Re: conventional sauna wins!

[Guest guest]

SOmetimes " innovations " are not better, sometimes tried-and-true

works best. Dry saunas have been used forever--think of the Finns,

or Indian sweat lodges. These narrow spectrum FIR saunas--who

knows...some swear by them, but in any case, if your body says " NO! "

you gotta listen...

> Interesting. So long term FIR sauna use ended up to not be all of

what it

> was cracked up to be. I tried to warn one lady I knew who spent

$3500 on FIR

> sauna only to not use it in end. At least Jim's or sauna is

cheap. I am

> about only one here who continues to do sauna then and I use the

health

> club's dry sauna and have done it for over 2 years now, ever since

beginning my

> major rehabilitation program where I slowly began to work out.

With FIR raising

> Vit D as they have discussed on other list, it is no surprise that

FIR would

> be bad if so many of us have genetic defect for this D measurements

that can

> now be tested. Since I did just as well when using saunas w/o

those IR bulbs I

> think I will now discontinue laying under the IR bulb light in the

one I use

> now.

>

>

> In a message dated 6/1/2004 12:43:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

> I didn't like infrared sauna either--my fibro, which is mild to

> moderate I guess, got very bad. I had muscle pain all over. I was

> using a bulb sauna and stopped. (I was also getting headaches). It

> may be toxins, who knows, but a regular sauna did not have this

> effect on me. We are all individual.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, I'm concerned about some of the conclusions you seem to be

drawing in your post. I question whether a free-standing sauna (far

infrared or conventional) can really be compared with bulbs or heaters

that people put in a part of their house. That may be the best that

can be done under given circumstances, I'm just not convinced that the

results will be comparable.

Since the purpose of the sauna seems to be detox, if you're doing it in

an environment that's not safe, you very well could be taking in more

toxins than you are getting rid of, without even realizing it. So many

building materials do outgas, and heating them makes them outgas more.

My other concern is that infra red and far infrared seem to be used

interchangeably. I didn't go back and compare the post that gave the

vitamin d via infrared frequency, but I suspect it's different than

vitamin d via FAR infrared frequency. Just a suspicion.

Btw, I do use a far infrared sauna, per Sherry recommendations

in books, and have had good luck with it. I'm not cured. I've used

the sauna for about 3 1/2 years, about 3x/week. Sometimes 1 or

2x/week. It helps (or I wouldn't do it...). My fibro is much better,

and I just generally feel better when I do it.

Thanks, Laurie

On Tuesday, June 1, 2004, at 08:59 AM, jseaton357@... wrote:

> Interesting. So long term FIR sauna use ended up to not be all of

> what it

> was cracked up to be. I tried to warn one lady I knew who spent $3500

> on FIR

> sauna only to not use it in end. At least Jim's or sauna is

> cheap. I am

> about only one here who continues to do sauna then and I use the health

> club's dry sauna and have done it for over 2 years now, ever since

> beginning my

> major rehabilitation program where I slowly began to work out. With

> FIR raising

> Vit D as they have discussed on other list, it is no surprise that FIR

> would

> be bad if so many of us have genetic defect for this D measurements

> that can

> now be tested. Since I did just as well when using saunas w/o those

> IR bulbs I

> think I will now discontinue laying under the IR bulb light in the one

> I use

> now.

>

>

> In a message dated 6/1/2004 12:43:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

> I didn't like infrared sauna either--my fibro, which is mild to

> moderate I guess, got very bad. I had muscle pain all over. I was

> using a bulb sauna and stopped. (I was also getting headaches). It

> may be toxins, who knows, but a regular sauna did not have this

> effect on me. We are all individual.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

My experience with FIR is like yours -- very favorable (over 2

years). It has made a great difference, especially with chronic

spinal pain which just vanished after the first month. If I get a

really bad headache that doesn't want to go away, I head for the

sauna and it helps that.

I do think it adviseable, if one is going to use a FIR, to get Dr.

Sherry book(or similar book) on " Painfree in Six Weeks " and

become knowledgable on proper use of it.

bg

>

> > Interesting. So long term FIR sauna use ended up to not be all

of

> > what it

> > was cracked up to be. I tried to warn one lady I knew who spent

$3500

> > on FIR

> > sauna only to not use it in end. At least Jim's or sauna

is

> > cheap. I am

> > about only one here who continues to do sauna then and I use the

health

> > club's dry sauna and have done it for over 2 years now, ever

since

> > beginning my

> > major rehabilitation program where I slowly began to work out.

With

> > FIR raising

> > Vit D as they have discussed on other list, it is no surprise

that FIR

> > would

> > be bad if so many of us have genetic defect for this D

measurements

> > that can

> > now be tested. Since I did just as well when using saunas w/o

those

> > IR bulbs I

> > think I will now discontinue laying under the IR bulb light in

the one

> > I use

> > now.

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 6/1/2004 12:43:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > writes:

> > I didn't like infrared sauna either--my fibro, which is mild to

> > moderate I guess, got very bad. I had muscle pain all over. I

was

> > using a bulb sauna and stopped. (I was also getting headaches).

It

> > may be toxins, who knows, but a regular sauna did not have this

> > effect on me. We are all individual.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sherry also covers fir in " Detoxify or Die. " I've read many of

her books, but not the Painfree one you cite.

On Tuesday, June 1, 2004, at 10:12 PM, bsgttx wrote:

>

> Laurie,

>

> My experience with FIR is like yours -- very favorable (over 2

> years). It has made a great difference, especially with chronic

> spinal pain which just vanished after the first month. If I get a

> really bad headache that doesn't want to go away, I head for the

> sauna and it helps that.

>

> I do think it adviseable, if one is going to use a FIR, to get Dr.

> Sherry book(or similar book) on " Painfree in Six Weeks " and

> become knowledgable on proper use of it.

>

> bg

[Guest guest]

hi i have tried to cut down the outgassing from jims heater by covering as

much as i can with aluminum foil over cardboard that i fit over objects in

my bathroom...but i cannot cover everything so still get some out gassing

..tealk

> [Original Message]

> From: <jseaton357@...>

> < >

> Date: 6/2/2004 12:09:48 AM

> Subject: conventional sauna wins!

>

> I think that guy from Church of Scientology who has that detox plan he

uses

> for firefighters and others damaged from 911 buildings collapsing uses

> conventional sauna, doesn't he? As for your point about outgassing, yes,

that is why

> many have issues with Jim's heaters for instance, b/c they have to use

them in

> their home where they may have outgassing from walls and such. So from

that

> persective heaters are better, but those are IR bulbs, not FIR

types,

> so unless you spend $3500 on FIR sauna you may be toxifying yourself,

might you

> not be? A public spa health club on the other hand has been around for

years

> and much outgassing has already taken place. Indeed, every one of them

I've

> used has made me feel better, not worse. And best of all, since I go to

> health club anyway, it is free and that just adds to my watermellon grin.

Shame on

> me for grinning :-(

>

>

> In a message dated 6/1/2004 6:54:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

> , I'm concerned about some of the conclusions you seem to be

> drawing in your post. I question whether a free-standing sauna (far

> infrared or conventional) can really be compared with bulbs or heaters

> that people put in a part of their house. That may be the best that

> can be done under given circumstances, I'm just not convinced that the

> results will be comparable.

>

> Since the purpose of the sauna seems to be detox, if you're doing it in

> an environment that's not safe, you very well could be taking in more

> toxins than you are getting rid of, without even realizing it. So many

> building materials do outgas, and heating them makes them outgas more.

>

>

>