TRANS-D TROPIN - a better HGH

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Has anyone used this product?

I just recently switched from exogenous HGH injections (Genotropin) to

Trans-D tropin and transdermal gel which contains certain amino acids which

help stimulate the body's own endogenous secretion of GH. There are several

studies which tout the benefits of this drug over the injectable form and it

apparently has no side effects, speaking of which, I was getting when I was

on Genotropin for a little more than 6 mos. In addition, the risk of viral

replication and tumor growth when using TDT would not be an issue since

you're not injecting GH intop the body, but letting the body make it on its

own.

Here is just one of the studies:

http://www.bpharmacysolutions.com/trans_abstract.htm

>From: " Bullock " <reviewappraiser@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Adrienne -bovine growth factors; immune

>testing

>Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:59:23 -0700

>

>Adrienne,

>

>HGH increases viral replication so you have to be careful and modulate

>immune system. This stuff increases my level of functioning. More energy,

>improved cognitive function. Women's Int'l Pharmacy (AZ) or Cocoon

>Nutrition (do google search). WIP is usually cheaper but they may no

>longer

>carry Natcell. A lot of places carry the products so you may find a

>cheaper

>source with an internet search. I took 2x a week until condition at 90%

>then switched to maintenance dose of 1x a week. Good luck, Steve B.

>

>

> >From: " Adrienne Gomez " <duckblossm@...>

> >Reply-

> >< >

> >Subject: Re: Adrienne -bovine growth factors; immune

> >testing

> >Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:05:46 -0600

> >

> >

> > Steve,

> > Thanks so much for your response. I had long wondered what results

>your

> >efforts had achieved. When I was very foggy, before b12, your posts were

> >more understandable to me than most others, so I was particularly

> >interested.

> >

> > Taking stuff is a drag but it sure beats the alternative. I can't

>afford

> >much testing, so since I was not troubled by any symptoms of debased

> >immunity for a long time-or at least the grosser symptoms-obvious

> >infections- I went ahead and started on homeopathic growth hormone. I was

> >very pleased to find I soon had increased muscle strength and endurance.

>It

> >felt different than just " more energy. " It didn't have any buzz to it. My

> >activity level definitely went up.

> > Homeopathics are not " supposed " to be able to cause any harm, but it

>was

> >not long before I got 2 infections overlapping-shingles and staph a. Now

>I

> >am going to get on Iso, and try again. I sure liked feeling stronger, but

> >the abx I had to use for the staph started bothering my gut, and I do not

> >want to go there again if I can help it.

> >

> > It does not sound like anything that is broken is actually getting

> > " repaired " , only perhaps, supported. Unless, as you infer, repair is a

>very

> >long term process.

> >

> > You used to list long lists of supplements. I am presuming that you

>are

> >still taking many of those. I am wondering precisely what it is the

>natcell

> >changes for you? Is it something you can pinpoint, or are you just

> > " better? "

> >

> > I notice the Natcell product is pretty pricy; did you previously need

>to

> >take it more than 2x/wk? What is the cheapest source for it you have

>found?

> >

> > Thanks for your continued contributions to this group.

> > Adrienne Gomez

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Adrienne,

> >

> > Have been through 4 or 5 courses of the bovine growth factor/HGH

>therapy

> >+

> > Pinextra, Isoprinosine to balance immune system. I am now taking

> >Natcell's porcine mesenchyme/cns combo 2x a week. During my last course

>i

> >was able to

> > get to 95% normal but when I went off the stuff my condition

>regressed.

> > However, a few months after each course my regressed or baseline

> >condition

> > was improved. I hope one day I will be able to go off the stuff for

> >good

> > but I doubt it. I think I will always need to be on the stuff at

>least

> >6

> > months of every year, probably two 3-month courses at a minimum.

> > Personally, I find the pure cns growth factor to be by far the most

> > beneficial. I was told Natcell should soon have the pure " porcine "

>cns

> >but

> > last time I checked they only had the " bovine " pure cns. I have

>avoided

> >all

> > bovine since the small mad cow outbreak in Alberta. Steve B.

> >

> >

> > >From: " Adrienne Gomez " <duckblossm@...>

> > >Reply-

> > >< >

> > >Subject: Re: bovine growth factors; immune

>testing

> > >Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:41:40 -0600

> > >

> > >Dear Carol,

> > >Until now I have been able to participate only occasionally in this

> >forum,

> > >so I never heard of your crash, so a belated sympathy to you. I was

> >just

> > >wondering if anyone ever got so well that could do without some of

>the

> > > " stuff. " I suspected not. Alas.

> > >If you don't mind-2 questions; do you still need to take whey? Before

> >you

> > >had crashed had you done a long course of abx?

> > >Thanks so much.

> > >Adrienne Gomez

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >One of the reasons I crashed so badly last year was that I stopped

> >taking

> > >many things because I was feeling better and thought I didn't need

>them

> > >anymore!!!

> > >

> > >Carol Sieverling

> > >

> > > " jill1313 " wrote " Sorry for the ignorance, I know what growth hormone

> >is

> > >but what are 'bovine factors' ? Is there a website i can read? And

> >what

> > >are the immune indicators that would make a person likely to crash? "

> > >

> > >

> > >