Guest guest Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Can anybody confirm the efficacy of the subordinated treatment against sinusitis? I suffer from it for years and NOTHING has helped so far! Even the sea-water here in Costa Rica doesnt help the slightest bit! thanks fox Now staying in Costa Rica for up the 6 months... ( according to the " feel great " destinations on this group CFS_CFIDS_ME/ " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " Sinusitus treatment Dr. Vrchota said, " When I found out that everyone from Weil to the Mayo Clinic was recommending nasal irrigation for chronic sinusitis, I said, 'Well, even though I hate water up my nose, maybe I should recommend it, and the patients really love it! It makes their sinusitis go away. " She said that another treatment that has made a huge difference is one that Dr. Teitelbaum developed with Cape Apothecary. It consists of Sporonox 0.2% to kill the fungus, xylitol to keep the staph from clinging to the mucous membranes, Bactroban, Beclamethasone and Nystatin. She said that as a result of using these treatments, she doesn't have any patients with sinusitis anymore--not any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Fox, I can't guarantee it, but I think it sounds like a really reasonable approach and wish more ENTs would opt for something like this before going straight for the drill. penny > > Can anybody confirm the efficacy of the subordinated treatment > against sinusitis? > > I suffer from it for years and NOTHING has helped so far! > > Even the sea-water here in Costa Rica doesnt help the slightest bit! > > thanks > fox > > Now staying in Costa Rica for up the 6 months... > > ( according to the " feel great " destinations on this group > CFS_CFIDS_ME/ > > " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " > > > Sinusitus treatment > > Dr. Vrchota said, " When I found out that everyone from Weil > to the Mayo Clinic was recommending nasal irrigation for chronic > sinusitis, I said, > 'Well, even though I hate water up my nose, maybe > I should recommend it, and the patients really love it! It makes > their sinusitis go away. " She said that another treatment that has > made a huge difference is one that Dr. Teitelbaum developed with > Cape Apothecary. > > It consists of Sporonox 0.2% to kill the fungus, > xylitol to keep the staph from clinging to the mucous membranes, > Bactroban, Beclamethasone and Nystatin. > > She said that as a result > of using these treatments, she doesn't have any patients with > sinusitis anymore--not any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Well, I have been doing a colloidal silver nasal spray now for several months, up to 4 times a day as my Dr. ordered for my chronic sinus problems & he said it would also help my lung congestion & wheezing. But I have really not noticed that much difference except the temporary clearing of my sinuses & the glutithione nasal spray works better for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Hi Fox, Colloidal silver is meant to be very good for sinus infections. The first link here is to a site that tells you how to flood your sinuses with CS. It is easy to do. We find we can feel quite herxy with it ( for us it takes the form of increased mental and physical fatigue and fluey achyness at times ) So beware I would start of with just doing it once a day and see how you get on. Remember that the CS will be absorbed into your bloodstream via the sinuses too so you will possobly be killing off bacteria/viruses in your body too. We already take CS orally but started flooding our sinuses as I had had bad sinus infections in the past and some doctors like Shoemaker are finding staph negative infections in CFS patients so we thought we would do this too in case it is a factor in our illness. Taking CS in these 2 ways is helping us slowly but surely and without the toxic side effects of ABX. We also have borrelia/lyme. The first link is to a site that tells you how to flood your sinuses with CS and the second one is to a list where the use of CS for infections is discussed. You would find a lot of knowledgeable people there on the uses of CS and a good archive. You can make your own CS which is the only really economical way to do it if you were going to do it regularly, over time. http://www.purestcolloids.com/sinusflooding.htm www.silverlist.org Whatever, I hope you find something to relieve your sinus infections, very painful and draining thing to have. Best wishes, Sheila Tuesday, November 23, 2004, 5:03:36 PM, you wrote: HRF> Can anybody confirm the efficacy of the subordinated treatment HRF> against sinusitis? HRF> I suffer from it for years and NOTHING has helped so far! HRF> Even the sea-water here in Costa Rica doesnt help the slightest bit! HRF> thanks HRF> fox HRF> Now staying in Costa Rica for up the 6 months... HRF> ( according to the " feel great " destinations on this group HRF> CFS_CFIDS_ME/ HRF> " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " " HRF> Sinusitus treatment HRF> Dr. Vrchota said, " When I found out that everyone from Weil HRF> to the Mayo Clinic was recommending nasal irrigation for chronic HRF> sinusitis, I said, HRF> 'Well, even though I hate water up my nose, maybe HRF> I should recommend it, and the patients really love it! It makes HRF> their sinusitis go away. " She said that another treatment that has HRF> made a huge difference is one that Dr. Teitelbaum developed with HRF> Cape Apothecary. HRF> It consists of Sporonox 0.2% to kill the fungus, HRF> xylitol to keep the staph from clinging to the mucous membranes, HRF> Bactroban, Beclamethasone and Nystatin. HRF> She said that as a result HRF> of using these treatments, she doesn't have any patients with HRF> sinusitis anymore--not any. HRF> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with HRF> each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any HRF> treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. HRF> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Hi Fox, The Grossan irrigator has been a big success for my sinus infections. These had a coloured discharge (often green and bleeding). Sorry if TMI. One poster to this group reported adding nystatin to a nasal wash and said that it worked for him. With warmest regards, Annette ___________________________________________________________ Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win £10k with to make your dream a reality. Get www..co.uk/10k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 > Well, I have been doing a colloidal silver nasal spray now for several > months, up to 4 times a day as my Dr. ordered for my chronic sinus problems > I found the nasal sprays didn't help, no matter what was in them. I tried rx antibiotics and antifungals, silver, garlic, etc. It was only when I used the irrigation that I started to get some improvement. yesterday my osteopath gave me two herbal tinctures (Yerba Mansa and Anemopsis) to add to the salt water I use, as sinus season is on again. I think the irrigation does two things. First, it washes out mucous and infectious organisms, allowing better drainage and aeration. Second, it does a more thourough job of applying whatever substance you are using to treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 I am using American Biotech Labs Silver Biotics from Beyond-a- Century.com. It says it has been tested by Major Universities & independant labs for effectiveness & supposed to be 200% or 300% more effective than other products tested & the price is very reasonable. I have a viajet spray machine for cleaning the mouth with different attachments to shoot water for dental cleaning. Can I use that with the colloidal Silver & some xylitol & maybe some nyastatin powder for chronic sinusitus do you think? I find it difficult to use for even my mouth & I rarely use it anymore & it is always very painful when I get water up my nose. But I am worried more about my lung congestion which my Dr. seems to think is connected to my sinus congestion. If it would help that, I would try it. How often a day do you use the sinus irrigation treatment? Thanks for any suggestions, C.J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 The following e-mail was received from a member of our local support group after I had shared an e-mail posted on Experimental about an effective treatment for sinusitis. The reply below set me wondering if others may also have gut involvement as part of the cause of their sinus problems. I remember hearing a scientist interviewed a couple of years ago saying that some detrimental organisms (E. coli in particular, if I'm remembering correctly) has become a problem because cattle are fattened with grains right before slaughtering; and that this practice was causing a build up of these bad organisms in the cattle and being passed on in the meat. He further said that if they were allowed several weeks after being fed the grains to be on hay, much of this condition would clear up. Many of us, I believe, develop conditions because of sensitivity to grains which leads to further worsening of our problems. bg J.C. wrote: Thank you so much for all the valuable information you send via email. I will confirm the nasal irrigation as a cure for c[h]ronic sinusitus. I suffered for twenty years and had two surgeries before I learned about it. Dr. in Tyler gave me the info. I use a pre mixed product from NeilMed, 1 877 477 8633. Also, as you know, I have suffered many illnesses over the years and am almost sure now that an allergy to wheat has been the problem. A disease known as Celiac. I will let you know if all my pboblems are resolved with the no wheat, oat or barley diet. With love and gratitude to you, JC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 * it is always very painful when I get water up my nose. On the WaterPik, you use the lowest setting. Also, the Xylitol does seem to be a worthy addition to the Nystatin. And try tilting your head way back. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Dr. Jaceb Tietelbaum recommends the following three treatments for *Chronic & Acute Sinusitis:* * *Sinusitis Nose Spray (Rx)* - By prescription from Cape Drug (800-248-5978). Contains Sporanox, Xylitol, Bactroban, Beclamethasone and Nystatin. Use 1-2 sprays in each nostril twice a day for 6-12 weeks. If it irritates the nose, use nasal saline spray just before using the prescription. Use with silver spray below. * *Nasal silver spray*-5-10 sprays in each nostril three times a day for 7-14 days until the sinusitis resolves (from www.EndFatigue.com. Wholesale from www.natural -immunogenics.com or 888-328-8840) 145. *Nasal Irrigation (Rx)* - Get 1 liter of normal saline with 100mg Amphotericin B and a second liter with 80mg gentamycin. Use 1 ounce of each in each nostril as a nasal rinse twice a day as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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