Adrenals/Mercury poisoning

[Guest guest]

> Pam,

>

> I can see how mercury toxicity could deplete glutathione and

> therefore suppress the immune system. I don't know specifically

how

> it would affect the HPA axis, but since mercury binds to

sulfhydryl

> bonds wherever it can find them, it would not be surprising to me

if

> it could affect the HPA axis.

Hi Rich

Thanks for your detailed answer. Its strange but I just know that

it was the mercury that gradually gave me so bad ill health.

Looking back it was about 30 years ago when I first started to get

health problems like very severe hay fever, nickel allergy and began

picking up every virus going and not being able to throw it off.

Gradually over the years my health got worse and worse even though I

exercised very regularly. I agree my diet in the early years wasn't

good, I was a carb and sugar addict and no way did I eat enough

protein until a few years ago. However I didn't really gain any

weight until about 10 years ago when I went up to about 140 lbs. At

my sickest in 2000 I put on 17 lbs in a few months but glad to say I

am now back to around 143 lbs.

I also suffered a lot of stress as a child because I had a father

who was quite cruel. Undoubtedly I feel this over-sensitised my

nervous system but my problems didn't really start until I was into

my 20s. I had had quite a lot of amalgams placed during my late

teens and continued to get quite a lot more of them over the years.

I had to have a total of 13 teeth redone to get rid of all the

amalgams.

Is it possible that stress on its own can cause depletion of

glutathione? I would have thought it needed something more (like a

heavy metal poisoning) to really get one into trouble.

My endocrine system is doing much better and I seem to have found

the ideal combination for me at the moment of 1 grain Armour and 5

mg hydrocortisone breakfast and the same amount with lunch. I still

have a tendancy for my bp to drop quite low, say 105/40 at times but

this coincides with the blood sugar drops I still get. However the

h/c seems to stop the effects of this drop in my brain, namely I

don't feel so dizzy or unwell and quickly recover when I eat a snack

of protein plus a little carb. Often after a short rest the bp will

rise back to a normal level.

I have also found that I do well on Alpha Lipoic Acid 30 mg every 3

hours for say 5 days at a time as a chelator of the mercury but I

make sure I have as many days off in case there are undesirable side

effects for my body (as reported by Andy Cutler). However I don't

take the nightime dose he recommends and don't find that this causes

me any problems. When I took 50 mg every 3 hours I did feel

terrible so am going to be patient and stick with the lower dose. I

notice that Dr Lester Packer who did many research studies using ALA

states the half life is 8 hours whereas Andy insists its only 4

hours.

I am very hopeful of almost a full recovery but I am accomplishing

so much more than I could ever have believed last year. My son and

his partner moved house on Friday so I looked after my 17 month old

grandson every day since Wednesday with his staying overnight

Friday. Although I did feel tired I was ok and could keep going as

long as I had some rests inbetween. I was still able to go out and

see friends and do normal household chores. No way could I have

done anything like that pre removal of the amalgams.

By the way I no longer suffer fatigue at all it went about 6 weeks

after the last removal (before I started the Armour and h/c). My

remaining problems are the drops in blood sugar and problems in my

thigh muscles when walking for more than 20 minutes at a time.

However recovery now happens in minutes so you can imagine I am

really thrilled. I just hope that many other people can also

benefit in the way I have but I do realise we need help especially

with the endocrine problem. So many doctors won't try treatments

because of normal blood tests. All of my endocrine blood tests are

normal by the way though the T4 was on the low side. My DHEA is

always high for some reason I can't work out.

Best Wishes

Pam

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

Your DHEA may be high because your adrenals still aren't supplying

sufficient cortisol--even with your hydrocortisone supplement. DHEA

is a precursor to cortisol and your body will automatically increase

the supply of DHEA when cortisol levels drop. Have you had a recent

ASI test?

- don

> > Pam,

> >

> > I can see how mercury toxicity could deplete glutathione and

> > therefore suppress the immune system. I don't know specifically

> how

> > it would affect the HPA axis, but since mercury binds to

> sulfhydryl

> > bonds wherever it can find them, it would not be surprising to me

> if

> > it could affect the HPA axis.

>

> Hi Rich

>

> Thanks for your detailed answer. Its strange but I just know that

> it was the mercury that gradually gave me so bad ill health.

> Looking back it was about 30 years ago when I first started to get

> health problems like very severe hay fever, nickel allergy and

began

> picking up every virus going and not being able to throw it off.

> Gradually over the years my health got worse and worse even though

I

> exercised very regularly. I agree my diet in the early years

wasn't

> good, I was a carb and sugar addict and no way did I eat enough

> protein until a few years ago. However I didn't really gain any

> weight until about 10 years ago when I went up to about 140 lbs.

At

> my sickest in 2000 I put on 17 lbs in a few months but glad to say

I

> am now back to around 143 lbs.

>

> I also suffered a lot of stress as a child because I had a father

> who was quite cruel. Undoubtedly I feel this over-sensitised my

> nervous system but my problems didn't really start until I was into

> my 20s. I had had quite a lot of amalgams placed during my late

> teens and continued to get quite a lot more of them over the

years.

> I had to have a total of 13 teeth redone to get rid of all the

> amalgams.

>

> Is it possible that stress on its own can cause depletion of

> glutathione? I would have thought it needed something more (like a

> heavy metal poisoning) to really get one into trouble.

>

> My endocrine system is doing much better and I seem to have found

> the ideal combination for me at the moment of 1 grain Armour and 5

> mg hydrocortisone breakfast and the same amount with lunch. I

still

> have a tendancy for my bp to drop quite low, say 105/40 at times

but

> this coincides with the blood sugar drops I still get. However the

> h/c seems to stop the effects of this drop in my brain, namely I

> don't feel so dizzy or unwell and quickly recover when I eat a

snack

> of protein plus a little carb. Often after a short rest the bp

will

> rise back to a normal level.

>

> I have also found that I do well on Alpha Lipoic Acid 30 mg every 3

> hours for say 5 days at a time as a chelator of the mercury but I

> make sure I have as many days off in case there are undesirable

side

> effects for my body (as reported by Andy Cutler). However I don't

> take the nightime dose he recommends and don't find that this

causes

> me any problems. When I took 50 mg every 3 hours I did feel

> terrible so am going to be patient and stick with the lower dose.

I

> notice that Dr Lester Packer who did many research studies using

ALA

> states the half life is 8 hours whereas Andy insists its only 4

> hours.

>

> I am very hopeful of almost a full recovery but I am accomplishing

> so much more than I could ever have believed last year. My son and

> his partner moved house on Friday so I looked after my 17 month old

> grandson every day since Wednesday with his staying overnight

> Friday. Although I did feel tired I was ok and could keep going as

> long as I had some rests inbetween. I was still able to go out and

> see friends and do normal household chores. No way could I have

> done anything like that pre removal of the amalgams.

>

> By the way I no longer suffer fatigue at all it went about 6 weeks

> after the last removal (before I started the Armour and h/c). My

> remaining problems are the drops in blood sugar and problems in my

> thigh muscles when walking for more than 20 minutes at a time.

> However recovery now happens in minutes so you can imagine I am

> really thrilled. I just hope that many other people can also

> benefit in the way I have but I do realise we need help especially

> with the endocrine problem. So many doctors won't try treatments

> because of normal blood tests. All of my endocrine blood tests are

> normal by the way though the T4 was on the low side. My DHEA is

> always high for some reason I can't work out.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Pam

[Guest guest]

Hi

Can you clarify? You said you do the ALA 30mg every 3 hours for 5 days, but

later that you don't take the nighttime dose. So are you saying that you go

every 3 hours during the day, but don't wake up every 3 hours during the nights?

Thanks,

Doris

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From: doggy532001 <pam.clewley@...>

I have also found that I do well on Alpha Lipoic Acid 30 mg every 3

hours for say 5 days at a time as a chelator of the mercury but I

make sure I have as many days off in case there are undesirable side

effects for my body (as reported by Andy Cutler). However I don't

take the nightime dose he recommends and don't find that this causes

me any problems. When I took 50 mg every 3 hours I did feel

terrible so am going to be patient and stick with the lower dose. I

notice that Dr Lester Packer who did many research studies using ALA

states the half life is 8 hours whereas Andy insists its only 4

hours.

[Guest guest]

> Hi

> Can you clarify? You said you do the ALA 30mg every 3 hours for 5

days, but later that you don't take the nighttime dose. So are you

saying that you go every 3 hours during the day, but don't wake up

every 3 hours during the nights?

> Thanks,

> Doris

Hi Doris

Yes, having read so much research about ALA and Dr Packer stating

its half life was 8 hours I decided to be guided by how my body felt

so I tried the 30 mg every 3 hours throughout the day taking the

last dose at 11 pm and the next one about 7 am. On this regime I

have felt really good with no side effects and could easily carry it

on indefinitely. However I am concerned about the side effects of

chelating without a break so won't risk it (rise in copper etc).

Will stick to a maximum of 5 days on 5 days off.

Pam

[Guest guest]

> Hi Pam,

>

> Your DHEA may be high because your adrenals still aren't supplying

> sufficient cortisol--even with your hydrocortisone supplement.

DHEA

> is a precursor to cortisol and your body will automatically

increase

> the supply of DHEA when cortisol levels drop. Have you had a

recent

> ASI test?

>

> - don

Hi Don

Before I started any treatment for my thyroid and adrenals I had a

24 hour Saliva Stress Test done through a reputable lab here in the

UK. My results showed a perfectly normal Circadian rhythm starting

off medium in the ref range to lowish levels at 12 noon, medium at 4

pm and medium at midnight. It didn't indicate anything could be

abnormal except the DHEA which was as follows -

8 am 22.1 ref range 4-29

12 noon 14.3 ref range 2.5-13

4 pm 12.6 ref range 2-6 (more than double)

midnight 6.5 ref range 1-4

It just goes to show one shouldn't just stick to lab results

especially with mercury poisoning. Whose to say it gets into the

cells where its needed? I understand mercury can be sitting in the

receptor sites where the hormones are needed.

Pam

[Guest guest]

Pam, as per your concern about chelating constantly, I take 50 mg Nature's

Way ALA morning and night and only take Sunday off--6 days a week--and I have

only gotten better and better.