. I have

about

> 14 dental amalgam fillings...However, I've been reading up on the

> subject and discovered there are dangerous side effects to the

> sulfonic acid salt called DMPS, especially when it is injected while

> the patients still has amalgam fillings in his/her mouth.

>

> Has anyone had any experiences with this test?

>

> Best wishes,

> Katrien

[Guest guest]

I would have a look at dmpsbackfire.com before I took that drug.

Helen

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I've had cfids for about 5 years. My doctor (I live in Belgium)

has

> > treated me with Isoprinosine (immunemodulator) and Acclydine

> > (stimulates growth hormone). Since I was first diagnosed with

> chronic

> > fatigue syndrome I have improved the most with whey protein

> > supplements. My muscle strength for instance, improved by 23%

(cycle

> > ergonometry test) and my immune system got stronger as well.

> >

> > Another doctor has suggested I take a DMPS challenge test

> > (intravenous) to measure the mercury levels in my urine. I have

> about

> > 14 dental amalgam fillings...However, I've been reading up on the

> > subject and discovered there are dangerous side effects to the

> > sulfonic acid salt called DMPS, especially when it is injected

while

> > the patients still has amalgam fillings in his/her mouth.

> >

> > Has anyone had any experiences with this test?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Katrien

[Guest guest]

Hi Katrien,

I took the DMPS challenge test while I had 18 amalgam fillings in my

mouth (5 of them under gold crowns). I *don't* recommend it.

The doctor who recommended it to me had helped me a lot; I trusted

him. I had 4 more injections of DMPS (with the fillings still there),

even after reading dmpsbackfire.com.

It was VERY BAD. Arthritis in my knees which had been totally gone

for a couple years came back fast and strong - I was crippled with it

for several months. Other problems which had been long resolved also

returned. It was like clockwork - 2-1/2 weeks after each injection

the body went DOWN, wherever it had been weakened.

I got the amalgams replaced and changed to a doctor who specializes

in toxic metals detox; it has made a big difference for me. And I

tried to chelate too fast, and am in a relapse now because of it.

I believe that any doctor recommending DMPS while amalgams are

present doesn't understand mercury and is a danger to you. My opinion.

This issue *can* be handled safely. Good luck to you! -Lynn

[Guest guest]

> Hypothetically this could also be from the abx effect of excess

mercury being released.

**Yes, that was my understanding. Lots of mercury set loose in the

body but not taken out, so toxicity goes sky-high.

>The delay is interesting, because there are bugs that cycle...And a

Bb herx will definitely take the body down, WAAAY down. And you

mention joint pain, which is a hallmark of Lyme herx.

**Interesting. I've tested negative for Lyme, but understand that

doesn't mean much.

Yes, my knees were hit, but the other dramatic baddie was return of

major depression - overnight, full-blown, at 2-1/2 weeks after the

2nd injection. Fortunately DLPA (DL-Phenylalanine) quickly took care

of that. 500mg at 8AM and again at noon. I'm still taking the 8AM

dose, mostly out of superstition.

I'm waiting to see if chelation gets me well. (Been in a relapse too

deep to allow any chelation, but hope to resume later this summer.)

If not, I'll have to take another look at Lyme.

Take care. -Lynn

[Guest guest]

Kurt,

I think this is a really interesting idea. For people who have both

mercury buildup and ongoing bacterial infections, as many PWCs do (I

believe because of glutathione depletion), I think it's entirely

plausible that moving the mercury around in attempts to detox it

could impact the bacteria and produce herxing when they die and

release endotoxins. That's a fascinating thought! This could very

well be another possible interaction/vicious circle mechanism that

PWCs have to endure.

Rich

> Hypothetically this could also be from the abx effect of excess

mercury

> being released. The delay is interesting, because there are bugs

that

> cycle. People using Salt/C for Lyme are herxing on a regular

schedule,

> usually from 2 ½ weeks to about 4-5 week intervals. And mercury

at one

> time was used to treat syphilis, a cousin to Borrelia

burgdorferi. And

> a Bb herx will definitely take the body down, WAAAY down. And you

> mention joint pain, which is a hallmark of Lyme herx.

>

> --Kurt

>

> SPAM-LOW: Re: Has anyone had a DPMS

> challenge test?

>

> Hi Katrien,

>

> I took the DMPS challenge test while I had 18 amalgam fillings in

my

> mouth (5 of them under gold crowns). I *don't* recommend it.

>

> The doctor who recommended it to me had helped me a lot; I trusted

> him. I had 4 more injections of DMPS (with the fillings still

there),

> even after reading dmpsbackfire.com.

>

> It was VERY BAD. Arthritis in my knees which had been totally gone

> for a couple years came back fast and strong - I was crippled with

it

> for several months. Other problems which had been long resolved

also

> returned. It was like clockwork - 2-1/2 weeks after each injection

> the body went DOWN, wherever it had been weakened.

>

> I got the amalgams replaced and changed to a doctor who

specializes

> in toxic metals detox; it has made a big difference for me. And I

> tried to chelate too fast, and am in a relapse now because of it.

>

> I believe that any doctor recommending DMPS while amalgams are

> present doesn't understand mercury and is a danger to you. My

opinion.

>

> This issue *can* be handled safely. Good luck to you! -Lynn

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

with

> each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in

any

> treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,

Thanks very much for sharing your experience. It has helped me make a

decision. I will tell my doctor I will not take the DPMS-test due to

the severe health risks involved.

However, I will consult a biological dentist and ask her if she can

replace the fillings with white ones. I believe a certain protocol has

to be followed in order to replace them in a correct and healthy way,

right?

I wish you all the best.

Katrien

> Hi Katrien,

>

> I took the DMPS challenge test while I had 18 amalgam fillings in my

> mouth (5 of them under gold crowns). I *don't* recommend it.

>

> The doctor who recommended it to me had helped me a lot; I trusted

> him. I had 4 more injections of DMPS (with the fillings still there),

> even after reading dmpsbackfire.com.

>

> It was VERY BAD. Arthritis in my knees which had been totally gone

> for a couple years came back fast and strong - I was crippled with it

> for several months. Other problems which had been long resolved also

> returned. It was like clockwork - 2-1/2 weeks after each injection

> the body went DOWN, wherever it had been weakened.

>

> I got the amalgams replaced and changed to a doctor who specializes

> in toxic metals detox; it has made a big difference for me. And I

> tried to chelate too fast, and am in a relapse now because of it.

>

> I believe that any doctor recommending DMPS while amalgams are

> present doesn't understand mercury and is a danger to you. My opinion.

>

> This issue *can* be handled safely. Good luck to you! -Lynn