Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Hi, Is having toxic smelling armpits a common thing with PWCs? Sorry if this is an embarassing topic. I have this problem for a long time. I know bacteria in the armpits cause this problem. But does toxins from lymph nodes also cause this problem? or other toxins. Any easy solution? I dont have the energy to have more than one shower per day. Thanks, Gayathri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 I have this problem from time to time as well, more so when I'm feeling very tired. I never use anti-perspirant! My solution, I make a pot of talc and dust myself. Here is my recipe: 3 ounces Arrowroot 1 ounce Baking Powder 2 ounces Cornstarch Plus I add a couple of drops of essential rose oil for a calming effect. Nat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 I think it means dysbiosis (disrupted gut flora). Try fiber, prebiotics and probiotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 hi gayu , u are having such a hard time with this illness , sorry. when i was super toxic , still a poor detoxifyer , i had such a vile smeeling sweat at times from my body but only from under my armpits...i also would notice my stool would smeel very bad ordor at times , not typical odor for me. That is less of a promblem now the sweat odor but my stool occasional smeels horrible . a simple guess is your toxic ... i used to keep themros bottles by my bedside when i was totally bedbound and maybe a box of tissue so i could wet them and wipe what i needed to...a short term solution. i seem to be helped by whey protein but i am sure u tried that allready. feel better tealk > [Original Message] > From: gayu_pwc7 <gayu_pwc7@...> > < > > Date: 6/13/2004 7:52:22 PM > Subject: toxic smelling armpits > > Hi, > > Is having toxic smelling armpits a common thing with PWCs? Sorry if > this is an embarassing topic. > > I have this problem for a long time. I know bacteria in the armpits > cause this problem. But does toxins from lymph nodes also cause this > problem? or other toxins. > > Any easy solution? I dont have the energy to have more than one > shower per day. > > Thanks, > Gayathri. > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Hi, I had this problem when I was detoxifying with Chlorella.If you are detoxifying yourself this could be the cause. Nil toxic smelling armpits > > Hi, > > Is having toxic smelling armpits a common thing with PWCs? Sorry if > this is an embarassing topic. > > I have this problem for a long time. I know bacteria in the armpits > cause this problem. But does toxins from lymph nodes also cause this > problem? or other toxins. > > Any easy solution? I dont have the energy to have more than one > shower per day. > > Thanks, > Gayathri. > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Hi Gayathri... Some time back we were discussing hypersensitivity to smell (olfactory sensitivity) - even smelling 'bad smells' that no one else could.... My armpits (and groin) seem to 'stink' even though I shower daily. Before I go out anywhere I ask my wife if I smell good and she tells me I do... I trust her... At the same time I can't stand the smell in my bathroom. It smells of stale urine. I'm certain neither of us piddle on the carpet My wife says I'm imagining it. There's no smell!! Now I'm conscious of my flippin' armpits again! LOL!! Blessings, Kezzi. . . gayu_pwc7 wrote: > Hi, > > Is having toxic smelling armpits a common thing with PWCs? Sorry if > this is an embarassing topic. > > I have this problem for a long time. I know bacteria in the armpits > cause this problem. But does toxins from lymph nodes also cause this > problem? or other toxins. > > Any easy solution? I dont have the energy to have more than one > shower per day. > > Thanks, > Gayathri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 I've been using colloidal silver on my armpits for the last month, and it seems to be working very well to stop the smell. Better than any of the deodorants that I've used. (I make my own, so it's super cheap, and I can use as much as I want without having to worry about cost) At first I was just putting some on a cotton ball and swiping it on my armpits. But then I got a misting spray bottle, and I've been misting myself all over after a shower. I've also been pouring about a half cup over my scalp after I wash my hair. It's eliminated the tinea versicolor on my chest and back completely, and the dandruff on my scalp. lindaj@... toxic smelling armpits > Hi, > > Is having toxic smelling armpits a common thing with PWCs? Sorry if > this is an embarassing topic. > > I have this problem for a long time. I know bacteria in the armpits > cause this problem. But does toxins from lymph nodes also cause this > problem? or other toxins. > > Any easy solution? I dont have the energy to have more than one > shower per day. > > Thanks, > Gayathri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 have you tried a c.silver retension enama? i have good luck with them, i do a flush first. i put in about 1 1/3 cups in enama bag, use a 14 inch cathiter to get it up in the colon. i also use 1 drop of 3% hp in 2 oz c.silver to make particle size smaller, a was told the retension enamas are about 85% effective as an iv. roger wrote: > > I've been using colloidal silver on my armpits for the last month, and it > seems to be working very well to stop the smell. Better than any of the > deodorants that I've used. (I make my own, so it's super cheap, and I can > use as much as I want without having to worry about cost) At first I was > just putting some on a cotton ball and swiping it on my armpits. But then I > got a misting spray bottle, and I've been misting myself all over after a > shower. I've also been pouring about a half cup over my scalp after I wash > my hair. It's eliminated the tinea versicolor on my chest and back > completely, and the dandruff on my scalp. > > > lindaj@... > > toxic smelling armpits > > > Hi, > > > > Is having toxic smelling armpits a common thing with PWCs? Sorry if > > this is an embarassing topic. > > > > I have this problem for a long time. I know bacteria in the armpits > > cause this problem. But does toxins from lymph nodes also cause this > > problem? or other toxins. > > > > Any easy solution? I dont have the energy to have more than one > > shower per day. > > > > Thanks, > > Gayathri. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 , If you have dandruff, I'd guess you have a yeast overgrowth. You can have this without having the usual tell-tale women's kind of symptoms. A strict yeast-control diet for all of us, plus using some of Dr. Wm Crook's recommended supplements (specific recommendations given in " Chronic Fatigue and the Yeast Connection " and in his many other books) would do much to detoxify. A good brand of chlorophyl (like Nature's Sunshine liquid one) put the recommended amount into a gallon of water each day, and drinking that instead of plain water, does much for cleansing the blood and improving the pH of the body. It has a light minty taste. Drinking lots of this or pure water is very helpful for keeping the toxins flushed out. bg > I've been using colloidal silver on my armpits for the last month, and it > seems to be working very well to stop the smell. Better than any of the > deodorants that I've used. (I make my own, so it's super cheap, and I can > use as much as I want without having to worry about cost) At first I was > just putting some on a cotton ball and swiping it on my armpits. But then I > got a misting spray bottle, and I've been misting myself all over after a > shower. I've also been pouring about a half cup over my scalp after I wash > my hair. It's eliminated the tinea versicolor on my chest and back > completely, and the dandruff on my scalp. > > > lindaj@h... > > toxic smelling armpits > > > > Hi, > > > > Is having toxic smelling armpits a common thing with PWCs? Sorry if > > this is an embarassing topic. > > > > I have this problem for a long time. I know bacteria in the armpits > > cause this problem. But does toxins from lymph nodes also cause this > > problem? or other toxins. > > > > Any easy solution? I dont have the energy to have more than one > > shower per day. > > > > Thanks, > > Gayathri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 I've been on a strict anti-candida diet for decades, and have taken anti-candida supplements for years, I have Dr. Crook's book, and followed it religiously, until I developed allergies to most of the supplements that he recommends. But I've sort of come to consider him to be somewhat of a quack. Sorry to offend you, but there are a lot of " theories " floating around out there for what causes all kinds of problems, and he has been so adamant about candida being the underlying cause of CFS, which it isn't. Maybe for some, but certainly not the majority. I can't use chlorophyll supplements because they are generally from alfalfa, which I'm also allergic to. (I'm allergic to all legumes) I do use Chlorella, which is a good source of chlorophyll, but not something I'd want to add to all my drinking water, because it isn't the greatest tasting stuff, and would probably end up causing me to drink less liquid because of the taste. I limit it to taking tablets at specific times. I have had candida testing done, and not tested as having high levels, using Great Smokies testing, which is supposed to be pretty accurate. I've also been tested with kinesiology by four different practitioners and vibrational energy testing and wasn't found to have a problem with candida. I've had BioSET treatments for it, just in case, and the colloidal silver that I take should deal with it if it is still a problem after all of this. I also drink a gallon of water a day, and do a lot of things to detoxify, and have been for years. I've been under the care of a naturopath for the last 5 years, who is very good at dealing with candida issues, and that was the first thing that she suspected, but she is now convinced that candida is not my problem. Over the years I've had the candida issue thrown in my face over and over, in spite of the fact that I've religiously worked on dealing with candida. After spending years trying to resolve " candida " issues, and studying how to deal with candida, I'm convinced that it isn't the cause of my problems, or of most of the people who think they have a problem with it. A more likely cause for my problems is the Lyme and tick-borne pathogens that I've been diagnosed with. As far as candida is concerned, it is a symptom of MSH deficiency. When MSH levels drop, candida springs up. Have sufficient MSH, you don't have candida issues. As simple as that. MSH directly kills candida, and is the primary means outside of the immune system for controlling candida growth. Correct the MSH deficiency, and the candida disappears. Without anti-candida diets. Without avoiding sugars. Without supplements or drugs to kill the candida. I haven't figured out why this is so ignored by all those candida guru's out there, except that the research on MSH is fairly new, and supplemental MSH is not yet available to the general public. But the point is that candida is no more than a somewhat weak opportunistic pathogen, and while anticandida diets and all the rest of that anti-candida stuff may help suppress candida, you have to remain on them indefinitely, or suffer a resurgence of candida. Because of the connection between inflammation and MSH, it makes sense that the Marshall Protocol, which addresses a key underlying inflammatory process would work wonders for resolving candida issues. lindaj@... Re: toxic smelling armpits > > > , > > If you have dandruff, I'd guess you have a yeast overgrowth. You > can have this without having the usual tell-tale women's kind of > symptoms. A strict yeast-control diet for all of us, plus using > some of Dr. Wm Crook's recommended supplements (specific > recommendations given in " Chronic Fatigue and the Yeast Connection " > and in his many other books) would do much to > detoxify. > > A good brand of chlorophyl (like Nature's Sunshine liquid one) put > the recommended amount into a gallon of water each day, and drinking > that instead of plain water, does much for cleansing the blood and > improving the pH of the body. It has a light minty taste. Drinking > lots of this or pure water > is very helpful for keeping the toxins flushed out. > > bg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 : What's MSH? Re: toxic smelling armpits > > > > > > > > , > > > > If you have dandruff, I'd guess you have a yeast overgrowth. You > > can have this without having the usual tell-tale women's kind of > > symptoms. A strict yeast-control diet for all of us, plus using > > some of Dr. Wm Crook's recommended supplements (specific > > recommendations given in " Chronic Fatigue and the Yeast Connection " > > and in his many other books) would do much to > > detoxify. > > > > A good brand of chlorophyl (like Nature's Sunshine liquid one) put > > the recommended amount into a gallon of water each day, and drinking > > that instead of plain water, does much for cleansing the blood and > > improving the pH of the body. It has a light minty taste. Drinking > > lots of this or pure water > > is very helpful for keeping the toxins flushed out. > > > > bg > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 , Your information on MSH is interesting. You make a convincing case against candida being involved in your problems. But I must assure you, it is definitely involved in many, my own included. I do strongly disagree with your comments about Dr. Crook being a quack. He was a devoted pediatric allergist, who for over 50 years researched and treated those with yeast-related problems. Scientific research showed that many people are much more susceptible to this problem because of genetics (as is the case in many maladies). He had certain young patients that no matter what he did to try to get them well, they did not -- until he started researching the candida overgrowth problem and making changes in diet, etc. He devoted his life to solving these problems, and did so well at it that he eventually was treating men, women and children until his death last year. bg > I've been on a strict anti-candida diet for decades, and have taken > anti-candida supplements for years, I have Dr. Crook's book, and followed it > religiously, until I developed allergies to most of the supplements that he > recommends. But I've sort of come to consider him to be somewhat of a quack. > Sorry to offend you, but there are a lot of " theories " floating around out > there for what causes all kinds of problems, and he has been so adamant > about candida being the underlying cause of CFS, which it isn't. Maybe for > some, but certainly not the majority. > > I can't use chlorophyll supplements because they are generally from alfalfa, > which I'm also allergic to. (I'm allergic to all legumes) I do use > Chlorella, which is a good source of chlorophyll, but not something I'd want > to add to all my drinking water, because it isn't the greatest tasting > stuff, and would probably end up causing me to drink less liquid because of > the taste. I limit it to taking tablets at specific times. > > I have had candida testing done, and not tested as having high levels, using > Great Smokies testing, which is supposed to be pretty accurate. I've also > been tested with kinesiology by four different practitioners and vibrational > energy testing and wasn't found to have a problem with candida. I've had > BioSET treatments for it, just in case, and the colloidal silver that I take > should deal with it if it is still a problem after all of this. I also drink > a gallon of water a day, and do a lot of things to detoxify, and have been > for years. I've been under the care of a naturopath for the last 5 years, > who is very good at dealing with candida issues, and that was the first > thing that she suspected, but she is now convinced that candida is not my > problem. > > Over the years I've had the candida issue thrown in my face over and over, > in spite of the fact that I've religiously worked on dealing with candida. > After spending years trying to resolve " candida " issues, and studying how to > deal with candida, I'm convinced that it isn't the cause of my problems, or > of most of the people who think they have a problem with it. A more likely > cause for my problems is the Lyme and tick-borne pathogens that I've been > diagnosed with. > > As far as candida is concerned, it is a symptom of MSH deficiency. When MSH > levels drop, candida springs up. Have sufficient MSH, you don't have candida > issues. As simple as that. MSH directly kills candida, and is the primary > means outside of the immune system for controlling candida growth. Correct > the MSH deficiency, and the candida disappears. Without anti- candida diets. > Without avoiding sugars. Without supplements or drugs to kill the candida. I > haven't figured out why this is so ignored by all those candida guru's out > there, except that the research on MSH is fairly new, and supplemental MSH > is not yet available to the general public. But the point is that candida is > no more than a somewhat weak opportunistic pathogen, and while anticandida > diets and all the rest of that anti-candida stuff may help suppress candida, > you have to remain on them indefinitely, or suffer a resurgence of candida. > > Because of the connection between inflammation and MSH, it makes sense that > the Marshall Protocol, which addresses a key underlying inflammatory process > would work wonders for resolving candida issues. > > > lindaj@h... > > Re: toxic smelling armpits > > > > > > > > , > > > > If you have dandruff, I'd guess you have a yeast overgrowth. You > > can have this without having the usual tell-tale women's kind of > > symptoms. A strict yeast-control diet for all of us, plus using > > some of Dr. Wm Crook's recommended supplements (specific > > recommendations given in " Chronic Fatigue and the Yeast Connection " > > and in his many other books) would do much to > > detoxify. > > > > A good brand of chlorophyl (like Nature's Sunshine liquid one) put > > the recommended amount into a gallon of water each day, and drinking > > that instead of plain water, does much for cleansing the blood and > > improving the pH of the body. It has a light minty taste. Drinking > > lots of this or pure water > > is very helpful for keeping the toxins flushed out. > > > > bg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 My assessment that he was a quack was based on the years that I've been on candida email lists, and heard stories of hundreds if not thousands of people who religiously followed his protocol and did not get better. And all the hundreds/thousands of people who have been told their problems are candida, and they turn out to be something else. Equating everything under the sun with candida overgrowth to the extent that he did is snake oil. It ends up causing a lot of people to remain sick because they are so indoctrinated into the candida idea that they can't believe that there is anything else wrong with them. I fell into that category for nearly two decades, religiously following an anticandida diet, taking anticandida supplements, and getting sicker and sicker. It actually helped at first, which was why I stuck to it. Yet I still get people telling me " You have a candida problem because you have (fill in the symptom) " And every time I turn around, they are equating this symptom or that symptom with candida. Never mind the fact that I've had testing via Great Smokies labs that didn't find a candida problem. Never mind the fact that I've been under the care of a very proficient naturopath for the last 5 years who is very candida savvy, and she totally agrees that my problems are not candida related. Never mind the fact that I've been tested by 4 different BioSET practitioners with kinesiology, and not found to have a problem with it. I've found the underlying cause of my problems,and they aren't candida. They're something worse, and a lot harder to treat. But I still have people who don't have any kind of expertise tell me repeatedly that my problems are candida, and they are totally ignorant of the things I have found to be my underlying problem. Everyone I know whose been told they had a candida problem, who investigated it further, ultimately found out that they in fact had something else going on. I can understand why most doctors reject the concept of candida, because it isn't the cause of problems. While Dr. Crook could be admired for his dedication to helping people, there are many doctors who fail to get to the underlying cause who are just as dedicated to helping people. I just think that the better course of action is to treat the underlying cause, than to be dedicated to helping people remain sick, or only getting them partially better, or keeping them enslaved to a restricted lifestyle, or promoting a treatment as the cure-all for what candida is promoted for. Take for example all the people with CFS. Dr. Crook assumed that CFS IS candida. But he was wrong, as many people with CFS can attest, and the vast amounts of research can attest. And over the years as I've studied into the candida issue, it has become increasingly clear that candida is NEVER the culprit. It is only an opportunistic infection that establishes itself because there are other underlying problems. Clear up the underlying problems, and the candida disappears on its own, WITHOUT having to resort to taking anti-candida supplements, or avoiding sugar, or taking large amounts of probiotics for years on end. And treating candida will never bring about complete health for a lot of people, unless somewhere along the way they accidentally address the underlying cause, and erroneously equate the success with their anticandida efforts. Healthy people don't have problems with candida. They live in environments were candida is all around them, and are exposed to it constantly, and eat foods that candida can feed on, without developing candida overgrowths. There are also many people who use antibiotics without developing candida problems. There are a great many flaws in Dr. Crooks hypothesis. And what it boils down to is that treating candida is merely treating things symptomatically, and it ends up with the same flaws that Western Medicine has. It doesn't get to the heart of the problem. It's like chiropractic, and Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type Diet, and Hulda 's The Cure for All Diseases, and Hallelujah diets, and a host of other things that fall short of the mark. They have some good points, and help a great many people, but fail to get to the bottom of things for a great many more. They are promoted fanatically as the cure-all for things which they are not a cure at all. There are people who have a great deal of success with them, and people who have total failure with them. But anyone who remains sick who follows them is told that they are somehow not doing things right because they remain sick. And the supporters of these things can't believe that it is necessary to do anything else. Anyone who disagrees with them is treated like they are stupid for having a difference of opinion, no matter how much knowledge they may have gained on the subject. It falls in line with my assessment that Simon Wessley is a quack. There are actually many people who are quite enamored with him, and who have had their lives turned around by him. He would not otherwise have the power that he does. Yet he remains in the ire of a great many people because of the incredible harm that he's done to some people. I'm sure that there are people who are as dedicated to him as there are to Dr. Crook. Two diametrically opposed views of the same person. If you happen to agree with me, then you see no problems with my assessment. If you disagree with me, then you become blind to my assessment no matter what supporting evidence I may show. Like football fans rooting for their preferred team, regardless of the score. If you are someone who has been helped by Dr. Crook, then I'm sure that you'll disagree with my opinion of him. But if you, like me, followed religiously Dr. Crook for two decades, and ultimately ended up bedbound, severely disabled, in constant and severe pain, loosing my dreams, my quality of life, and nearly loosing my family in the process, you wouldn't think so highly of him. lindaj@... Re: toxic smelling armpits > , > > Your information on MSH is interesting. > > You make a convincing case against candida being involved in your > problems. But I must assure you, it is definitely involved in many, > my own included. > > I do strongly disagree with your comments about Dr. Crook > being a quack. He was a devoted pediatric allergist, who for over > 50 years researched and treated those with yeast-related problems. > Scientific research showed that many people are much more > susceptible to this problem because of genetics (as is the case in > many maladies). He had certain young patients that no matter what > he did to try to get them well, they did not -- until he started > researching the candida overgrowth problem and making changes in > diet, etc. He devoted his life to solving these problems, and did > so well at it that he eventually was treating men, women and > children until his death last year. > > bg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Actually, , I disagree with you here. I don't think he was a quack, he had a good insight, but perhaps it was taken to an extreme. People have candida problems, and they can be quite serious (as mine has been for years) for the following reasons: 1) Huge overuse of antibiotics, in ever increasing doses. 2) The way grains are produced and stored--leading to mold problems, so that those of us with an allergic predisposition, are exposed through what we eat to mold antigens 3) In both big cities and nice expensive houses and all around, modern building techniques leading to mold problems indoors. Water damage in big old buildings, like the prewars in NYC, is not properly fixed and causes problems over the years...etc A recent study in mice giving them a brief course of antibiotics and then inoculating with a candida species, found that they all developed allergic sensitivity to molds in their environment as a result. So the basic insight is profound and good. Assuming all problems are candida is as bad as assuming all problems are excess Vitamin D. We are all individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 > Hi, > > Is having toxic smelling armpits a common thing with PWCs? ********snip************ Short answer: Yes, I think it is. It usually depends on what drugs or supplements I'm taking. I've even noticed it with different brands of the same antibiotic. It comes and goes, and I, too have asked my daughter or a close friend, when I smelled it, and they said they didn't detect an odor. Carolyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Just started trying NDF my my armpits started to smell.. Nil Re: toxic smelling armpits > Hi, > > Is having toxic smelling armpits a common thing with PWCs? ********snip************ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 I had it like crazy when I was taking detoxing from mercury. But it wasn't just me who smelled it! My husband was constantly telling me to change my clothes because I reeked. For all I know I still have it, but I gave up on " natural " deodorants and now use high powered ones. Doris ----- Original Message ----- > Is having toxic smelling armpits a common thing with PWCs? ********snip************ It comes and goes, and I, too have asked my daughter or a close friend, when I smelled it, and they said they didn't detect an odor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 > I had it like crazy when I was taking detoxing from mercury. But it wasn't just me who smelled it! My husband was constantly telling me to change my clothes because I reeked. For all I know I still have it, but I gave up on " natural " deodorants and now use high powered ones. > > Doris > I definitely had it bad for the first few weeks on Benicar. My sister would complain to me that I 'stank'. She was the only one, however, (maybe my friends were too polite?). I didnt notice the body odor myself. Ive switched deodorants since, and there has been any more complaints . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Doris Brown wrote: > I had it like crazy when I was taking detoxing from mercury. But it > wasn't just me who smelled it! My husband was constantly telling me > to change my clothes because I reeked. For all I know I still have > it, but I gave up on " natural " deodorants and now use high powered > ones. > > Doris Hi Doris et al, after your morning wash apply a nice baby talc. Shower or wash as often as is convenient. I find a quick swill under the arms becomes second nature upon going to the lav! Helps me as those 'sports' deoderants can interfere with any hypersensitivities - headache being the worst reaction for me with strong perfume. Best wishes, Kezzi. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Trust me, I tried every type of natural deodorant invented. I would have had to take 10 showers a day. Who has the energy for that? I have pajamas my husband smells it on even though they have been washed a few times. I don't think this toxic, I would call sulfuric, smell is normal, but then I never had BO before so I can't say for sure. Fortunately I don't feel any sicker using the real stuff. Doris ----- Original Message ----- Hi Doris et al, after your morning wash apply a nice baby talc. Shower or wash as often as is convenient. I find a quick swill under the arms becomes second nature upon going to the lav! Helps me as those 'sports' deoderants can interfere with any hypersensitivities - headache being the worst reaction for me with strong perfume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 try Miracle ll soap and Neutralizer Gel, there is also masters miracle, but mlm and cost almost 3 times as much. call them to ordrer or a dealer near you,1-800-277-5444 it is the only soap i can use, great for itchy skin, or mcs. roger Doris Brown wrote: > > Trust me, I tried every type of natural deodorant invented. I would > have had to take 10 showers a day. Who has the energy for that? I > have pajamas my husband smells it on even though they have been washed > a few times. I don't think this toxic, I would call sulfuric, smell > is normal, but then I never had BO before so I can't say for sure. > Fortunately I don't feel any sicker using the real stuff. > Doris > ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Doris et al, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Doris, A number of years ago I went through a period like this. No matter how clean I was, it happened. Later I realized that my body was overloaded with toxins. The bacteria come out of our body through the pores of the skin, and naturally begin to smell. Until you get on a squeaky clean anti-yeast diet (if you aren't already), make sure you take measures to get your pH in a normal range (not too acidic or too alkaline). Also, Nature's Sunshine has these strips to measure pH, and it has a really good-tasting liquid chlorophyl that you can add some of it to a gallon of drinking, and drink it throughout the day. Also, the whole lemon/olive oil drink will help detox your liver, etc. And, if you have access to a sauna, frequent saunas will aid in sweating out the toxins. This ideally should be done at least three times a week, being sure to replace the electrolytes after each sauna. If this isn't available, take hot baths with 1 or 2 cups of Epsom Salts (magnesium) added to the water, along with one bottle of hydrogen peroxide. As you do this on subsequent days, you can increase the hydrogen peroxide; stay submerged in the hot water for at least 20-30 minutes. This is recommended by some pain management specialists (Dr. Stuart Weg is one who has actually posted this on www.rheumatic.org web site. It is excellent for detoxing the body. Good luck. Let us know " when " (not " if " ) you become sweet smelling. If you persevere, it WILL happen. Remember, diet is probably the most important part of this. I remember those times well (even years later), and we really are the last ones to know. bg > Trust me, I tried every type of natural deodorant invented. I would have had to take 10 showers a day. Who has the energy for that? I have pajamas my husband smells it on even though they have been washed a few times. I don't think this toxic, I would call sulfuric, smell is normal, but then I never had BO before so I can't say for sure. Fortunately I don't feel any sicker using the real stuff. > Doris > ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Doris et al, > after your morning wash apply a nice baby talc. Shower or wash as often as > is convenient. I find a quick swill under the arms becomes second nature > upon going to the lav! Helps me as those 'sports' deoderants can interfere > with any hypersensitivities - headache being the worst reaction for me with > strong perfume > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 Hi folks, just to clarify, I was not the one who wrote with the problem. I just shared my experience. Sometimes it is easy to look track on the list. I really had the problem when I was detoxing from mercury and don't anymore. Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 I was the one who wrote abt this problem initially. Thanks for all your suggestions. Gayathri. > Hi folks, just to clarify, I was not the one who wrote with the problem. I just shared my experience. Sometimes it is easy to look track on the list. I really had the problem when I was detoxing from mercury and don't anymore. > > Doris > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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