Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 Get a longer rope. Adrienne Ampligen I was wondering if anyone had participated in any of the ampligen trials or had otherwise had the drug administered to them. I’ve read some of the literature as to the results of this treatment and have discussed it with a few of the doctors administering it and am very perplexed as to how to proceed especially considering what it costs and the logistics of having to go to Chicago once a week for six months from New York. And although FDA approval is expected in about a year, from what I’ve read and been told, the results are very mixed. I am at the end of my rope, however, and so would greatly appreciate any feedback on this. Thanks a lot. M. Fox, Esq. One Washington Square Apt. 3E Larchmont, New York 10538 Tel: (914) 834-1216; Fax: (914) 831-8473 Mobile: (914) 393-0836 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Hall wrote: " > The upside of the patient populations experimentations over the years with Teitalbaum, Goldstein and I also think its fair to include Ampligen as well as numerous other vanquished protocols is to recognize these essential failures as such. This recognition allows for clearer insight, understanding and a more sober focus to bare on current and future treatment suggestions. " Have you not seen the recent results of the Ampligen Phase III study? They are quite impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi Gail, > ... Unless and until actual causes are found for illnesses, there will be > problems with treatments. However, those who have diseases where the cause is > known have the best chance of recovery. Yes, yes! >...a patent on Ampligen owned by the company...admitted that the drug raised the TNF (tumor necrosis factor)... I didn't know that! I wasn't clear if raised TNF would be good or bad so I looked it up (below.) I'm still not clear. Isn't it a good thing if TNF kills tumor cells? Is the problem that TNF kills other cells as well as tumor cells? Thank you for this important information! Sue B., Upstate New York ------------------------- Tumor Necrosis Factor Serum glycoprotein produced by activated macrophages and other mammalian mononuclear leukocytes. It has necrotizing activity against tumor cell lines and increases ability to reject tumor transplants. Also known as TNF-alpha, it is only 30% homologous to TNF-beta (LYMPHOTOXIN), but they share two receptors. ------------------- Necrosis A pathological process caused by the progressive degradative action of enzymes that is generally associated with severe cellular trauma. It is characterized by mitochondrial swelling, nuclear flocculation, uncontrolled cell lysis, and ultimately CELL DEATH. --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 In a message dated 5/15/2004 1:11:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, rhbailey@... writes: Isn't it a good thing if TNF kills tumor cells? While others think I'm some type of medical expert, I'm not and don't ever write the articles that have " medicaleeze " in them! But a high TNF is not good and it has been found in long-term patients with this illness. Raising it earlier with any drug is not what any patient would want with this illness. I believe (but others may know for sure!) that it was Klimas, M.D. who first found the TNF too high in patients years ago. It was Dr. Kenny DeM. that found a higher value that pointed to better chances of getting cancer but that was in his book and not published in any medical journal that underwent a peer review process. Others on this list probably would be more qualified to explain this to you, though, by far! Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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