Re: Rich: Glutathione, relapse after sex, ciguatera.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mr.Raba,

There is a related article on this subject. It is an old article.Contents

and theory may be discussable.I am posting it here because I thought It is

related to the problem you descibe.

http://www.kuruvinda.com/health_celibacy-5.shtml

Best regards.

Nil

Rich: Glutathione, relapse after sex,

ciguatera.

> Rich,

>

> I am one of those individuals who dramatically responds

> to undernatured whey protein (imuplus in my case).

>

> I have been using it for close to 5 years with dramatic

> and immediate results.

>

> Immediately after taking it, I have to lie down. I can not

> think straight, etc. 30 minutes later it is over. I start

> experiencing dramatic improvements in well being. It is

> ALWAYS that way. Too much, can trigger a worsening of

> my sensitivities and heavy heartbeat at night that does

> not let me sleep.

>

> I any case, I see by personal dramatic experience that

> glutathione is central in our treatment. I have returned

> to work thanks to whey and anticoagulants.

>

> There is a puzzle though that you may find very interesting.

>

> It is the connection with 2 day relapse after sex. Ejaculation

> to be more precise. Since the relapse even happens in wet

> dreams, it is very obvious to me that it is not direclty related

> to the physical activity, or partner satisfaction, but the chemical

> changes that take place after ejaculation.

>

> Several other PWCs have this problem. Due to its nature it is seldom

> discussed. The puzzle is that nowhere

> in the medical literature you can find this phenomenon EXCEPT than

> with ciguatera. This is a very telling association in my opinion.

>

> Taking whey protein during the two days of relapse do two things for

> me:

>

[Guest guest]

Mr. Raba,

Thanks for this fascinating information. I'll give it some

thought. In the meantime, you might find this story from Time

interesting:

http://www.time.com/time/2004/sex/article/sexual_healing_what_fee01a.

html

Rich

> Rich,

>

> I am one of those individuals who dramatically responds

> to undernatured whey protein (imuplus in my case).

>

> I have been using it for close to 5 years with dramatic

> and immediate results.

>

> Immediately after taking it, I have to lie down. I can not

> think straight, etc. 30 minutes later it is over. I start

> experiencing dramatic improvements in well being. It is

> ALWAYS that way. Too much, can trigger a worsening of

> my sensitivities and heavy heartbeat at night that does

> not let me sleep.

>

> I any case, I see by personal dramatic experience that

> glutathione is central in our treatment. I have returned

> to work thanks to whey and anticoagulants.

>

> There is a puzzle though that you may find very interesting.

>

> It is the connection with 2 day relapse after sex. Ejaculation

> to be more precise. Since the relapse even happens in wet

> dreams, it is very obvious to me that it is not direclty related

> to the physical activity, or partner satisfaction, but the

chemical

> changes that take place after ejaculation.

>

> Several other PWCs have this problem. Due to its nature it is

seldom

> discussed. The puzzle is that nowhere

> in the medical literature you can find this phenomenon EXCEPT than

> with ciguatera. This is a very telling association in my opinion.

>

> Taking whey protein during the two days of relapse do two things

for

> me:

>

> 1.- Improves my physical well being.

>

> 2.- Increases anxiety and aprehension to high levels. The more whey

> the higher the anxiety.

>

> A mixed blessing..

>

> During those two days I stay home, since I can not deal with much.

> Can hardly drive, my ability to concentrate decreases sharply, get

> very sensitive to light, sounds, etc. Urinate tremendous amounts

> (blood volume compression?)

>

> The effect of sexual activity is cumulative. That is having

> two consecutive days will produce a harder crash, but it always

> resolves in 2 to 3 days from the last ejaculation. The magical

> 48 to 72 recovery period from relapse!(in my case. I know that

> others can take much longer. See poll)

>

> There are several other men PWCs who have this marked relapse

> after ejaculation, or as one put it " nocturnal emissions " .

>

> I think that mother nature is giving us a very strong clue here.

> One that most people for some unknown reason keep on ignoring.

>

> PWCs relapse after sex just like people with Ciguatera. I have

found

> no other disease where this relapse happens

> with the neurological constellation explained earlier.

>

> I am very interested in what you could make from this very

interesting

> symptom and the high anxiety reaction to whey during that type

> of relapse. It happens every single time, no exceptions.

>

> Earlier I noticed that the relapse is easier with Acethyl-L-

Carnitine.

> But unfortunately I had to stop using it. Side effects...

>

> I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on this.

>

> Mr. Raba

> PWC since February 1993

[Guest guest]

That link is broken, but it leads to a site search and I used sexual healing and

found an article.

I like this info better than the stuff we received earlier saying sex was

debilitating. Better science, I think.:-)

Adrienne

Re: Rich: Glutathione, relapse after sex,

ciguatera.

Mr. Raba,

Thanks for this fascinating information. I'll give it some

thought. In the meantime, you might find this story from Time

interesting:

http://www.time.com/time/2004/sex/article/sexual_healing_what_fee01a.

html

Rich

> Rich,

>

> I am one of those individuals who dramatically responds

> to undernatured whey protein (imuplus in my case).

>

> I have been using it for close to 5 years with dramatic

> and immediate results.

>

> Immediately after taking it, I have to lie down. I can not

> think straight, etc. 30 minutes later it is over. I start

> experiencing dramatic improvements in well being. It is

> ALWAYS that way. Too much, can trigger a worsening of

> my sensitivities and heavy heartbeat at night that does

> not let me sleep.

>

> I any case, I see by personal dramatic experience that

> glutathione is central in our treatment. I have returned

> to work thanks to whey and anticoagulants.

>

> There is a puzzle though that you may find very interesting.

>

> It is the connection with 2 day relapse after sex. Ejaculation

> to be more precise. Since the relapse even happens in wet

> dreams, it is very obvious to me that it is not direclty related

> to the physical activity, or partner satisfaction, but the

chemical

> changes that take place after ejaculation.

>

> Several other PWCs have this problem. Due to its nature it is

seldom

> discussed. The puzzle is that nowhere

> in the medical literature you can find this phenomenon EXCEPT than

> with ciguatera. This is a very telling association in my opinion.

>

> Taking whey protein during the two days of relapse do two things

for

> me:

>

> 1.- Improves my physical well being.

>

> 2.- Increases anxiety and aprehension to high levels. The more whey

> the higher the anxiety.

>

> A mixed blessing..

>

> During those two days I stay home, since I can not deal with much.

> Can hardly drive, my ability to concentrate decreases sharply, get

> very sensitive to light, sounds, etc. Urinate tremendous amounts

> (blood volume compression?)

>

> The effect of sexual activity is cumulative. That is having

> two consecutive days will produce a harder crash, but it always

> resolves in 2 to 3 days from the last ejaculation. The magical

> 48 to 72 recovery period from relapse!(in my case. I know that

> others can take much longer. See poll)

>

> There are several other men PWCs who have this marked relapse

> after ejaculation, or as one put it " nocturnal emissions " .

>

> I think that mother nature is giving us a very strong clue here.

> One that most people for some unknown reason keep on ignoring.

>

> PWCs relapse after sex just like people with Ciguatera. I have

found

> no other disease where this relapse happens

> with the neurological constellation explained earlier.

>

> I am very interested in what you could make from this very

interesting

> symptom and the high anxiety reaction to whey during that type

> of relapse. It happens every single time, no exceptions.

>

> Earlier I noticed that the relapse is easier with Acethyl-L-

Carnitine.

> But unfortunately I had to stop using it. Side effects...

>

> I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on this.

>

> Mr. Raba

> PWC since February 1993

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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[Guest guest]

Rich,

Interesting article. I had oxytocin injections prescribed to

me by Dr. Goldstein in LA. They did not help.

I think that there might be some higher use of certain

enzymes, proteins and minerals as pointed by the article

posted by Nil. I believe that the general tone of that article

is negative towards sex. Although some of the quotations are

ancient, I think maybe some supplementation might work.

I think that the problem is a toxin interfering with the

normal hormonal/chemical recuperation from seminal loss.

Do you know of a more recent article regarding the

connection between neurasthenia and sexual activity?

Can one obtain phosphorous lecithin?

Mr. Raba

> > Rich,

> >

> > I am one of those individuals who dramatically responds

> > to undernatured whey protein (imuplus in my case).

> >

> > I have been using it for close to 5 years with dramatic

> > and immediate results.

> >

> > Immediately after taking it, I have to lie down. I can not

> > think straight, etc. 30 minutes later it is over. I start

> > experiencing dramatic improvements in well being. It is

> > ALWAYS that way. Too much, can trigger a worsening of

> > my sensitivities and heavy heartbeat at night that does

> > not let me sleep.

> >

> > I any case, I see by personal dramatic experience that

> > glutathione is central in our treatment. I have returned

> > to work thanks to whey and anticoagulants.

> >

> > There is a puzzle though that you may find very interesting.

> >

> > It is the connection with 2 day relapse after sex. Ejaculation

> > to be more precise. Since the relapse even happens in wet

> > dreams, it is very obvious to me that it is not direclty related

> > to the physical activity, or partner satisfaction, but the

> chemical

> > changes that take place after ejaculation.

> >

> > Several other PWCs have this problem. Due to its nature it is

> seldom

> > discussed. The puzzle is that nowhere

> > in the medical literature you can find this phenomenon EXCEPT

than

> > with ciguatera. This is a very telling association in my

opinion.

> >

> > Taking whey protein during the two days of relapse do two things

> for

> > me:

> >

> > 1.- Improves my physical well being.

> >

> > 2.- Increases anxiety and aprehension to high levels. The more

whey

> > the higher the anxiety.

> >

> > A mixed blessing..

> >

> > During those two days I stay home, since I can not deal with

much.

> > Can hardly drive, my ability to concentrate decreases sharply,

get

> > very sensitive to light, sounds, etc. Urinate tremendous

amounts

> > (blood volume compression?)

> >

> > The effect of sexual activity is cumulative. That is having

> > two consecutive days will produce a harder crash, but it always

> > resolves in 2 to 3 days from the last ejaculation. The magical

> > 48 to 72 recovery period from relapse!(in my case. I know that

> > others can take much longer. See poll)

> >

> > There are several other men PWCs who have this marked relapse

> > after ejaculation, or as one put it " nocturnal emissions " .

> >

> > I think that mother nature is giving us a very strong clue here.

> > One that most people for some unknown reason keep on ignoring.

> >

> > PWCs relapse after sex just like people with Ciguatera. I have

> found

> > no other disease where this relapse happens

> > with the neurological constellation explained earlier.

> >

> > I am very interested in what you could make from this very

> interesting

> > symptom and the high anxiety reaction to whey during that type

> > of relapse. It happens every single time, no exceptions.

> >

> > Earlier I noticed that the relapse is easier with Acethyl-L-

> Carnitine.

> > But unfortunately I had to stop using it. Side effects...

> >

> > I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on this.

> >

> > Mr. Raba

> > PWC since February 1993

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences

with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in

any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

>

>

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