Re: Biomeridian based therapies for allergies, pathogens, emotions

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and anyone else into NAET, BioSET, JMT, accupuncture, muscle

testing, AK, ART, neural therapy, etc...What Dr.

(www.carolinahealthquest.com)has found out is that his electrical

application after prior analysis using Elton Pigg device (the Pigg

device he made using computer application lists all the pathogens one

has and treatment that used to require the Pigg device can now be

done using electrocution of photographs or actually prayer) treats

pathogens. It does not zap them so they do not appear on antibody

tests but it is said to basically put up a barrier and prevent

interaction of the parasite and the host, thereby keeping the

parasites (any pathogens causing harm) from sucking the energy right

out of you by getting a free ride when they don't belong there. I

visited him last night and come to find out a patient of his found

that it took two prayers for the readings on the device to show all

pathogens come up negative instantly, rather than the typical 4 weeks

of electrocution of photograph he was doing. Well Dr. went

to a spiritual conference in Raleigh like 3 weeks ago and learned

quite a few things and he is improvising them into what he knows with

the Elton Pigg techniques. So as where before he was only able to

treat the pathogens he can now treat allergies and emotions too. He

measured my allergies last night for instance and I had 52 single and

6 double (combined). Now, where something like BioSET has to go one

by one and find them individually (I used to go through this when I

was doing a NAET based protocol 2 years ago that failed to cure me or

even make the difference b/t night and day I was hoping...skeptics

will say " Duh! " , haha) and then have you come back for multiple

visits so they can eliminate them the way Dr. is able to do

it he can do them all at once and doesn't have to waste the time and

energy of asking what they individually are in the first place.

Seems superior to me for sure. Of course if you are into BioSET and

say this sounds like bologna b/c it's too good to be true then I

don't see how you can think that b/c I am not all too sure of this

energy medicine stuff myself in the first place. All I know is if it

works then this should be a better way about it as it makes a huge

leap in the weakness of BioSET/NAET type of therapies, which like I

said I did in the past and saw Pat Omeinski (popular NAET guru who

does her own seminars/conferences) originally to set up my whole

protocol. This stuff is brand new and he is discovering this stuff

himself. I called him this morning then and told him if he is

covering pathogens, allergies and emotions then what about

neurotoxins and he seemed very cognizant of the idea of mold getting

into the body and damaging the nervous system and said he'd look into

it. So who knows. Now, if you don't understand anything about this

that is fine and to be expected. A lot of folks on here know about

this stuff but either don't take the time to post about it or don't

want to look stupid for their actual belief in it as it comes across

as bologna to folks like Mike and n. It is not my purpose to

censor skeptics by requesting that such people not comment as it is

to just prevent unneeded posts when I already know how people think

concerning this and if you don't believe in it nothing will change

your mind anyway. I forgot what the term is but a friend of mine

told me there is some law that is a fact that scientists fail to take

into account and that is that for instance if they set up a test to

watch the reactions of mice they forget the idea that the mice being

watched may affect the experiment. I told my friend this who is as

close minded as anyone on things like energy medicine or even Rife

machines or in the past even that I had CFS, as he is a scientist, a

nuclear physicist and his first assumption with anything is to think

that something he does not have an answer for cannot possibly work (I

wouldn't be surprised, n, that Amazing Randi would be one of the

first to suggest that CFS is all in your mind). Why they think like

this is beyond me as his own hero Einstein did not think like this,

recognized and appreciated the beauty of God's universe and even

studied Astrology. And anyway, even that friend of mine agreed with

the concept of the mice being watched affecting the experiment. Now

in the day and age of more developing quantum physics (our computers

will eventually use quantum physics). Interestingly Dr. did

say that the real spiritualists he has met (like the one at the

spiritual conference in Raleigh) tell him about the folks doing

things on stage or camera that it's not that what they do is not

possible but it's just that if they were real they could not

reproduce what they do under those circumstances. There is the ego

which is always involved and has to be removed from the

practitioner's equation before he can treat. Much in the same way

muscle testing or dowsing could not be used for things much other

than health related b/c either it is perhaps abuse or more

importantly, if it could all be brought down to using a means of

testing that is 100% correct then it would take faith right out of

the equation and throw faith out the door, and w/o faith is how

Amazing Randi wishes to live his life. Now I'm waxing religion as

well as philosophical, aren't I? So in essence, I hereby suggest

that faith is part of the equation and that perhaps sometimes the

placebo isn't really placebo but an interuption of a mental blockage,

an emotional disturbance being released such as happens with NAET or

BioSET. You don't have to have faith for this stuff to work but you

do for you to believe in a Supreme Being who enables this stuff to

work. For those who like biblical analogies, remember that

theoretically ANYTHING is possible for those who believe and yet

Christ could not perform miracles in his own home town due to their

belief. I'm afraid that disproving some things is as futile as

disproving God's existence (i.e., it cannot be done and yet Randi is

atheist as if he KNOWS there is no God) and just b/c you can't prove

it works does not mean it does not work. Sorry, but there ARE things

in this universe that we still do not understand and probably never

will b/c we are finite beings. All I care is does it work and that

is where I join the skeptics. " Show me the money " was made popular

with Jerry MacGuire and so " Show me the health " is my motto. I hope

I get something out of this Elton Pigg exploration more than just

feeling a bit better which I am currently doing.

> Concerning mold and Dr. Shoemaker and what I understand from

talking with

> him in my appointment, and reading his book " Desperation Medicine " ,

he

> believes that some people are genetically susceptible to molds

because their

> bodies lack the ability to eliminate the toxins from the molds.

>

> It's not quite the same thing as an infection, where mold would

actually

> colonize in the person, although I'm assuming that is possible with

a

> break-down of a person's immune system, although whether or not we

would be

> a mold's preferred food is another story. Certainly our sinuses and

lungs

> provide a moist, warm environment with food, but not necessarily the

> preferred food of a particular mold. It's just the toxins that the

mold

> produces that are in the person that he believes causes neurotoxic

> illnesses.

>

> And what this means is that even brief encounters with mold can

cause

> long-term problems. Avoiding mold may not eliminate the

consequences of

> exposure to mold. The damage is cumulative, so each mold exposure

increases

> the accumulation of toxins. But you become ill when your threshold

for

> coping with the mold toxins becomes reached. And that is often

precipitated

> by a stressor, like an infection, an injury, or extreme stress. It

doesn't

> have to be an infection of anything. Of course, if you have that

genetic

> susceptibility and were colonized by toxin producing molds, you

would likely

> have a very serious problem.

>

> So my understanding is that if you have a toxin problem with mold,

going to

> the ocean or desert once you've already been exposed to it and

become

> symptomatic, would not necessarily provide any relief from the

symptoms. On

> the other hand, if avoiding the mold does make you feel better,

than likely

> you have a mold allergy. There's a difference between having an

allergy to

> mold, and not being able to eliminate the mold toxins. I would

assume that

> many have both a genetic susceptibility to mold, and a mold

allergy, and

> avoiding mold would bring about some relief, but not total relief.

So they

> might feel better at the ocean or desert, but not become completely

well.

>

> Just to throw a monkey wrench into things, you can also have an

intolerance

> to mold, that is not a genetic susceptibility to mold toxins, and

isn't an

> actual allergy, but is more of a reaction to the energy fields of

things.

> (Biomeridian based therapies like NAET and BioSET treat this kind of

> reaction) I think that many non-allergic MCS or Environmental

Illness

> reactions are this kind of reaction. An MCS reaction to molds would

not

> necessarily induce hives, asthma or swelling, and an actual immune

system

> response, but would induce symptoms such as dizziness, electrical

> sensations, nausea, seizure activity, etc., without any immune

system

> response. And avoiding mold would alleviate the symptoms, just as

if you had

> an allergy. But you don't have to be genetically susceptible to the

toxins

> of mold in order to have this problem. And it wouldn't show up in a

standard

> allergy test such as a skin prick test.

>

> You can have the same type of MCS reaction to geopathic stresses,

EMF

> fields, and other non-toxin energy fields. And with these things,

there is

> no accumulation of what you are intolerant to. And in this case,

> Cholesteramine might not do anything, if there was no actual

accumulation of

> toxins.

>

> Of course, the body often reacts to toxins that it has an

intolerance to by

> accumulating them. People who have intolerance's to mercury, for

example,

> will accumulate mercury, rather than excreting it. And then when the

> intolerance is removed, their bodies will dump the toxin in large

amounts,

> making it difficult for NAET and BioSET practitioners to treat

mercury

> toxicity without supplemental things to help mop it up as quickly

as it is

> dumped from the body. Treating for mold with NAET might cause the

body to

> dump the toxins if the person doesn't have the genetic inability to

> eliminate the toxins. I think that this may be one reason that some

people

> get sicker when they have NAET treatments.

>

> But you can combine the genetic inability to eliminate the toxins

and the

> intolerance to the energy fields of molds, and an allergy to molds,

and have

> one very sick person.

>

> The intolerance factor without genetic susceptibility is one of the

things

> about Dr. Shoemaker's theories that I feel is still missing. He has

> allergies to perfumes, and has a sign in his office that requests

people not

> wear perfumes to office visits, and the receptionist asks people

not to wear

> perfumes or to use scented personal hygiene products when she

schedules

> appointments.

>

> I've heard rumors that Dr. Shoemaker has MCS. If Cholesteramine

were able to

> treat MCS or allergies, it would have done so for him. So apparently

> Cholestyramine can deal with toxins, but not whatever is at the

heart of

> some intolerance's and allergies for some people. So from my

perspective, it

> seems like a combination of a biomeridian based therapy such as

NAET, in

> combination with Dr. Shoemaker's treatments, might be what some

people need

> to resolve problems with molds.

>

> I think it gets more complicated than that, though. I think that

there are

> other things that can induce a sensitivity to mold that once you

eliminate,

> the sensitivity to molds disappears. I think that this is part of

what's

> involved with the Coagulase Negative Staph infections that Dr.

Shoemaker has

> concerns with. And it can be visa-versa, where you have a problem

to mold,

> and it causes a CNS problem to develop, which then in turn

contributes to

> the mold intolerance, and you have to address all the congruent

problems in

> order to eliminate the problem.

>

>

> lindaj@h...

>

> Re: Re: Allergies, infrared sauna--

Mike

>

>

> > Dr. Shoemaker I thought was more into the infection side of it

but I find

> > it difficult to quite understand whether this is true.

> >