Re: Ionized Water and Parasites

[Guest guest]

Dear JOSKAT95

While I'm not recommending it, I did read of an experiment in the New

York Times Science Section where parasitic worms were used as a

treatment for inflammnatory bowel disease. The worms used normally live

in the intestine of pigs so they were not able to reproduce in the human

hosts and were passed through the system.

The experiment was designed to test a hunch: Adults in developed

countries suffer from more autoimmune diseases than adults in

underdeveloped countries. The hunch is that maybe the exposure to

parasites which almost all children in underdeveloped countries

experience has some later-life beneficial effects.

It's not a major area of inquiry for me, so I'm not making a case of it,

just thought it was intersting and was also wondering what the markers

were for parasites. If there was in fact a marker for parasites or if

what the tests read were the bodies reaction to the presence of

parasites which in some of these children might be a false read of a

disregulated immune system.

[Guest guest]

I don't know anything about ionized water, but it seems that if you get a

really good water filter you wouldn't have to worry about parasites

Kate

[Guest guest]

Rosemarie,

I don't have any information on ionized water but I have a question.

When you write that parasites keep coming up on the tests, what is the

reading that indicates this? Are there readings for parasites or is it

an immune marker that indicates parasites?

The reason I ask is because I read of an interesting study not long ago

where the researcher wanted to test the hypothesis that some autoimmune

diseases in adults were a result of the absence of parasitic worms early

in life which, according to this hypothesis, had the effect of

" training " the immune system early. According to this theory when the

immune system does not get this training it turns on the self.

To test the theory the researcher gave 6 adults who suffered from an

autoimmune form of inflammnatory bowel disease a liquid to drink that

contained the eggs of common parasitic worms. Five of the six adults

went into complete remission and a 6th improved dramatically.

In light of that I am wondering if the readings on the tests you are

recieving are actually measuring parasites or immune reactions that

would be associated with parasites.

Bounds

[Guest guest]

I had a water ionizer unit on my swimming pool. The copper electrodes zap

bacteria, and silver zapped algae. This ionization is a small electrical

current that passes through the metal diodes, and tiny amount of metal goes

into the water to kill parasites. The method was invented by NASA for the

astronauts drinking water. If the water is too soft, hardening agent like

calcium is added. Also salt is needed for conductivity. My main concern

would be the conductive agent used in the water that is ionized. Calcium is

fine, but what about the salt? Also, watch the amount of copper in it.

Some of our kids have elevated copper levels already.

Ionized Water and Parasites

>From: rdubrowsky@...

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>I was just wondering if anyone had/is using ionized water with their

children.

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>I have been going to a natural pharmacist and looking at Danny's red blood

cells

>and working on using enzymes to assist him with digetion and assimilation

of

>vitamins, etc. I was at the DAN! conference and I am interested in the

enzymes

>developed by Klaire and have them on order.

>

>One thing that keeps popping up in the tests for yeast with Danny are

various

>parasites.

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>As a result of that, the natural pharmacist said that the ionized water

would be

>great because the ph is higher in this water and the parasites and other

>bacteria cannot live in this environment.

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>The ionizer is almost $800, but I have been trying to rid these " bugs " from

his

>system and have spent at least that much.

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>Anyone have any experience with this?

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>thanks.

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>Rosemarie

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[Guest guest]

,

I recall reading about this research and it reminded me of something

I had read about. There were maggots used to clean wounds. This made

me wonder if instead if believing that the intestinal parasites were missing

from our children's gut due to too much cleanliness of our culture, perhaps

the introduced worms fed on the yeast colonies that are prolific in the gut

reducing them to the point where they are causing less havoc and allowing

gut healing.

Jean

>The reason I ask is because I read of an interesting study not long ago

>where the researcher wanted to test the hypothesis that some autoimmune

>diseases in adults were a result of the absence of parasitic worms early

>in life which, according to this hypothesis, had the effect of

> " training " the immune system early. According to this theory when the

>immune system does not get this training it turns on the self.

>

>To test the theory the researcher gave 6 adults who suffered from an

>autoimmune form of inflammnatory bowel disease a liquid to drink that

>contained the eggs of common parasitic worms. Five of the six adults

>went into complete remission and a 6th improved dramatically.

> Bounds

[Guest guest]

Rosemarie,

I use a countertop water distiller for my son's water, wouldn't that kill

parasites since it's boiled? I bought mine at sears for less than $100. It

might be a cheaper alternative.

Aimee

[Guest guest]

Maggots were used to debride wounds. They were not taken internally. there is

no parasite that I am aware of that is helpful to humans or animals for that

matter. The ones that don't directly cause disease end up in nasty places

such as the liver or the brain where they cause the premature death of their

host. While it is true that people in 3rd world countries can and do live

with parasites and in some parts of the world people have very possibly

adapted to some types (sickle cell anemia is possibly an adaptation to

malaria) these relationships are never beneficial to the human host.

[Guest guest]

I used a Sears tabletop distiller for years until I read that distilled water

is not good for you--no electrolytes--unless you used distilled and then add

your own electrolytes

Kate

[Guest guest]

Hmmm....I know I had worms for awhile when I was a child, drank well water

(no chlorine), ate mud pies, played in the dirt all day until I was covered

with it, stepped on nails regularly, played with bugs, cats, dogs and

whatever critters I could catch incessantly, had all the childhood diseases

(no vaccinations except smallpox)....and I was as healthy as a horse!

Zounds...I've discovered the cure to autism! DIRT!!

M.

[Guest guest]

Tests to determine parasites varies depending upon what you are looking for.

The most common here in this country would be a stool specimen looking for

the eggs or the actual parasites, others show up in bloodwork, many hide in

the liver so sometimes a liver biopsy is done, or you can look in the bile

aspirated from the duodenum, sometimes they are under the skin so you remove

the lesion. Parasites can certainly kill their hosts but usually don't,

although I have seen people develop permanent neurological changes from

parasites in their brain. Parasites will certainly weaken their host and they

are one of the contributing factors to the high morbidity and mortality rates

in third world countries.