Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 I have used a couple different transfer factors. I went to Dr. Brewer in Kansas City a year and a half ago. He is an infectious disease specialist. He decided I had HHV6a, based on my clinical symptoms, (he ignored my past history of tick bites, and bulls-eye rash completely) and he based his diagnosis on his past experience with CFS patients, (but did not do any pathogen testing) and recommended that I take Immunity Today's Immune Care 64 Transfer Factor, which is for HHV6a and b, EBV and Cytomegalovirus. The recommended way to take it was to take one capsule a day for 7 days, increase to two capsules a day for 7 days, then three capsules a day from then on. I herxed for the first five days each time I increased the dosage. But after that I had some improvement. But over time the improvement seemed to disappear. Immunity Today suggests that it be taken indefinitely. This past May I went out to see Dr. Shoemaker in land, and after running some tests he decided I have Lyme. He also did not do any actual pathogen testing, but based on the clinical symptoms, my past tick exposure, and his experience with patients, and his particular combination of other lab tests, he became convinced that Lyme was the underlying cause of my symptoms. I did three weeks of doxy, and herxed from it. He then started me on Cholestyramine, and I did that for two and a half months, with no improvement, and in fact got worse. So I decided on my own to try a Lyme specific transfer factor. I started using Chisolms ImmuneFactor 2, which covers EBV, Cytomegalovirus, Chlamydia pneumoniae, Borrelia burgdorferi (cell-wall deficient Lyme), HHV6, Babesia, and Ehrlichia. And again I herxed horribly for several weeks on it, but then began to have some good improvement. But nothing close to getting well and back to full functioning. Chisolms recommends that it be taken for six months, and then stopped, with only a few doses required every 3 to 4 months to maintain immune function. So I am currently not on any transfer factor right now, and am due for another pulsed dose of it in a few days. I have benefited from taking transfer factor. But it hasn't gotten me completely well. But the fact that I haven't had pathogen testing to confirm what I have may mean I'm not hitting the target completely. I'm pretty certain I do have Lyme though, because I've had two bulls-eye rashes, a history of being bitten by ticks on numerous occasions, including deer ticks, and including ticks from states with a high occurrence of Lyme, an episode of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever when I was younger that might have included other tick-borne pathogens, and I have herxed on Lyme specific transfer factor, and a Lyme specific nosode. The Lyme specific nosode would not cause herxing at all if I didn't have Lyme. Plus Dr. Shoemaker's genetic testing showed a gene that he says he only sees in chronic Lyme patients. And I have the clinical symptoms of Lyme, including arthritis and neurological symptoms, including evidence of ongoing neurological damage that causes micro-seizures, according to my bioneurofeedback therapist. I'm currently doing a natural approach to try to deal with it, but I get the feeling that I'm eventually going to end up seeing an LLMD, and trying long-term antibiotics, if I don't have success with this. lindaj@... Immune re-set with TF > Hi All, > > Has anyone benefited from Transfere Factor? I appreciate that there are a > number of specific TF's but it would be useful to hear from anyone having > had some positive experiences using these type of supplements. > > Thanks > A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 , what is the gene that Dr. Shoe sees only in lyme patients? (Not that I believe that's accurate, but just curious). Ive had lyme 3.5 years now. I'm sure if you had 2 bullseyes you have lyme--that alone is diagnostic. It almost never goes away on its own. If you don't want to do antibiotics, alternative methods include hyperbaric, rife, and ozone. Hyperbaric helps a lot but rarely cures on its own. Rife some people say it cured them, others improved, others can't tolerate and a few crash and get worse. There are different rife devices as you know. Ozone, only a few lymies have tried ozone saunas, those who have all get improvement. One is cured, the other 75% better, the other is doing all sorts of stuff including rife and about every supplement you can think of and chelation so I can't make head or tails of his reports, and the fourth, she has only had it for a few months but feels better with it. If you herxed on doxy, then perhaps seeing an LLMD and getting on a few years of antibiotics is worth it. As long as you don't have candida problems or have sensitivities. Some people do well on those regimens and others don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 I found found that transfer factor is incredible for symptom reduction, I don't know how I would make it without it. I am not cured but as soon as the sore throats and fevers start I realize I haven't been taking my TF regularly. I currently take the one for CMV and EBV (I have EBV and had CMV in the past.) I do have HHV6 so I am going to start taking that one too. That is the more expensive one. Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Dear Doris, and all, Dear Doris, Thanks for your reply. It's good to know that types of Tranfer Factor are helping you. How did you know that you had CMV & EBV? I live in England so the tests I will have had will have been fairly limited. Where did you go for your tests? Thanks for your tips on pulsing or taking TF every 60 days to give your system a boost. What promted you to try TF and in particular the " Chisolm TF " ? How did you decide upon the dosage when first buying it and how to regulate it afterwards? I found your comments and the experiences of others really helpful as I am sure did the rest of the group. Thanks A Re: Immune re-set with TF > I found found that transfer factor is incredible for symptom reduction, I don't know how I would make it without it. I am not cured but as soon as the sore throats and fevers start I realize I haven't been taking my TF regularly. I currently take the one for CMV and EBV (I have EBV and had CMV in the past.) I do have HHV6 so I am going to start taking that one too. That is the more expensive one. > > Doris > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 I did basic antibodies testing which found EBV and HHV6, and I can tell from symptoms when they are worse. Many people get PCR testing done for these common viruses, but it is complicated and expensive. If your antibodies are high, then it shows at least that you have past exposure. Personally when I am sicker my numbers are higher, and when I am better the numbers are lower. And if you have flu-like symptoms combined with basic antibody testing, I don't know why people bother with PCR for these viruses. Doris ----- Original Message ----- Dear Doris, Thanks for your reply. It's good to know that types of Tranfer Factor are helping you. How did you know that you had CMV & EBV? I live in England so the tests I will have had will have been fairly limited. Where did you go for your tests? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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