Re: 17 keto-DHEA, tinnitus (DMSO)--lyme test info (Q-RIBb)

[Guest guest]

I had emailed Dr Whitaker at Bowen abt a month ago, with some questions I had

regarding the testing, cost, etc - and have not received a response(her email

address was the only address given on their site- if there had been another

address, would have been glad to have tried that also). Do you happen to know

the best way thru which to contact them and get a response? (I am assuming that

there is also a lab located at Bowen, not just Dr Whitaker's office? So then

there should be more than one person at Bowen?) Thank you for any insight or

info you can give me on this - les -----

Original Message -----

From: shogi64

Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:24 PM

Subject: 17 keto-DHEA, tinnitus (DMSO)--lyme test info

(Q-RIBb)

Hi Group,

Anybody try any of these.

the 7keto DHEA supposedly doesn't convert to estrogen as DHEA, but

need to double check.

Any good tinnitus remedies out there...been meaning to research this

some but came across some stuff with DMSO. If somebody could put

together some links on tinnitus and possible remedies that would be

great. Any takers, i'm busy on other stuff...

Has anybody ever done straight DMSO, let's just say I've heard of a

few people that get the IV's (but not for CFS).

Waiting on the liquid eldepryl(decided to go with drops) Keep you

posted.

btw:

http://www.gordonresearch.com/answers/chronic_infections_products_trea

tments_that_work.html

Q-RIBb vs. Igenex for Lyme test? Can't cost much for a 20 min. test

and checks for babesia.

Fortunately, Joanne Whitaker, whom I mentioned last month, has solved

the problem of false negatives. Not only has Dr. Whitaker faced her

own long-standing chronic Lyme disease from childhood, but she's also

a specialist in infectious diseases, hematology/oncology, and has

many medical certifications.

Dr. Whitaker has developed what appears to be the most reliable test

ever for Lyme disease. Her lab actually tests for the presence of the

bug itself, not just the antibodies. And, resting my concerns, she

told me that her methods also detect the cell wall deficient (CWD)

form. Her test is called Q-RIBb for quantitative rapid identification

of Bb (the abbreviation of Lyme disease's scientific name). The test

simply uses an antibody to Lyme derived from animals that's modified

to carry a fluorescent molecule. The antibodies will attach to both

the spirochete form and the CWD form and, under the right color, will

light up under a microscope. With this test, Dr. Whitaker not only

can detect Lyme directly, but she can do it in only 20 minutes and

she can tell you how bad the infection is by the number of bugs

present.

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

I believe she is ill right now, she was a no show at a recent

convention. Did you try calling?

From their website: Main: 727-937-9077 Fax: 727-942-9687

17 keto-DHEA, tinnitus (DMSO)--lyme test

info (Q-RIBb)

Hi Group,

Anybody try any of these.

the 7keto DHEA supposedly doesn't convert to estrogen as DHEA, but

need to double check.

Any good tinnitus remedies out there...been meaning to research this

some but came across some stuff with DMSO. If somebody could put

together some links on tinnitus and possible remedies that would be

great. Any takers, i'm busy on other stuff...

Has anybody ever done straight DMSO, let's just say I've heard of a

few people that get the IV's (but not for CFS).

Waiting on the liquid eldepryl(decided to go with drops) Keep you

posted.

btw:

http://www.gordonresearch.com/answers/chronic_infections_products_trea

tments_that_work.html

Q-RIBb vs. Igenex for Lyme test? Can't cost much for a 20 min. test

and checks for babesia.

Fortunately, Joanne Whitaker, whom I mentioned last month, has solved

the problem of false negatives. Not only has Dr. Whitaker faced her

own long-standing chronic Lyme disease from childhood, but she's also

a specialist in infectious diseases, hematology/oncology, and has

many medical certifications.

Dr. Whitaker has developed what appears to be the most reliable test

ever for Lyme disease. Her lab actually tests for the presence of the

bug itself, not just the antibodies. And, resting my concerns, she

told me that her methods also detect the cell wall deficient (CWD)

form. Her test is called Q-RIBb for quantitative rapid identification

of Bb (the abbreviation of Lyme disease's scientific name). The test

simply uses an antibody to Lyme derived from animals that's modified

to carry a fluorescent molecule. The antibodies will attach to both

the spirochete form and the CWD form and, under the right color, will

light up under a microscope. With this test, Dr. Whitaker not only

can detect Lyme directly, but she can do it in only 20 minutes and

she can tell you how bad the infection is by the number of bugs

present.

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

I had something help with my tinnitis but it wasn't intentional.

When trying various ABX my doc thought we should give Cipro a whirl.

Right off I started noticing a bit of dizziness whnne I would bend

over, didn't give it to much thought. About night 4, I was woken up

by a severe bout of vertigo. I thought I was going to die, the room

was just swirling around. Didn't matter if I sat up or layed down. I

literally managed to crawl down stairs to get my husband, and he

called the pharmacy. Sure enough Cipro can cause vertigo. Stopped

and over the days, the vertigo subsided, but so did a lot of the

tinnitis in my right ear.

Later I did some research on Cipro and it can accumulate in the

inner ear, and it can cause deafness. So was I having an inner ear

herx? I kind of think that is what it was. Been scared to death to

try it again though, but I have definetly thought about it. Right

ear has continued to have less tinnitis to this day and it has

probably been 2 1/2 years at least.

- In , " shogi64 " <shogi64@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Group,

> Anybody try any of these.

> the 7keto DHEA supposedly doesn't convert to estrogen as DHEA, but

> need to double check.

>

> Any good tinnitus remedies out there...been meaning to research

this

> some but came across some stuff with DMSO. If somebody could put

> together some links on tinnitus and possible remedies that would

be

> great. Any takers, i'm busy on other stuff...

>

> Has anybody ever done straight DMSO, let's just say I've heard of

a

> few people that get the IV's (but not for CFS).

>

> Waiting on the liquid eldepryl(decided to go with drops) Keep you

> posted.

>

> btw:

>

>

http://www.gordonresearch.com/answers/chronic_infections_products_tre

a

> tments_that_work.html

> Q-RIBb vs. Igenex for Lyme test? Can't cost much for a 20 min.

test

> and checks for babesia.

>

> Fortunately, Joanne Whitaker, whom I mentioned last month, has

solved

> the problem of false negatives. Not only has Dr. Whitaker faced

her

> own long-standing chronic Lyme disease from childhood, but she's

also

> a specialist in infectious diseases, hematology/oncology, and has

> many medical certifications.

> Dr. Whitaker has developed what appears to be the most reliable

test

> ever for Lyme disease. Her lab actually tests for the presence of

the

> bug itself, not just the antibodies. And, resting my concerns, she

> told me that her methods also detect the cell wall deficient (CWD)

> form. Her test is called Q-RIBb for quantitative rapid

identification

> of Bb (the abbreviation of Lyme disease's scientific name). The

test

> simply uses an antibody to Lyme derived from animals that's

modified

> to carry a fluorescent molecule. The antibodies will attach to

both

> the spirochete form and the CWD form and, under the right color,

will

> light up under a microscope. With this test, Dr. Whitaker not only

> can detect Lyme directly, but she can do it in only 20 minutes and

> she can tell you how bad the infection is by the number of bugs

> present.