Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Kathy, Thanks very much for giving detailed info on Dr. Corsello's book.This was kind of you.What does she recommend to support the adrenals?Also is there anything she recommends for the " wired feeling " other than Melatonin? Thanks. Nil Re: Dr. Corsello: The Ageless Woman | ----- Original Message ----- | From: " Trudy Newman " <tnew@...> | > Hi everyone, | > | > I just picked up Dr. Corsello's book " The Ageless Woman " from my local | > bookstore and I was flipping through it and find that I am very pleased | | > I have also received my copies of Dr. Sherry 's books " No More | > Pain " and " Detox or Die. " The only problem is that the place where I | > purchased them must have used incense and I find it so overpowering that | > I can't read my books. Does anyone have any suggestion for taking this | > smell out of the books? (I have tried baking soda and Nil Odor, but | | > Kind regards, | > Trudy | | | | | Hi Trudy- | | I am SO MCS that I have to put things out side and let them air out for a | long time. The record so far was around 3 months with some paperwork that | came from a place that was very heavily scented. It's hard with paper | products cause they can't be washed in powdered milk. I too would be | interested if anyone else has suggestions on this as one of my books from | Santa is sitting outside on the porch. That's where everything sits to | offgas that can't be washed. | | I love Dr Corsellos Book and see why Rich so strongly recommends it. Of | particulary note to me personally is: | | 1. Support the adrenals before supplementing the thyroid. | 2. When someone wakes up the next morning not hungry for hours, it's cause | the liver is working so hard to detox. | 3. How to effectively deal with estrogen dominance and natural HRT. | 4. Liver spots..a sign of things to come (dementia), why it happens and how | to treat the liver therefore they disappear. | 5. The Bowel Programs | 6. The fact the all the Corsello Center Supplements are to her | specifications without fillers | | All of the above apply to me and I am really loving this book. I took it | with me to my natural healer the other day and she tested me on four | products in the book that I am interested in trying. Also, the Detox Tonic | Tea that she has on page 113...she tested me on that also. I tested | negative on the recipe as written so we then tested each individual herb. | We eliminated six of them and I am now sitting here drinking a tea made of | dandelion/fenugreek/milk thistle and burdock root. I must say that so far, | the dandelion tea she been having me drink for the past three weeks or so | seems to be helping with detoxing. I have noticed that it is a very common | herbal ingredient with quality detox supplements. | | Boy, I don't know how I got off on that!.....Anyway, the Detox or Die book | is absolutely excellent and in my opinion is Dr best book so far. It | is the perfect compliment to a few of her other books. Hope you can read | your new ones soon!! Or maybe you can just bundle up and go outside to read | them for now!!....lol..... | | Kathy | | | | | | | | | | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2003 Report Share Posted January 10, 2003 Kathy, Don't know how to thank you for the detailed info you have given.I will check the supplements. By " wired feeling " I mean being tired but not being able to relax and rest. If it happens during daytime,you want to move and move and think and think no matter how tired your body is.If it happens during night you have difficulty to sleep.In more scientific words it is Hypothalamus-Pituitary-adrenal axis over-activation. Not all adrenal exhausted people have HPA axis overstimulation. This over-stimulation seems to be important feature of CFS and I don't think it may be possible for the adrenals to recover fully if the person can not find a way to stop this over activation.I personally have moved back and forth between different stages of adrenal exhaustion couple of times because I could not keep this activation in control.I get proper rest and start recover.As soon as my adrenals start getting better I start moving around because of this over stimulation and deplete them again. Thanks again. Nil Re: Dr. Corsello: The Ageless Woman | From: " Yildiz " <ng2113@...> | > Kathy, | > kind of you.What does she recommend to support the adrenals?Also is there | > anything she recommends for the " wired feeling " other than Melatonin? | > Thanks. | > Nil | | | Hi Nil- | | As far as adrenal support, she references it is several places in her book. | | Page 151 and 152 offers this: | | START | " The adrenals under certain circumstances contain large quantities of Vit C | and B5 (pantothenic acid)-important ingredients for the hormonal facotory. | Any supplement taken to support the adrenal must contain these two vitamins. | Make sure to also take a good multi-vitamin and mineral supplement. In | addition, take Vit C with bioflav to bowel tolerance, Vit E (at least 400 | mgs) and 100 to 500 mgs of Vit B5 two times per day. It is also important | to replenish Vit B6 (100 to 200 mgs), Potassium (70 mgs) and Zinc (25 to 50 | mgs), since their urinary excretion is accelerated during periods of | stress. Adding an adrenal extract supplement, such as CC (Corsello Centers) | Adreno Max or CC Adreno Support, provides addt'l support for the glands. | DHEA can also help help, but as it is a powerful hormones, it is prudent to | use it wisely and preferably under medical supervision " . | | Digestive Support | | Since stress breaks down protein to make sugar for the fight or flight | response, make sure you consume adequate amounts of easily digestible | proteins. I recommend the protein shake ( listed in another section of the | book). | | END of pg 151/152 | | 2 scoop high quality protein powder (she recommends Metagenics Ultra Meal | Plus) | 2 TBSP of Flax powder or oil | 2 TBSP mixed fiber powder (soluble or insoluble) | 1/4 cup mixed berries (low in sugar, high in anitoxidants) | 8-12 oz purifiied water | | | Corsello Center Supplements are made to her specs and are filler free: | | AdrenoMax Ingredients: | Raw Adrenal Concentrate 200 mgs | Vit C 50 mg | Vit B5 125 mgs | | | Adreno Support Ingredients: | Vit C 50 mgs | Vit B6 12.5 mgs | Vit B5 125 mgs | | | It's hard to answer what one should do specifically. She gives case | examples all over the book. One example: | | One woman who had low progest, high metals which were interfering with the | tissue binding of the thyroid hormone. She has hypothy, anemia, elevated | cholest, adrenal function was marginal. Dr C explains that given her | overall understanding of the clinical hypothyrodism picture, thryoid | supplementation should be delayed as with her level of toxicity, the hormone | might not have been able to adequately bind to tissues anyhow and might have | caused heart palpitations. | | So, first off was a bowel healing program, blood type diet, nutrient | infusions. At same time, natural progesterone cream and supported the | thryoid with homeopathics. Made sure enough zinc and selenium. In this | case, used Adreno Max and DHEA to support her adrenals. A few months later, | they added 30 mg of Armour. One month later her cholest returned to normal | and her anemia disappear. | | That's the kind of example that she give all over the book. There are | several that are very, very close to my situation. Along with the book came | an order form for the supplements. She sells both CC exclusive only as well | as some others. For Adrenal Support, she sells the two CC products, | Standard Process Drenatrophin and Thytropin. There is also another product | listed that I am not familiar with called Ora-Adren-80. | | The past few days have been pretty good for me...I just started to take the | Standard Process Drenamin after it was energy tested as something my body | needs. At the same time I am doing this new herbal tea. I am the example | above of hypo on Armour with palpitations and knew when I read this in her | books that the metals in my body must be doing the tissue binding and this | is why the Armour hasn't helped like to should. My healer tested me to both | the Corsello Center adrenal products and they tested as way to strong for my | body. | | Nil- can you describe a little more what you mean about the " wired " feeling? | Do you mean can't get to sleep cause body and mind a racing type of wired? | Or some type of energy surges during the day? If I get a better | understanding of this, I will try and see what she says in the book on it. | She has about 20 pages referenced to Melatonin alone! | | Kathy | | | | | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 )I understand you so well. Thanks.Kathy for the info you have given.Thanks for mentioning about garum Armonicum. I have heard of it before.I wonder if anyone on the list has used it. Could you please mention more about how she describes the action mechanism of Melatonine,if you have time. Thanks very much. Nil ---- Original Message ----- From: <polkadot@...> < > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:13 AM Subject: Re: Dr. Corsello: The Ageless Woman | | | Hi Nil- | | You give a great description of the " wired thing " , I have never been able to | articulate it to people the way that you just did. Do I have your | permission to use this myself in the future?..lol...I have so little | original thoughts of my own anymore...too tiring. | | Ok...after some digging, Dr C talks extensively about Melatonin. BTW, she | says it also helps to regulate estrogen dominance which I did not know. | Anyway, I know exactly the " wired thing " you describe and tried to find | where she may refer to something like that. Someone else who has the book | may have found something more appropriate but here's one reference that I | thought was interesting: | | Page 188 | | Starts on page 187 under Sleep Disturbance and she is discussing | Melatonin...she prefers sublingual. Anyway, new paragraph on page 188 says: | | " Since calcium is a natural tranquilizer, taking your calcium supplement at | bedtime will help relax you (see the section titles Osteoporosis later in | this chapter). For women who are very anxious or tend to ruminate once they | get into bed, I often recommend Stabilium (Garum armoricum). Garum | armoricum is a natural product, derived from fish viscera, which the Romans | gave to their battle fatigued veterans in their famous spas to speed their | recovery. It has been researched internationally and is currently widely | used in France and Japan. Recently, its effectiveness in relieving anxiety | was validated in an American study. Stabilium 200 decreases the production | of the stress hormone, ephinephrine. It works the same way as valium, but | without the side effects " . | | She likes the Stabilium from ARG. | http://www.allergyresearchgroup.com/proddesc/category/brain.htm#71150 | | Obviously, she is relating this to nighttime trying to go to sleep although | I have this " wired thing " all the time, daytime as well. Boy, great | description she gives using the word ruminate. That's exactly what I | do...the head is going and going and the body won't go. It sounds like this | Stabilium is more like a suppressive therapy though. | | I'll keep my eyes out for anything else on this. The book is so packed with | info I have to keep tackling sections of it at a time. Of course, with the | brain compromises, I have to re and re-read and re-read and ......!!! | | Kathy | | | | | | | | | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Doris, Having less night sweats may also mean that you have moved into later stages of the illness.I had night sweats for about 10 years but I don't have them since 2000 which was the time I started feeling very exhausted.I also have no more immune system problems. Nil Re: Dr. Corsello: The Ageless Woman | Interesting. I take a lot of melatonin to sleep, and around that same time | my night sweats got much better which I was told were probably related to | estrogen. Never imagined there might be a connection. Melatonin is a | powerful antioxidant so that makes me happy too. | Thanks, | Doris | ----- Original Message ----- > Ok...after some digging, Dr C talks | extensively about Melatonin. BTW, she | > says it also helps to regulate estrogen dominance which I did not know. | > Anyway, I know exactly the " wired thing " you describe and tried to find | > where she may refer to something like that. Someone else who has the book | > may have found something more appropriate but here's one reference that I | > thought was interesting: | | | This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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