FIR troubles

February 21, 2004

Is L. Ron Hubbard using regular sauna or FIR? I started going to another

Bally which has a dry sauna and I did 35 min today. Feel good. I still have

never done a pure FIR sauna but find just regular saunas can work near short

term

miracles.

In a message dated 2/21/04 7:18:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

After I first learned about the FIR and the ease with which you can

use it and even install your own (regular electric outlet, and no

water involved), I was very impressed with all of its health

benefits. Later, someone mentioned to me about a book by L. Ron

Hubbard about detoxing using the sauna. My views do not line up

with Mr. Hubbard on some things, but apparently he was a brilliant

man in a scientific sense. Seems the Church of Scientology has

detox centers all over the country where people can go and have

supervised detoxing. I didn't read the whole book, but seems like I

remember it was used a great deal by those who had been on street

drugs for some time. The detoxing process was said to work by

removing toxins

from layers of the tissues. When this is done, other toxins lower

down in the tissues rise up and the next session in the FIR will

address those. Since these toxins are fat soluble and there are few

ways to rid the body of them, the FIR/sweating can be very

valuable. They give details on doing an intense program if one

wishes to do that.

February 21, 2004

After almost 6 months on the FIR problem, I can definitely say it has been a

rocky road. Initially, I got a real boost from it, which amazed me as I'm so

treatment resistant. Then, on the 2 times a week/20 minute regimen I crashed

severely, and began having lots of cardiac symptoms. I tapered way back on my

sauna sessions, added the zinc and magnesium that Jim recommends, and felt

better. Then, I really couldn't do more than 10 minutes at a time without a

crash, and even that seemed too much at times so I had to do less. I began to

see some slight improvements again, then got the flu or something in December

and crashed again. After that, my cardiac symptoms were even worse. I posted

on the list about this. I stopped the FIR sessions completely and I began to

take biaxin, which I had on hand, and the cardiac symptoms abated very quickly.

I still don't know what's going on with my heart, but something is. My

latest Lyme tests from Igenex were negative, and I have tested negative in the

past on all of the typical heart pathogens, so who knows. Post-abx, I was able

to go right up to 20 minute sessions, and was doing well. Again, though, I

seem to be crashing. I'm not exactly sure what's going on with this, but the

cardiac reaction is what I typically get from any amount of exertion. It helps

to do the sauna mostly lying down. For anyone with MCS (like me), you should

also be mindful of the fact that objects in your sauna space may be outgassing

in the heat. I wear a filter mask in the sauna, and had already coated

obvious outgassing sources with sealant. Bathroom cabinets typically contain

loads

of formaldehyde, so one should be really careful about that, as heat does make

formaldehyde outgas.

I'm not sure what my verdict is at this point, about the FIR sauna. I do

think it helps my body detox and, for someone with MCS, this is a big plus. I

feel less like I'm filled with toxic sludge than usual, especially on the day

after the sauna session. I'm not sure what it's doing on other levels though.

Peggy

February 21, 2004

Peg,

Re: heart symptoms. I have been thru several bouts of that. In my case, very

rapid beating, connected with exertion. Each bout was associated with my overall

condition improving and me doing more. Each time-so far- my heart caught up with

me after awhile. Since the occurrences weren't too frequent and definitely

associated w, exertion, I only worried a little.

Adrienne

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