Re: Glyconutrients--NT factor vs PS-100? [Caution about PS]

[Guest guest]

Shogi64 wrote: " ...since I am already using PS-100

(phophatidylserine ,phosphatidylcholine) I fail to see the added

benefit? $

" PS is a natural phospholipid that is an essential component of cell

membranes...and...is a concentrated form of PS derived from an

enzymatic process of soy phospholipids "

bg: I want to alert you to the possibility that PS, in spite of its

good press, can have very bad results for some people with chronic

illnesses. I've posted this information before.

Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:39 AM

Subject: Phosphatidylserine contra-indicated for neurological &

immune patients

Group,

I found a section in The Detoxx Book Physicians Guide (available

from E-lyte at 1-866-293-3945), on Phosphatidylserine (PS). There

were numerous findings from research (Majumder 2002, et al) that

pointed that PS is implicated in thrombosis on platelet-derived

membranes containing surface-exposed PS. Also, it can trigger

activation of key down-stream steps in blood coagulation via

exposure of otherwise buried PS.

The concluding paragraph of a full page section on PS was:

" In light of above research which does not support the use of PS for

memory enhancement, along with the role of PS in thrombosis and

apoptotic signaling, phosphatidylserine may be inappropriate for

patients with neurological or immune conditions. "

> >

> > What is in Ambrotose is described at:

> > http://www.drugs.com/PDR/Ambrotose_Capsules.html

> > I have been taking Ambrotose for 6 weeks now and only feel

worse.

> The first

> > > 5 days I felt better than things went downhill fast. > Suzanne

>

> I don't like MLM's either. Seems that B1,3 glucan and IP6 would

be a

> better choice, and cheaper...

> Anybody know what is the proprietary ingredient in NT factor? It

> seems this is also a glycophospholid derived from soy. other than

the

> added alpha-KG (which as I recall is part of Krebs cycle) I don't

see

> anything special about it either, other than $...my doc sells it

> (which I don't like either--ethical conflict) and suggested using

> it...since I am already using PS-100 (phophatidylserine,

> phosphatidylcholine) I fail to see the added benefit? $

>

> " PS is a natural phospholipid that is an essential component of

cell

> membranes...and...is a concentrated form of PS derived from an

> enzymatic process of soy phospholipids "

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I had wonderful results with taking PS the last several years it

does wonders for my bad memory. After reading about what other

people have to say about it I bought a bottle of phosphatidyl

choline today which I have heard is wonderful. I threw away a

bottle several years ago and after taking it today I know why. I am

so sleepy after taking it and it has happened twice today and my

head feels terrible like brain fog. Does anyone have this effect

with PC? I do take an asprin a day maybe that's why I didn't have

any trouble with the PS.

Thanks,

H.

>

> Shogi64 wrote: " ...since I am already using PS-100

> (phophatidylserine ,phosphatidylcholine) I fail to see the added

> benefit? $

> " PS is a natural phospholipid that is an essential component of

cell

> membranes...and...is a concentrated form of PS derived from an

> enzymatic process of soy phospholipids "

>

> bg: I want to alert you to the possibility that PS, in spite of

its

> good press, can have very bad results for some people with chronic

> illnesses. I've posted this information before.

> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:39 AM

> Subject: Phosphatidylserine contra-indicated for neurological &

> immune patients

>

> Group,

>

> I found a section in The Detoxx Book Physicians Guide (available

> from E-lyte at 1-866-293-3945), on Phosphatidylserine (PS). There

> were numerous findings from research (Majumder 2002, et al) that

> pointed that PS is implicated in thrombosis on platelet-derived

> membranes containing surface-exposed PS. Also, it can trigger

> activation of key down-stream steps in blood coagulation via

> exposure of otherwise buried PS.

>

> The concluding paragraph of a full page section on PS was:

> " In light of above research which does not support the use of PS

for

> memory enhancement, along with the role of PS in thrombosis and

> apoptotic signaling, phosphatidylserine may be inappropriate for

> patients with neurological or immune conditions. "

>

>

> > >

> > > What is in Ambrotose is described at:

> > > http://www.drugs.com/PDR/Ambrotose_Capsules.html

> > > I have been taking Ambrotose for 6 weeks now and only feel

> worse.

> > The first

> > > > 5 days I felt better than things went downhill fast. >

Suzanne

> >

> > I don't like MLM's either. Seems that B1,3 glucan and IP6 would

> be a

> > better choice, and cheaper...

> > Anybody know what is the proprietary ingredient in NT factor?

It

> > seems this is also a glycophospholid derived from soy. other

than

> the

> > added alpha-KG (which as I recall is part of Krebs cycle) I

don't

> see

> > anything special about it either, other than $...my doc sells it

> > (which I don't like either--ethical conflict) and suggested

using

> > it...since I am already using PS-100 (phophatidylserine,

> > phosphatidylcholine) I fail to see the added benefit? $

> >

> > " PS is a natural phospholipid that is an essential component of

> cell

> > membranes...and...is a concentrated form of PS derived from an

> > enzymatic process of soy phospholipids "