Re: Goatien

March 10, 2005

Helen: Can you have nut butters (almond butter, peanut butter, macadamia nut

butter, cashew butter, sesame seed butter)? Raw nut butters are preferable over

roasted and salted but they add great protein if you are staying away from

animal sources. You can add your own salt to them if you want more salt. Add

the nut butters to apple slices, celery, rye krisp crackers (get the wheat free,

sesame seed ones if you can find them). There are excellent spelt and rice

yeast-free breads that toasted with nut butters are tasty. Raw nuts, of course,

will give your protein that balances out ~ just watch out for roasted nuts with

oils (many are rancid or not the best oils for our bodies). I know how the

protein thing is with food allergies~I was a vegetarian for 15 years and started

eating meat again because I was so hungry for protein. I now eat lamb, turkey,

beef, salmon and buffalo from sources without antibiotics, etc. I feel better

than I did on the vegetarian diet because all I was eating I was allergic to

(wheat, soy, corn, rice, etc.). I used to make homemade patties (eggs, oats,

spinach, carrots, etc.) but can no longer tolerate the combinations of things

like I used to eat. Hope this helps a bit. in La Selva Beach, CA

Goatien

I just started taking this product, hoping it can be something of a

replacement for ImmunePro which I used to take until I decided to get

serious about my food allergies, and dairy was one of the worst on my

ALCAT test.

This gives me some protein in the morning and it isn't horrible. I

put it in rice milk. Have tried goat cheese and milk, they make me

nauseous. Allergic to eggs and wheat and soy, so what to have for

protein in the morning has been an issue. Can't get goat yogurt here,

have had some and it was okay.

The literature I read on this said it had glutathione precursors in

it, so I am hoping it will be somewhat like ImmunePro.

Anyone know anything about it?

Helen

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

March 10, 2005

Hi :

Thanks for writing. Yes, I eat nuts and nut butters but don't seem to

get much of a protein kick from them alone. I was a vegetarian for

many years, including the time I got ill with CFIDS, and was eating

all the things I'm allergic to, unknowingly, as the base of my diet.

Now I'm eating free range meat and it feels better, but it's hard to

eat meat in the morning, too heavy.

So far the Goatien is okay. Just wondering if it will do the same

thing as ImmunePro.

Helen

> Helen: Can you have nut butters (almond butter, peanut butter,

macadamia nut butter, cashew butter, sesame seed butter)? Raw nut

butters are preferable over roasted and salted but they add great

protein if you are staying away from animal sources. You can add

your own salt to them if you want more salt. Add the nut butters to

apple slices, celery, rye krisp crackers (get the wheat free, sesame

seed ones if you can find them). There are excellent spelt and rice

yeast-free breads that toasted with nut butters are tasty. Raw nuts,

of course, will give your protein that balances out ~ just watch out

for roasted nuts with oils (many are rancid or not the best oils for

our bodies). I know how the protein thing is with food allergies~I

was a vegetarian for 15 years and started eating meat again because I

was so hungry for protein. I now eat lamb, turkey, beef, salmon and

buffalo from sources without antibiotics, etc. I feel better than I

did on the vegetarian diet because all I was eating I was allergic to

(wheat, soy, corn, rice, etc.). I used to make homemade patties

(eggs, oats, spinach, carrots, etc.) but can no longer tolerate the

combinations of things like I used to eat. Hope this helps a bit.

in La Selva Beach, CA

> Goatien

>

> I just started taking this product, hoping it can be something of

a

> replacement for ImmunePro which I used to take until I decided to

get

> serious about my food allergies, and dairy was one of the worst

on my

> ALCAT test.

>

> This gives me some protein in the morning and it isn't horrible.

I

> put it in rice milk. Have tried goat cheese and milk, they make

me

> nauseous. Allergic to eggs and wheat and soy, so what to have for

> protein in the morning has been an issue. Can't get goat yogurt

here,

> have had some and it was okay.

>

> The literature I read on this said it had glutathione precursors

in

> it, so I am hoping it will be somewhat like ImmunePro.

>

> Anyone know anything about it?

>

> Helen

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested

in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

March 10, 2005

Hi Helen:

I took Goatein (from Garden of Life) about a month ago, and it seems

to be a good product if you can't tolerate other protein supplements.

Seems to have the 3 glutathione precursors (cystine, glycine and

glutamic acid).

Check out this website which has some information about goat protein

powders.

http://miracleii-4u.com/goatein.htm

Regards,

o

P.S. I'm not financially involved with this company.

> > Helen: Can you have nut butters (almond butter, peanut butter,

> macadamia nut butter, cashew butter, sesame seed butter)? Raw nut

> butters are preferable over roasted and salted but they add great

> protein if you are staying away from animal sources. You can add

> your own salt to them if you want more salt. Add the nut butters to

> apple slices, celery, rye krisp crackers (get the wheat free, sesame

> seed ones if you can find them). There are excellent spelt and rice

> yeast-free breads that toasted with nut butters are tasty. Raw nuts,

> of course, will give your protein that balances out ~ just watch out

> for roasted nuts with oils (many are rancid or not the best oils for

> our bodies). I know how the protein thing is with food allergies~I

> was a vegetarian for 15 years and started eating meat again because I

> was so hungry for protein. I now eat lamb, turkey, beef, salmon and

> buffalo from sources without antibiotics, etc. I feel better than I

> did on the vegetarian diet because all I was eating I was allergic to

> (wheat, soy, corn, rice, etc.). I used to make homemade patties

> (eggs, oats, spinach, carrots, etc.) but can no longer tolerate the

> combinations of things like I used to eat. Hope this helps a bit.

> in La Selva Beach, CA

> > Goatien

> >

> > I just started taking this product, hoping it can be something of

> a

> > replacement for ImmunePro which I used to take until I decided to

> get

> > serious about my food allergies, and dairy was one of the worst

> on my

> > ALCAT test.

> >

> > This gives me some protein in the morning and it isn't horrible.

> I

> > put it in rice milk. Have tried goat cheese and milk, they make

> me

> > nauseous. Allergic to eggs and wheat and soy, so what to have for

> > protein in the morning has been an issue. Can't get goat yogurt

> here,

> > have had some and it was okay.

> >

> > The literature I read on this said it had glutathione precursors

> in

> > it, so I am hoping it will be somewhat like ImmunePro.

> >

> > Anyone know anything about it?

> >

> > Helen

> >

> > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

> with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested

> in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> >

March 10, 2005

Since I started using digestive enzymes I can benefit from low/moderate amt. of

animal protein in the morning. Chicken is better, but red meat is ok, too. It

really helps to stabilize me.

Adrienne