Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 I'm still trying to catch up on posts that I missed while I was away over Thanksgiving for a week in a home without a computer! But I'm aware that there have been several references to my experience with hGH and the genovations panel. Just to clarify: Cheney would very likely have put me on hGH regardless of my genovations results. The dose is so low, and my other immune tests looked okay, so I think he would have okay'd it. The hGH can have a slight tendency to shift folks more towards Th2 who are already shifted!! (I wasn't.) It can also, in some people, stimulate the replication of already active viruses. (I had none.) However, I think Cheney said that it's a little like Russian Roulette in compromised folk: it may push you into further trouble, or it could actually help your immune system reach better balance and therefore fight any pathogens. However, because of the fragile state of so many of us, Cheney always errs on the side of safety and caution, and thus is very cautious about the use of hGH and especially the boving growth factors. The concerns about hGH shifting the immune system and stimulating viral replication are magnified many times over with the bGFs. They are much more potent that the hGH in terms of these possible side effects. To be accurate, Cheney said that if the genovations immune panel had been available at the time, he would not have put me on the combination of hGH and bovine growth factors, at least not without a year of modulation. And, I suspect, close monitoring during the use of the bGFs. If I stated that it was hGH else where, I apologize. My use of hGH was part of Cheney's study on the combination of hGH and bGF's, and I began the bGF's soon after the hGH. And if you'll recall, I had no problems with the first round of bGFs, which lasted six months. Just very dramatic improvement. And the second round of bGFs went well until the very end, when I had stopped using several of the immune modulators and my stress level had increased, since I was beginning to pursue possibilities of volunteering and eventually returning to work and getting off disability. And even though my immune system went into disarray and opened the door for all kinds of stuff, some very interesting benefits still occured as a result that I've just documented. I'll put that in another post. Oh, the main point of this - there is no one single test result that would indicate that you are / are not a candidate for hGH or the hGH/bGF combo. Cheney looked for normal NK function, normal (near zero) RNase L levels, and no active pathogens (CFS Panel at mdlab.com or mdlabs.com) And he would also consider the genovations panel as an indication of how much immunmodulation you might need, especially with the bGFs. I needed a lot, and I need to be on them all continuously for the rest of my life, since these are inherited abnormalities. We didn't know this until I had the genovations test. Take care. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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