Igenex western blot results

[Guest guest]

Hi there...looks like you have lyme, maybe other tickborne infections

too. I don't see the point of repeat testing (expensive!)...you can

chart clinical improvement from that point. What part of the country

do you live in? Bartonella and babesia are common coinfections and

sometimes elusive in testing.

[Guest guest]

I noted this from a Lyme book in my LLMD's office- forgot the title.

* indicates I had an equivocal result.

** is indicates I had +

*** is indicates I had ++

I seem to have week positive (+) for the important bands. So thats

why I was not sure about it. Do you know of any specific band taht I

should look for in my results.

I got sick when I was in India (Southern part of India) and they

still think Lyme is not prevalent there. Docs there are not familiar

with Lyme disease.

9 Kd- cross reactive for Borrelia

12 - specific for Bb

18- unknown **

20- unknown

21- unknown

22- specific for Bb, probably really 23/25 band

23/25 - Outer Specific Protain(OSP) C specific for Bb

28- unknown *

30 - unknown probbaly an outer surface protein

common in Europe and one Ca strain **

31 - OSPA speciifc for Bb *

34- OSPB specific for Bb*

35-specific for Bb

37- specific for Bb

38- cross reactive for Bb

39- major protain of Bb flagellan specific for Bb **

41 flagellin in protein of all spirochetes- this is usually first

to appear after Bb infection and specific for all Bb

45- cross reactive for all Borelia **

50 - cross reactive for all Borrelia

55- cross reactive for all Borelia

57- cross reactive for all Borelia

58- unknown may be a heat shock protein **

60- cross reactive for all Borrelia

66- cross reactive for all Borrelia *

commin in all Bacteria

83- specific antigen for the Lyme bacterium probably cystoplasmic

membrane

93- unknown, probably the same protein as 83 just measured

incorrectly. *

Thanks,

Gayathri

> Hi there...looks like you have lyme, maybe other tickborne

infections

> too. I don't see the point of repeat testing (expensive!)...you

can

> chart clinical improvement from that point. What part of the

country

> do you live in? Bartonella and babesia are common coinfections and

> sometimes elusive in testing.

[Guest guest]

Exactly, agreed 100%

> You got multiple positives on every test plus tick bite with rash?

No

> offense, but sounds like you're in denial of having lyme if there

ever was denial!

> Just b/c abx doesn't affect it doesn't mean you don't have it. If

healthy

> controls don't show up pos on IGeneX WB's but those with lyme do I

think it

> should be pretty reliable when you get a pos, especially if you

have band 39 pos.

>

>

> In a message dated 6/4/2004 12:12:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

> I don't think its conlusive at all that you have lyme, even if you

had a

> positive cdc band, pcr, 24hr urine, bowen, etc.. I have tested

postive for

> western blots at Stanford, Suny Brook and Igenix. I had a clear

tick bite with

> immediate three day emigrans rash that followed at age 11 in the

foothills of my

> childhood home in California which foothills now have plenty of

county signs

> posted warning people of deer ticks with lyme in the area.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> You got multiple positives on every test plus tick bite with rash? No

> offense, but sounds like you're in denial of having lyme if there ever was

denial!

> Just b/c abx doesn't affect it doesn't mean you don't have it. If healthy

> controls don't show up pos on IGeneX WB's but those with lyme do I think it

> should be pretty reliable when you get a pos, especially if you have band 39

pos.

>

>

> In a message dated 6/4/2004 12:12:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

> I don't think its conlusive at all that you have lyme, even if you had a

> positive cdc band, pcr, 24hr urine, bowen, etc.. I have tested postive for

> western blots at Stanford, Suny Brook and Igenix. I had a clear tick bite

with

> immediate three day emigrans rash that followed at age 11 in the foothills of

my

> childhood home in California which foothills now have plenty of county signs

> posted warning people of deer ticks with lyme in the area.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The tests of commercial labs are greatly flawed for more things than just

lyme and Labcorp for instance has the highest rate of false negatives for lyme

testing, yet even you reported having positives on commercial labs, did you not?

Lyme is exactly that: a clinical diagnosis. But in your case I wonder what

you're waiting for, a direct memo from God to show you your cause of CFS?

Remember, " da Nile " is not just a river in Egypt.

I was just speaking with my first guru doc who was my first doc back in 2000

who thought my CFS was adrenal related. He said he routinely tests multiple

labs like twice a year and the results are " very disturbing " . I used to be a

fan of docs using labs that took insurance, but now I'm not so convinced it is

always the best route, and why I didn't mind paying for my IGeneX tests.

In a message dated 6/5/2004 11:32:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

I basically said the tests(even pos on band 39 at Igenix WB) and the clinical

diagnosis of chronic lyme are greatly flawed-- lacking reliability and

duplication.