Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Thanks for posting this. Everyone should try it to see how it goes. gayu_pwc7 <gayu_pwc7@...> wrote: " info@... " wrote:From: " info@... " Subject: A Free Gift From Dr. Teitelbaum - Time To Get Well Now! Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:11:07 -0500 Dear Readers, In our endeavor to make effective treatment available for everyone with CFS and Fibromyalgia, we have long had the policy of allowing those on Medicaid to use our www.Vitality101.com computer program (which usually costs $88-$160 to use) for free. Unfortunately, we have found that many sufferers, even though not destitute enough to qualify for Medicaid, still cannot afford to do the computer program. Because of this, we have decided to supply our e-mail subscribers with a code that will allow you to do the program for free during the next 3 weeks! WHAT THE PROGRAM DOES Our sophisticated and patented web site program will analyze your symptoms (and, if you have had them done, the pertinent lab test results) to determine which of over 50 different problems are likely causing and/or contributing to your illness. It then TAILORS A TREATMENT PROGRAM TO YOUR SPECIFIC CASE! Although prescription therapies are also recommended in case your doctor will work with you, the protocol can also be done all naturally without a prescription, and the program will teach you how to do this. Thousands of people who have done our program have been thrilled with the results. As shown in our landmark placebo controlled study (which can also be seen at www.Vitality101.com) over 85% of patients with CFS and fibromyalgia can improve significantly with treatment, and over 50% can be PAIN FREE within 100 days. I invite you to do the computer program FREE (and save $88) during the next 3 weeks. For the last 30 years, since I overcame CFS/Fibromyalgia, my goal has been straight forward-making effective treatment available for everyone. It's time for you to GET WELL NOW as well! If you would like to do the computer program, simply follow the directions and use the free code below. But do it before April 10, 2005 so you can do it for free! Love and best wishes, Teitelbaum MD Instructions - Go to www.Vitality101.com .Then: 1. Click on the “Online Program” button on the left sidebar 2. Click “Register to Start or Continue Program” 3. Click on “Disclaimer” at the bottom, read disclaimer and click “Return” at the bottom left 4. If you accept the disclaimer – click “I have read & accept these terms & disclaimer” 5. Click “Click here for new registration” 6. Fill out contact information and click “submit” – please make a record of your User Name _________________ and Password __________________ here. 7. Wait 5-10 minutes and click to start the questionnaire. 8. Enter your User name (name exactly as you entered it in the contact information – first & last name) and password. 9. Click “complete basic information” at the top, fill out your information and instead of your credit card info ,check off " SHORT PROGRAM " and enter your FREE Code which is fftfwell2005sf where it says to enter " prepaid code number " . Click “Done – Continue to next step” 10. Click “Create Section 1” 11. When you finish section 1, click “Save-Mark Complete”. Then click on " Create Section 2 " . When that section is done, click “Save-Mark Complete” again. Then click on " Create Section 3 if you have lab results to enter. If not, you can print a preliminary report (see #12 below) and enter the labs later if you'd like. 12. When the first 2 (or 3 if you have your lab results) sections are done, go to the bottom of “Create Section” page. You can see your probable diagnoses and recommended treatments on screen by pushing the respective button or review and print out: A. the likely problems contributing to your illness and detailed treatment recommendations and B. general teaching sheets for your case by pushing each button. Push one of these 2 buttons, then click “print” in the section. Repeat for the next section. At any time while you are doing the questionnaire, you can Click “Save – Mark Incomplete” if you want to stop but you’ve not completed a section. Either way you can go back and changes things UNTIL you print the Final Report. Even after the Final Report is done, you can add new lab values in Section 3 and get an updated report (for 6 months). To review your answers or change answers, double click on “Section __ complete or incomplete” – that will take you to the review page (you can not make changes on the review page itself). To make changes, click “click here to make changes to this section” on top of the page to return to the questionnaire. --------------------------------- Do you ? Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 > Thousands of people who have done our program have been thrilled with the results. > > As shown in our landmark placebo controlled study (which can also be seen at www.Vitality101.com) over 85% of patients with CFS and fibromyalgia can improve significantly with treatment, and over 50% can be PAIN FREE within 100 days. Can we get some testimonies from these thrilled thousands before everybody launches into this one? I find it just a little peculiar that this program is called " vitality " like it is a pep pill. Last time I looked, " CFS " was a devastating illness that involved neurological, endocrine, and immune function dysregulation. " Vitality " ???? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Hi , I tend to agree with you about Dr. T's diagnosis and recovery. I am not so sure of what's going over there. On the other hand, I don't see any BAD advice coming from his camp either. I took the test - to the best of my ability as i have no lab work to plug in. Heck, it's free. It is short, and if you have labs results to plug in, it might be quite good. I have not yet studied my results intently (skimmed so far) I think it looks pretty good - no risky advice, quite detailed. You know, you get what you pay for with these things. The amount of Dr. care I see on this list that you-all have, you probably won't be told anything new. I think the software program itself is impressive. It appears thorough and well-written. All documents seem really well thought- out. I am impressed with good software because I understand what goes into it's development. The 30 page report I got would be a marketer's dream. It would be or may be a fabulous marketing tool with info that doesn't hurt anybody. Some medications are by prescription and both generic and name brand are listed, the supplements suggested - same thing. It is really smart to give it away. I will keep my report around for a while and see how useful it ultimately becomes. *S* > > > > Thousands of people who have done our program have been thrilled > with the results. > > > > As shown in our landmark placebo controlled study (which can also > be seen at www.Vitality101.com) over 85% of patients with CFS and > fibromyalgia can improve significantly with treatment, and over 50% > can be PAIN FREE within 100 days. > > > Can we get some testimonies from these thrilled thousands before > everybody launches into this one? > I find it just a little peculiar that this program is > called " vitality " like it is a pep pill. > > Last time I looked, " CFS " was a devastating illness that involved > neurological, endocrine, and immune function dysregulation. > > " Vitality " ???? > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 I checked Dr. Teitelbaum's site and saw no info on this free service. This was a quick check I need to look once more but please be careful and make sure that it is safe before signing up to that site. Nil A Free Gift From Dr. Teitelbaum - Time To Get Well Now! Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:11:07 -0500 Dear Readers, In our endeavor to make effective treatment available for everyone with CFS and Fibromyalgia, we have long had the policy of allowing those on Medicaid to use our www.Vitality101.com computer program (which usually costs $88-$160 to use) for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 would some one who has done the test, post their report so other can see what sort of advice in general is being offered. > > > Hi , > I tend to agree with you about Dr. T's diagnosis and recovery. I am > not so sure of what's going over there. On the other hand, I don't > see any BAD advice coming from his camp either. > I took the test - to the best of my ability as i have no lab work to > plug in. Heck, it's free. > It is short, and if you have labs results to plug in, it might be > quite good. I have not yet studied my results intently (skimmed so > far) I think it looks pretty good - no risky advice, quite detailed. > You know, you get what you pay for with these things. The amount of > Dr. care I see on this list that you-all have, you probably won't be > told anything new. > I think the software program itself is impressive. It appears > thorough and well-written. All documents seem really well thought- > out. I am impressed with good software because I understand what goes > into it's development. > The 30 page report I got would be a marketer's dream. It would be or > may be a fabulous marketing tool with info that doesn't hurt anybody. > Some medications are by prescription and both generic and name brand > are listed, the supplements suggested - same thing. > It is really smart to give it away. I will keep my report around for > a while and see how useful it ultimately becomes. > *S* > > > >> >> >>> Thousands of people who have done our program have been thrilled >> with the results. >>> >>> As shown in our landmark placebo controlled study (which can also >> be seen at www.Vitality101.com) over 85% of patients with CFS and >> fibromyalgia can improve significantly with treatment, and over 50% >> can be PAIN FREE within 100 days. >> >> >> Can we get some testimonies from these thrilled thousands before >> everybody launches into this one? >> I find it just a little peculiar that this program is >> called " vitality " like it is a pep pill. >> >> Last time I looked, " CFS " was a devastating illness that involved >> neurological, endocrine, and immune function dysregulation. >> >> " Vitality " ???? >> >> - > > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with > each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any > treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Imagine at your Disability Hearing, having someone hold up a copy of FFtoF and saying " It's time to get well! " and quoting those marvelous 85% improved rates. I am all in favor of throwing ALL the good advice at people and trying ANYTHING that might help, but the underlying implications of Teitelbaums approach are DEVASTATING in the social context. That's why I feel it is important that he BACK DOWN on his causality and cure claims, if he really cares about what happens to the CFS community. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 I see Dr. Teitelbaum¹s name and advice everywhere these days. Unfortunately, when magazines finally cover CFS (often as a sidebar on a fatigue article), he¹s often the only one quoted. In fact, I was just writing a letter to the editor of Natural Health on exactly this subject; Teitelbaum said in their article that CFIDS is ³very treatable.² Why, then, are there so many of us on these lists, desperate for even a small bit of improvement? I agree with others here who¹ve said he doesn¹t seem to be recommending anything harmful, but his claims harm the CFS community and public opinion. I read his FF to F book when I was first diagnosed (those promises do suck you in!). In my view, his biggest mistake is that he lumps general ³chronic fatigue² with CFS/CFIDS and, in doing so, misses some of the key characteristics of CFS. In that whole book, he hardly even mentions exercise intolerance or immune system dysfunction. He seems to focus mainly on the endocrine system and on metabolic function. In my experience with my own CFS, immune dysfunction is at the heart of the illness. In his little sidebar in Natural Health, he lists symptoms of CFS without mentioning recurrent sore throat/swollen glands or post-exertional crashes. His advice might be helpful for those suffering from the symptom of chronic fatigue due to other causes but certainly does a disservice to those of us with CFS/CFIDS. It¹s at least some consolation to know that others out there see him this way as well. I wish CFIDS were very treatable! I¹m sure when effective treatments are found, we¹ll all be hearing about them, not just one doctor. Sue J > Imagine at your Disability Hearing, having someone hold up a copy of > FFtoF and saying " It's time to get well! " and quoting those > marvelous 85% improved rates. > > I am all in favor of throwing ALL the good advice at people and > trying ANYTHING that might help, but the underlying implications of > Teitelbaums approach are DEVASTATING in the social context. > > That's why I feel it is important that he BACK DOWN on his causality > and cure claims, if he really cares about what happens to the CFS > community. > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 I just took the online test from his site. It does ask about sore throats and tender lymph nodes as well as exercise intolerance. It has you plug in lab test results. My problem is that my lab tests results are pretty old at this point. Plus the nature of my illness has changed. I never did have much of a sore throat except when I had strep throat twenty years ago. I've been told my lymph glands are enlarged but they've been that way for so long it seems normal to me. I used to have a long grade fever at the beginning or when the illness got bad, but don't think I do now. My exercise intolerance is as bad as it was when I was running those temps and didn't know what was wrong with me twenty years ago. My test results on T's site were pointing at yeast, some kind of occult infection treatable by antibiotics (never asked me if I was allergic) did ask if I was on blood thinners, but not sure if that is part of his arsenal. The arsenal is the usual mix of drugs and supplements we talk about here. One of the Teitelbaum trained doctors would be better than the average doctor but I don't think they should be promising a cure. Stoff kept telling me I would get better but I didn't. When I asked Cheney he said he didn't know. An honest answer. Helen > I see Dr. Teitelbaum¹s name and advice everywhere these days. > Unfortunately, when magazines finally cover CFS (often as a sidebar on a > fatigue article), he¹s often the only one quoted. In fact, I was just > writing a letter to the editor of Natural Health on exactly this subject; > Teitelbaum said in their article that CFIDS is ³very treatable.² Why, then, > are there so many of us on these lists, desperate for even a small bit of > improvement? > > I agree with others here who¹ve said he doesn¹t seem to be recommending > anything harmful, but his claims harm the CFS community and public opinion. > > I read his FF to F book when I was first diagnosed (those promises do suck > you in!). In my view, his biggest mistake is that he lumps general > ³chronic fatigue² with CFS/CFIDS and, in doing so, misses some of the key > characteristics of CFS. In that whole book, he hardly even mentions > exercise intolerance or immune system dysfunction. He seems to focus mainly > on the endocrine system and on metabolic function. In my experience with my > own CFS, immune dysfunction is at the heart of the illness. > > In his little sidebar in Natural Health, he lists symptoms of CFS without > mentioning recurrent sore throat/swollen glands or post-exertional crashes. > His advice might be helpful for those suffering from the symptom of chronic > fatigue due to other causes but certainly does a disservice to those of us > with CFS/CFIDS. It¹s at least some consolation to know that others out > there see him this way as well. > > I wish CFIDS were very treatable! I¹m sure when effective treatments are > found, we¹ll all be hearing about them, not just one doctor. > > Sue J > > > > Imagine at your Disability Hearing, having someone hold up a copy of > > FFtoF and saying " It's time to get well! " and quoting those > > marvelous 85% improved rates. > > > > I am all in favor of throwing ALL the good advice at people and > > trying ANYTHING that might help, but the underlying implications of > > Teitelbaums approach are DEVASTATING in the social context. > > > > That's why I feel it is important that he BACK DOWN on his causality > > and cure claims, if he really cares about what happens to the CFS > > community. > > - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Helen: I got similar results as yours. o > > I see Dr. Teitelbaum¹s name and advice everywhere these days. > > Unfortunately, when magazines finally cover CFS (often as a sidebar > on a > > fatigue article), he¹s often the only one quoted. In fact, I was > just > > writing a letter to the editor of Natural Health on exactly this > subject; > > Teitelbaum said in their article that CFIDS is ³very treatable.² > Why, then, > > are there so many of us on these lists, desperate for even a small > bit of > > improvement? > > > > I agree with others here who¹ve said he doesn¹t seem to be > recommending > > anything harmful, but his claims harm the CFS community and public > opinion. > > > > I read his FF to F book when I was first diagnosed (those promises > do suck > > you in!). In my view, his biggest mistake is that he lumps general > > ³chronic fatigue² with CFS/CFIDS and, in doing so, misses some of > the key > > characteristics of CFS. In that whole book, he hardly even mentions > > exercise intolerance or immune system dysfunction. He seems to > focus mainly > > on the endocrine system and on metabolic function. In my > experience with my > > own CFS, immune dysfunction is at the heart of the illness. > > > > In his little sidebar in Natural Health, he lists symptoms of CFS > without > > mentioning recurrent sore throat/swollen glands or post-exertional > crashes. > > His advice might be helpful for those suffering from the symptom of > chronic > > fatigue due to other causes but certainly does a disservice to > those of us > > with CFS/CFIDS. It¹s at least some consolation to know that others > out > > there see him this way as well. > > > > I wish CFIDS were very treatable! I¹m sure when effective > treatments are > > found, we¹ll all be hearing about them, not just one doctor. > > > > Sue J > > > > > > > Imagine at your Disability Hearing, having someone hold up a copy > of > > > FFtoF and saying " It's time to get well! " and quoting those > > > marvelous 85% improved rates. > > > > > > I am all in favor of throwing ALL the good advice at people and > > > trying ANYTHING that might help, but the underlying implications > of > > > Teitelbaums approach are DEVASTATING in the social context. > > > > > > That's why I feel it is important that he BACK DOWN on his > causality > > > and cure claims, if he really cares about what happens to the CFS > > > community. > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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