Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Hi everyone, I need some suggestions for a good mineral supplement. I use Water Oz's Mg and Zn supplied by Jim as part of the program. Apart from that, I need a supplement with a complete spectrum of minerals including all the trace minerals. I was using Source Naturals' colloidal trace minerals supplement. But I read in Jeffries book (Adrenal fatigue) that they contain a high amount of toxic metals like arsenic. I had used " Rockland Bodybooster " once before. " it is a liquid concentrate of a natural assortment of more than 70 water soluble minerals from prehistoric plants " Seems like something good to take. Just want other's experience with a good mineral supplement. I am doing the FIR and also started doing NDF. So, I dont to become very mineral deficient. Thanks for your replies, Gayathri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Deb, I'm really happy to hear that you and Jeff are cooperating on writing a book about mercury. What a formidable team! I'm also happy to hear that Jeff is going to pursue study as a naturopath. I've been impressed in the past by some of the ideas he has come up with using his engineering background, and I think he will really benefit by getting some more formal biochemistry and physiology under his belt to help refine his ideas even more. I'm also very impressed by the volume and accuracy of the information on your website. You have clearly done your homework on mercury! I'm sorry that Ray is having new problems. I used to be in internet groups with Ray and Jeff, but have been out of touch with both of them for quite a while. I'm also happy to see this interaction between you and . It sounds like your experience with kids could be very relevant to her case. It's really good to have you here! Rich > Jeff and I are currently working on a book about mercury...Ray..definitely has had great input into the issue and I exchange thoughts with him occasionally..he has been very ill after an accident and we are all watching him closely...Jeff and Ray did collaborate on Jeff's supplements..but essentially Jeff has done a ton of work since..and is now entering ND school this fall. He will be co-authoring with me...so you will see his name in my newsletters.. > > What did happen to me though is that I was hospitalized when I was 8 and given a few weeks of heavy antibiotics. Shortly thereafter (within a year I would say) I developed burping , which is very unusual for a child. I suspect what happened is the ab's changed my gut flora and also allowed a yeast overgrowth. I imagine the yeast overgrowth in the large bowel is getting into the small bowel and causing the spaciness/gas,but I don't know for sure > > Oh, yes..absolutely...I treat kids like you were everyday...its amazing how ADHD, and all sorts of " learning " disabilities go away with proper ph balancing and probiotics..can't believe what kids are given these days...not to mention vaccines....my next newsletter deals with this...just nuts! > Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 I'm confused about the Goat Mineral Matrix. In looking up things on the net, I came across Gardens of Life Goatein, which was specified to NOT be it, and Acid Defense, which is a mineral concentration from goats milk, and Mt. Capra Mineral whey, which is from goats, but I can't find Goat Mineral Matrix. Is that the brand name, and where can it be purchased from? What is the differences between Acid Defense, Mt. Capra Mineral whey and Goat Mineral Matrix? lindaj@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 : GMM is from St Francis Herbs in Ontario... Deb Re: Re: good mineral supplement I'm confused about the Goat Mineral Matrix. In looking up things on the net, I came across Gardens of Life Goatein, which was specified to NOT be it, and Acid Defense, which is a mineral concentration from goats milk, and Mt. Capra Mineral whey, which is from goats, but I can't find Goat Mineral Matrix. Is that the brand name, and where can it be purchased from? What is the differences between Acid Defense, Mt. Capra Mineral whey and Goat Mineral Matrix? lindaj@... This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Hi, I am very happy with Albion chelated minerals. I get their multi-mineral from Swanson's. Best, H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Re: good mineral supplement Deb, I'm really happy to hear that you and Jeff are cooperating on writing a book about mercury. What a formidable team! Hi Rich: Thanx...yes we are having fun with it...but I don't know how long it will take...time's a real tough one.. I'm also happy to hear that Jeff is going to pursue study as a naturopath. I've been impressed in the past by some of the ideas he has come up with using his engineering background, and I think he will really benefit by getting some more formal biochemistry and physiology under his belt to help refine his ideas even more. Yes, I think Jeff will make a phenominal practitioner..he's the best at seeking answers...research.etc... I'm also very impressed by the volume and accuracy of the information on your website. You have clearly done your homework on mercury! Thanx..its take a couple of years of work getting what I have up there..and there is so much more I want to add. My goal is to provide people with enough information to help themselves with out necessarily going to high priced alternative practitioners..at least in the beginning...we all know how well modern medicine does with chronic health care (Not!)..so with some basic knowledge I believe people are very intuitive about themselves and can put 2 and 2 together quite often. The ins and outs of biochemistry and energetics needn't be the big mystery a lot of clinicians would have people believe. Mercury has been my particular bent for the past 15 of my 25 years in practise..and it spills into so many health issues..that I felt it needed to be defined first..but I am now doing a lot of work on the GI...where I believe so many things begin...Ah...I could spew on and on..but you know what I mean..<grin> I'm sorry that Ray is having new problems. I used to be in internet groups with Ray and Jeff, but have been out of touch with both of them for quite a while. I can't believe the troubles that poor guy has been through..seems to just keep coming... I'm also happy to see this interaction between you and . It sounds like your experience with kids could be very relevant to her case. Yes, I have seen many ADD, ADHD, autistic kids...you know the issues come down to similar things as CFS... It's really good to have you here! Thanx again..fun to participate when I can... Oh, a patient from California sent me this link today...about some " amazing " peptide found in crocodiles..according to them..kills all types of superbugs which is a huge issue as you know...let me know what you think. It makes sense biochemically that the answer lies in a peptide. http://www.biological-miracle.biz/index.php?re%66%65%72%72er=sal%65%73 Cheers, Deb Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Hello : Yes, I am fully aware of what peptides are...and in a perfect world..a perfect body with perfect digestion you would be absolutely correct. However, as with any chronic health situation, the digestive tract is usually far from competent and if the peptide they speak of is small ..such as 1-3 amino acids (oligopeptide) then its passage would likely be quite efficient. " Leaky gut " or incompetent membranes of any description are the " norm " in chronic illness..as is abnormal flora growth, imbalance immunoglobulins, decreased seratonin, etc. Having said that..its not that I am supporting their claims..but I like to look at anything with a " what are the possibilities of this being even partially true? " and " would that help people? " I must say that usually the effectiveness of anything against latent toxic virus or bacteria falls within the realm of some fatty acid affecting the membranes of the offenders..such as the protective fatty acids found in olive leaf extract..or organic coconut oil.... We know that bacteria etc can leave protein residues with our DNA to create or at least contribute to chronic illness...so could the converse be true? I don't have these answers..just musings.... I plan to contact them to see if they have any independent studies...they certainly have had media coverage if you look at their links...So I guess what I am saying is that I'm not ready to call them fraudulent yet...but yes, of course more information is needed..for sure! Cheers, Deb good mineral supplement Dear Baker-Racine; Peptides are a string of amino acids linked together. There is almost zero chance that they would survive intact in the digestive tract and even less chance that they would be absorbed intact, so it is reasonably certain that the sellers of that peptide are at the least providing nothing of value and at the worst are fraudulent. Sincerely, Weber This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Deb, What is your " work " that you refer to? thanks, penny > Hello : Yes, I am fully aware of what peptides are...and in a perfect world..a perfect body with perfect digestion you would be absolutely correct. However, > as with any chronic health situation, the digestive tract is usually far from competent and if the peptide they speak of is small ..such as 1-3 amino acids (oligopeptide) then its passage would likely be quite efficient. " Leaky gut " or incompetent membranes of any description are the " norm " in chronic illness..as is abnormal flora growth, imbalance immunoglobulins, decreased seratonin, etc. > > Having said that..its not that I am supporting their claims..but I like to look at anything with a " what are the possibilities of this being even partially true? " and " would that help people? " I must say that usually the effectiveness of anything against latent toxic virus or bacteria falls within the realm of some fatty acid affecting the > membranes of the offenders..such as the protective fatty acids found in olive leaf extract..or organic coconut oil.... > > We know that bacteria etc can leave protein residues with our DNA to create or at least contribute to chronic illness...so could the converse be true? I don't have these answers..just musings.... > > I plan to contact them to see if they have any independent studies...they certainly have had media coverage if you look at their links...So I guess what I am saying is that > I'm not ready to call them fraudulent yet...but yes, of course more information is needed..for sure! > Cheers, > Deb > good mineral supplement > > > Dear Baker-Racine; > Peptides are a string of amino acids linked together. There is > almost zero chance that they would survive intact in the digestive > tract and even less chance that they would be absorbed intact, so it > is reasonably certain that the sellers of that peptide are at the > least providing nothing of value and at the worst are fraudulent. > Sincerely, Weber > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Hello Penny: I am a chiropractor..but have a Master's in nutrition and a diplomate in homeopathy. My " modus operandi " I guess..is Functional Medicine with IFM headed up by Dr. Jeff Bland. Which I guess means..we look at what the biochemical pathways to " normal " are...determine how various problems have (health issues) have bent that out of shape and try to re-construct the normal pathways again...hope that's not confusing... My main area has been mercury detoxification..I work very closely with incredibly biological dentists here...and from there have been led into CFS, FM, Autism and issues that often have mercury poisoning as a component... Hope that helps.. Cheers, Deb good mineral supplement > > > Dear Baker-Racine; > Peptides are a string of amino acids linked together. There is > almost zero chance that they would survive intact in the digestive > tract and even less chance that they would be absorbed intact, so it > is reasonably certain that the sellers of that peptide are at the > least providing nothing of value and at the worst are fraudulent. > Sincerely, Weber > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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