Re: glutathione amino acid powder -

[Guest guest]

,

My gut has real problems with the Whey powder too. So much so, that

I discontinued use of it. I'm thinking of trying CFS

Nutrition's " Defense Formula " to raise my Glutathione level (see

http://www.cfsn.com/defense.html) and their " Replenish Formula "

(http://www.cfsn.com/replenish.html) to support antioxidation.

I read a transcript of one of Dr. Cheney's speeches, where he said

that raising Glutathione levels is really hard, and that Whey powder

was the only thing they found that did the job. However, I wrote

Jeff at CFS Nutrition about this claim, and he wrote back:

" [Dr. Cheney people] haven't tried our Glutathione Precursors product

[Defense Formula]. The literature is extremely clear that NAC raises

glutathione. In practice there is a limit to taking this amino acid

alone however. So maybe that is what they are implying.

We've found the blend of NAC along with the other two amino acids

that form glutathione do not produce the same side effects as does

taking too much NAC in isolation.

Gram for gram, dollar for dollar our amino acid blend is going to

yield you more glutathione. At most 1% of the whey has glutathione

precursors in it, so you have to take at least 100 times the amount

as of the amino acids. "

I would be very curious if anyone on this list has experience

with " Defense Formula " and " Replenish Formula. "

- don

> <PRE> ANybody using an easy brand on the stomach of Aminos which

convert to Glutathione? Which brand? And are shots necessary , if

your gut is ripped up? also, anyone try high dose Glutathione = like

900-1,400 mg. twice a week. Since it doesnt last in the blood that

long, what would be the SHOTS advantage for longterm effects?

short=term, it clears my head & helps me walk staright. Thanks,

[Guest guest]

> Also, Cheney did do a study, although it was small, showing the

results of the whey and it was effective - urinary lipid peroxides

went down.

-- did Cheney's patients fatigue lessen as well?

thanks - don

[Guest guest]

,

Taking one of the undenatured whey protein products, such as

ImmunePro Rx, together with a high-potency general nutritional

supplement, such as Sparx (www.krysalis-sparx.com) is a good way to

build glutathione, so long as you don't have an allergy to whey

protein.

Rich

> In a message dated 12/23/02 11:24:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> richvank@a... writes:

>

>

> > to

> > become healthy, but it is not a sufficient thing. These other

> > aspects must also be addressed.

> >

> > As I've been discussing lately, I think that Dr. Corsello has a

very

> > sensible sequence of treatment to correct these various

aspects.

> > Restoring the glutathione is part of it, but it isn't the whole

> > thing.

> >

> > Rich

>

>

> Along these same lines..I just got back a very low glutathione

test result

> and I am looking at the best ways to increase my glutathione as

well. I know

> to take NAC, glycine, and glutamic acid. But what else is

considered good to

> increase glut? Has anyone tried the glutathione creams that we

hear about?

> I could do injections but would rather not. Anyone have success

raising glut

> levels and would you please share how you did it? Thank you

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Is it possible that you have a large body burden of mercury or

another heavy metal? Mercury is known to block the enzymes that

make glutathione from amino acids, such as those in whey protein.

Also, are you getting the essential vitamins and minerals together

with the whey protein? These are necessary as cofactors for making

glutathione.

Rich

> In a message dated 12/23/02 3:13:47 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> richvank@a... writes:

>

>

> > ImmunePro Rx, together with a high-potency general nutritional

> > supplement, such as Sparx (www.krysalis-sparx.com) is a good way

to

> > build glutathione, so long as you don't have an allergy to whey

> > protein.

> >

> > Rich

>

>

> Thank you Rich. The problem is that I have been taking enormous

amounts of

> whey (one of which is the kind you mentioned above) and I am still

severely

> low.

>

>

>