Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Many thanks for the remembrance of Kim Snyder's 2001 movie " I Remember Me " . I remember " I Remember Me " very well, and remember very well my great expectations of this movie, along with my remembrance of the substantial amount of money I remember that contributed to its final production. I also remember my disappointment in the weakness of this film, and remember kicking myself in the butt that I contributed to it without first seeing it. It is a cute little film, but falls far short of telling the full and tragic story of CFS. As for Paganetti, the high school senior totally bedridden with CFS, the film shows a truly sad story about him, but is easy to see that his father does not believe in CFS and thinks that his son is a mental case. Has anyone on any Internet CFS discussion group heard anything about ? Are his entire family, and all his friends computer illiterate? should by now be a major poster boy for CFS, via Kim Snyder and the CAA. I Remember Me shows three or four Florida women who seem to have fully recovered from CFS, and are leading full and happy later middle-aged lives. Baloney. Most CFS victims their age are now barely able to move, or dead. These three women in the film were just too energetic to be true CFS victims. They must have been mis-diagnosed. I wish I could yuk it up as well as they did for the movie. No brain fog with them! My financial contribution to " I Remember Me " was via the CFIDS Association of America, who pledged that they were going to get it shown on lots of PBS TV stations. Maybe it was, but no schedule of this was sent to CAA members, and none of my family nor scores of my PBS-watching friends reported it to me. I ain't heard nothing about this film since its 2001 release, which did get a lot of nice reviews from film critics, such as Ebert, below. But does not have CFS, so could not truly judge the worth of this film. But where is " I Remember Me " now? " I Long Ago Forgot I Remember Me " , it seems. When I gave my money for IRM's completion, and spent months sending supporting msgs to all the CFS Internet groups about it, and begging their members to contribute, I thought it would be used for years and years as a major educational film about CFS.. Sucker.. Mort Caldwell, PE Age 63, Biomedical Engineer. BSEE and MS in Physiology CFS since July 16, 1994. Rapid Onset. A rather dynamic person before CFS hit me, but now functioning at about 20%, as compared to colleagues my age who do not have CFS. " I remember me " movie review > > http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/2001/12/120702.html > I REMEMBER ME > *** (Not rated) > December 7, 2001 > Featuring: Kim A. Snyder, Akers, Blake and > Paganetti. A documentary written and directed by Kim A. Snyder. No MPAA rating > (unobjectionable for all). Running time: 74 minutes. > BY ROGER EBERT > I now believe in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I was one of many who somehow > absorbed the notion that it was an imaginary illness. I am ashamed of myself. At > the Hamptons Film Festival, I met Kim A. Snyder, who was working as an > assistant producer on a Jodie film when she contracted CFS in 1995. For the > last five years, while still battling the disease, she directed " I Remember Me, " > a documentary which does what the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta > shamefully failed to do: connects the dots. > Snyder begins in Lake Tahoe, where the disease struck hundreds of people. She > talks to Dr. L. , who first started treating CFS patients > there in 1984, has had seven who committed suicide because of the disease, and has > no doubt it is real. She also talks to a spokesperson for the nearby Incline > Village Visitors' Bureau, who says CFS is promoted by " quack doctors and > mostly overweight women. " This person succeeds in becoming the living embodiment of > the real estate brokers in " Jaws, " who don't want anyone to believe there's a > shark. > Yes, Dr. sen sighs, investigators from the CDC in Atlanta looked into > the Lake Tahoe outbreak: " They came out here and skied and looked at a few > charts. " The conclusion was that Chronic Fatigue Syndrome was psychosomatic, or > hysterical, or misdiagnosed. We are reminded that until the 1950s, multiple > sclerosis was also considered a hysterical condition. > Snyder is an investigative journalist who does her own detective work. She > identifies many earlier outbreaks with the same symptoms as CFS and goes to > Punta Gorda, Fla., to visit five women who had the disease 40 years ago. > Investigators visiting their community at the time concluded it was a real disease and > not an imaginary condition, and said so in a report--which the women never > saw. Snyder shows one woman the report on camera. She expresses her anger; this > report would have informed her she was not, as many assured her, going crazy. > Snyder interviews two famous CFS sufferers: the film director Blake , > who has continued to work during remissions in a 15-year struggle with the > disease, and the Olympic gold medalist soccer player Akers, who walked > off a field one day and collapsed. But Snyder's most touching the depressing > visit is to the bedside of Paganetti, a high school senior in > Connecticut. He has been on his back in bed for years. The slightest exercise exhausts > him. He is fed through tubes. Determined to attend his high school graduation, > he's taken there by ambulance and wheeled in on a gurney. Few of his > classmates had come to see him imprisoned in his bedroom; one says " you get better--and > we'll talk! " They give him a quilt they have all contributed patches to. Just > what a high school kid wants for his graduation. > By the end of filming, is still suffering, and indeed less than 20 > percent of CFS sufferers get better, Snyder says. The disease strikes as many > women as HIV. There has been recent progress. J. Suhadolnik, a biochemist > at Temple University, has identified a blood enzyme that acts as a marker of > CFS, after many doctors claimed it had no physical symptoms. A whistle blower > at the Centers for Disease Control has revealed to government accountants that > $13 million was illegally diverted from CFS study to other diseases. Yet TV > comics still joke about the disease as a form of laziness. Ironic, isn't it, > that Kim Snyder wasn't too lazy to make this film--while the CDC and the medical > establishment are only now stirring into action. > Note: For more on Paganetti's story, visit > www.cfids-me.org/cfscc/bass0498.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Mort, I'm not sure how you concluded this: <<As for Paganetti, the high school senior totally bedridden with CFS, the film shows a truly sad story about him, but is easy to see that his father does not believe in CFS and thinks that his son is a mental case.>> I have a copy of the film and watched it again recently, and I thought 's parents were really supportive. I agree with all of your other criticisms of the film though. I found it pretty frustrating overall. It seems like the kind of film a not-so-sick CFIDS patient would make -- one that portrays someone like as the exception (very very ill) and the recovered Florida women as the rule (though they never definitively had CFIDS, for the record -- the filmmaker simply concludes they did by going over old medical records of a cluster outbreak of a mysterious illness back then, which they called " The Thing " ). Snyder is also traveling all over creation in the film, something 80-90 percent of CFIDS patients couldn't do, even the ones who are pretty high functioning. There are so many other patients like out there, of all ages, with very dramatic stories. I don't know why so many moderately ill and/or recovered patients were shown, and there was almost no representation of those of us who are closer to 's level. I did think some of the doctor comments in the film -- esp. those by Klimas and and Bell -- were great. It kind of makes you wonder though -- if Ebert was so moved by THIS film to believe in CFIDS, how would he (or anyone) react if a film portrayed the TRUE gravity of CFIDS patients' disability? I think just about everything in CFIDS literature and research is biased toward the not-so-sick patients, as those are the ones with the ability to get out there and be seen. It drives me crazy. Peggy http://www.angelfire.com/ri/strickenbk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 " I Remember Me " was forgettable, I agree...was it a total waste of film? Was it a carefully concocted smear? How good was the scientific research? Was it incompetent filmmaking, incomplete investigation or purposeful misinformation? Did the makers want a tear jerker or a Bill Moyers investigative piece? For what it is it was OK. The movie does give CFS a face and some depth and background. Having no movie about our plight is worse. Putting a face on the degree of suffering is important PR. My issues with it depend upon whether or not you've read or talked to W. , author or the Busculosis Triangle and the Unfortunate Scull Valley Incident among others. I have spent over 2 hours in conversation with this man and he is very credible. His work is unchallenged by facts only by name calling and finger pointing and through guilt by crackpot association! The CFS Punta Gorda outbreak issue was covered in the movie in detail. The two misinformation/disinformation aspects with the movie's account have to do with what is was really a biological weapons test via infected Mosquitos dumped on the residents of Punta Gorda. 's research backing this claim is convincing. The other is the CFS history issue. Many attempts to give CFS a history, are misguided. Making the condition sound like its been happening all along and we just didn't know about are really just ways to water down the truth of the recent outbreaks and their source(s). From a treatment standpoint, which is what this group is all about, this information is priceless. When we all finally agree that biological weapons do exist, when we agree that our government has them, and when we all finally admit that we've used them, then we; as the patient community can begin asking our government for the " keys to the back door. " Because someone somewhere knows what those key are...no biological weapons maker would make something that cannot be cured. Or would they? Many thanks for the remembrance of Kim Snyder's 2001 movie " I Remember Me " . I remember " I Remember Me " very well, and remember very well my great expectations of this movie, along with my remembrance of the substantial amount of money I remember that contributed to its final production. I also remember my disappointment in the weakness of this film, and remember kicking myself in the butt that I contributed to it without first seeing it. It is a cute little film, but falls far short of telling the full and tragic story of CFS. As for Paganetti, the high school senior totally bedridden with CFS, the film shows a truly sad story about him, but is easy to see that his father does not believe in CFS and thinks that his son is a mental case. Has anyone on any Internet CFS discussion group heard anything about ? Are his entire family, and all his friends computer illiterate? should by now be a major poster boy for CFS, via Kim Snyder and the CAA. I Remember Me shows three or four Florida women who seem to have fully recovered from CFS, and are leading full and happy later middle-aged lives. Baloney. Most CFS victims their age are now barely able to move, or dead. These three women in the film were just too energetic to be true CFS victims. They must have been mis-diagnosed. I wish I could yuk it up as well as they did for the movie. No brain fog with them! My financial contribution to " I Remember Me " was via the CFIDS Association of America, who pledged that they were going to get it shown on lots of PBS TV stations. Maybe it was, but no schedule of this was sent to CAA members, and none of my family nor scores of my PBS-watching friends reported it to me. I ain't heard nothing about this film since its 2001 release, which did get a lot of nice reviews from film critics, such as Ebert, below. But does not have CFS, so could not truly judge the worth of this film. But where is " I Remember Me " now? " I Long Ago Forgot I Remember Me " , it seems. When I gave my money for IRM's completion, and spent months sending supporting msgs to all the CFS Internet groups about it, and begging their members to contribute, I thought it would be used for years and years as a major educational film about CFS.. Sucker.. Mort Caldwell, PE Age 63, Biomedical Engineer. BSEE and MS in Physiology CFS since July 16, 1994. Rapid Onset. A rather dynamic person before CFS hit me, but now functioning at about 20%, as compared to colleagues my age who do not have CFS. " I remember me " movie review > > ><http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/2001/12/120702.html>http://www.sun\ times.com/ebert/ebert_reviews/2001/12/120702.html > I REMEMBER ME > *** (Not rated) > December 7, 2001 > Featuring: Kim A. Snyder, Akers, Blake and > Paganetti. A documentary written and directed by Kim A. Snyder. No MPAA rating > (unobjectionable for all). Running time: 74 minutes. > BY ROGER EBERT > I now believe in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I was one of many who somehow > absorbed the notion that it was an imaginary illness. I am ashamed of myself. At > the Hamptons Film Festival, I met Kim A. Snyder, who was working as an > assistant producer on a Jodie film when she contracted CFS in 1995. For the > last five years, while still battling the disease, she directed " I Remember Me, " > a documentary which does what the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta > shamefully failed to do: connects the dots. > Snyder begins in Lake Tahoe, where the disease struck hundreds of people. She > talks to Dr. L. , who first started treating CFS patients > there in 1984, has had seven who committed suicide because of the disease, and has > no doubt it is real. She also talks to a spokesperson for the nearby Incline > Village Visitors' Bureau, who says CFS is promoted by " quack doctors and > mostly overweight women. " This person succeeds in becoming the living embodiment of > the real estate brokers in " Jaws, " who don't want anyone to believe there's a > shark. > Yes, Dr. sen sighs, investigators from the CDC in Atlanta looked into > the Lake Tahoe outbreak: " They came out here and skied and looked at a few > charts. " The conclusion was that Chronic Fatigue Syndrome was psychosomatic, or > hysterical, or misdiagnosed. We are reminded that until the 1950s, multiple > sclerosis was also considered a hysterical condition. > Snyder is an investigative journalist who does her own detective work. She > identifies many earlier outbreaks with the same symptoms as CFS and goes to > Punta Gorda, Fla., to visit five women who had the disease 40 years ago. > Investigators visiting their community at the time concluded it was a real disease and > not an imaginary condition, and said so in a report--which the women never > saw. Snyder shows one woman the report on camera. She expresses her anger; this > report would have informed her she was not, as many assured her, going crazy. > Snyder interviews two famous CFS sufferers: the film director Blake , > who has continued to work during remissions in a 15-year struggle with the > disease, and the Olympic gold medalist soccer player Akers, who walked > off a field one day and collapsed. But Snyder's most touching the depressing > visit is to the bedside of Paganetti, a high school senior in > Connecticut. He has been on his back in bed for years. The slightest exercise exhausts > him. He is fed through tubes. Determined to attend his high school graduation, > he's taken there by ambulance and wheeled in on a gurney. Few of his > classmates had come to see him imprisoned in his bedroom; one says " you get better--and > we'll talk! " They give him a quilt they have all contributed patches to. Just > what a high school kid wants for his graduation. > By the end of filming, is still suffering, and indeed less than 20 > percent of CFS sufferers get better, Snyder says. The disease strikes as many > women as HIV. There has been recent progress. J. Suhadolnik, a biochemist > at Temple University, has identified a blood enzyme that acts as a marker of > CFS, after many doctors claimed it had no physical symptoms. A whistle blower > at the Centers for Disease Control has revealed to government accountants that > $13 million was illegally diverted from CFS study to other diseases. Yet TV > comics still joke about the disease as a form of laziness. Ironic, isn't it, > that Kim Snyder wasn't too lazy to make this film--while the CDC and the medical > establishment are only now stirring into action. > Note: For more on Paganetti's story, visit > www.cfids-me.org/cfscc/bass0498.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 I was just thinking about this. I really don't " remember me " anymore. My memories of the person I was before this happened are disconnected as if from a movie of someone elses life. I clearly remember telling Dr Cheney what carnage there will be if this horrific illness spreads around the world as easily as it did in Incline and being extremely concerned about my responsibility for spreading it. I was a patient of Dr Cheneys in 1984 before he knew about this mess so for all I knew, I was the person who brought it to Incline. I remember that my concern for my fellow humans was at the very top of my priority list. But after the way CFSers have been treated, I see the spread of this illness as only fitting. Perhaps if enough people get their lives totally slam dunked by this illness it will be a lesson that humans very badly need to be taught. To start acting as if they possess humanity. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 , The past and present of your life are well worth living. Thanks for all you do. " If I can stop one Heart from breaking I shall not live in vain If I can ease one life the Aching Or cool one Pain Or help one fainting Robin (or kitty) Unto his Nest again I shall not live in Vain. " Dickinson > I was just thinking about this. > I really don't " remember me " anymore. My memories of the person I > was before this happened are disconnected as if from a movie of > someone elses life. > I clearly remember telling Dr Cheney what carnage there will be if > this horrific illness spreads around the world as easily as it did in > Incline and being extremely concerned about my responsibility for > spreading it. I was a patient of Dr Cheneys in 1984 before he knew > about this mess so for all I knew, I was the person who brought it to > Incline. > I remember that my concern for my fellow humans was at the very top > of my priority list. > But after the way CFSers have been treated, I see the spread of this > illness as only fitting. > Perhaps if enough people get their lives totally slam dunked by this > illness it will be a lesson that humans very badly need to be taught. > To start acting as if they possess humanity. > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 >My issues with it depend upon whether or not you've read or talked to > W. , author or the Busculosis Triangle and the >Unfortunate Scull Valley Incident among others. I have spent over 2 >hours in conversation with this man and he is very credible. His work >is unchallenged by facts only by name calling and finger pointing and >through guilt by crackpot association! Don lost a bit of credibility with me after his distorted description of the " suspicious modifications to the HVAC at Truckee High School " as a posssible means of dispersing some biological agent through the school. The modifications were done because the south side of the school was unbearably hot during the summer months and the cooling system had to be modified to treat those rooms separately. The reason the windows were bolted shut is because some fool would always try to open them even though it was blazing hot outside. First tried metal louvers were tried to shield the windows before they resorted to customizing the air conditioning system. The biology classroom was on the south side in the " hot zone " and I don't think my old biology teacher, Mr Santa, would have taken kindly to being a test subject for any experiments. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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