Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 Somish Atrium is the company that made the strongest pregnenolone that helped me so much for awhile. I was not able to find them on the web, could you please tell me how to contact them? fetal bovine factors hello all, had intersting conversations with two different people who are familiar with fetal bovine factors. one is that the company, atrium that makes them is aware that the expense is stopping more patients from using them, so they have produced a mesycheme/adreanl( or thymus?) combination which is now being tested and i am assuming less expensive ( two for the price of one) also that due to the cost, dr cheney , isnt offering it as a mainline treatment , being more interested in finding things to help the larger masses that are more affordable. He is truly amazing to have done so well on six /nine patients as a first time health care provider using them . so who knows down the road what will be there and hoping more can afford it and maybe some it will help alot. somish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 Is Dr. Cheney not using growth factors at all anymore, or is he just recommending it sparingly. I have an appointment with him in July and as I am near the end of my recovery I am hoping he will prescribe GH and GFs for me. If he still uses GF what form is it? Chris due to the cost, dr cheney , isnt offering it as a mainline treatment , being more interested in finding things to help the larger masses that are more affordable. He is truly amazing to have done so well on six/nine patients as a first time health care provider using them . so who knows down the road what will be there and hoping more can afford it and maybe some it will help alot. somish. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 I just saw Dr. Cheney in May and he has recommended that I begin the growth factors after I take Isprinisone for four months (to modulate my immune system). I have already been taking Growth Hormone shots for one year and have seen some improvement in my symptoms. Lynn > Is Dr. Cheney not using growth factors at all anymore, or is he just > recommending it sparingly. I have an appointment with him in July and as I > am near the end of my recovery I am hoping he will prescribe GH and GFs for > me. If he still uses GF what form is it? > > Chris > > > due to the cost, dr cheney , isnt offering it as a mainline treatment , > being more interested in finding things to help the larger masses that are > more affordable. He is truly amazing to have done so well on six/nine > patients as a first time health care provider using them . so who knows > down the road what will be there and hoping more can afford > it and maybe some it will help alot. somish. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 hi paul, i dont know how to contact atrium myself, they only deal with health care proffessionals and pharmacies. I do know that womens international pharmacy distributes their growth factors for dr cheney patients. i have the number for the wisconsin branch 1-800-279-5708 which maybe able to help u. they do have a web site .( thier arizona branch sells the growth factors) douglas lab is a long shot, carries some of the atrium products may have that if u can find a place that sells it .( i know vitamin shoppe from my own shopping has some douglas lab products but i bet other places carry it also) hope this helps . good luck. somish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 Hi Lynn; Would you share the dose of the growth hormone you've been taking? Thanks, Fran tloyd61275 <tloyd@...> wrote: I just saw Dr. Cheney in May and he has recommended that I begin the growth factors after I take Isprinisone for four months (to modulate my immune system). I have already been taking Growth Hormone shots for one year and have seen some improvement in my symptoms. Lynn > Is Dr. Cheney not using growth factors at all anymore, or is he just > recommending it sparingly. I have an appointment with him in July and as I > am near the end of my recovery I am hoping he will prescribe GH and GFs for > me. If he still uses GF what form is it? > > Chris > > > due to the cost, dr cheney , isnt offering it as a mainline treatment , > being more interested in finding things to help the larger masses that are > more affordable. He is truly amazing to have done so well on six/nine > patients as a first time health care provider using them . so who knows > down the road what will be there and hoping more can afford > it and maybe some it will help alot. somish. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2002 Report Share Posted June 5, 2002 I am taking the mini-quick dose of .2 (not sure if it is mg.). It is the smallest dose. Lynn > > Is Dr. Cheney not using growth factors at all anymore, or is he > just > > recommending it sparingly. I have an appointment with him in July > and as I > > am near the end of my recovery I am hoping he will prescribe GH and > GFs for > > me. If he still uses GF what form is it? > > > > Chris > > > > > > due to the cost, dr cheney , isnt offering it as a mainline > treatment , > > being more interested in finding things to help the larger masses > that are > > more affordable. He is truly amazing to have done so well on > six/nine > > patients as a first time health care provider using them . so > who knows > > down the road what will be there and hoping more can afford > > it and maybe some it will help alot. somish. > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2002 Report Share Posted June 5, 2002 Dr. Cheney told me that 6 out of 9 patients that took the GH and GF returned to work. That's pretty incredible. I'm willing to do just about anything for a 66% chance to go back to work. He did say that the three people who did not do well actually had a major worsening of the symptoms. Perhaps that was uppermost in his mind in January. Lynn > > Is Dr. Cheney not using growth factors at all anymore, or is he > just > > recommending it sparingly. I have an appointment with him in July > and as I > > am near the end of my recovery I am hoping he will prescribe GH and > GFs for > > me. If he still uses GF what form is it? > > > > Chris > > > > > > due to the cost, dr cheney , isnt offering it as a mainline > treatment , > > being more interested in finding things to help the larger masses > that are > > more affordable. He is truly amazing to have done so well on > six/nine > > patients as a first time health care provider using them . so > who knows > > down the road what will be there and hoping more can afford > > it and maybe some it will help alot. somish. > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2002 Report Share Posted June 5, 2002 --- If you have been taking Growth Hormone shots for a year, why will the Growth Factors make any difference? Do you know or can some one find out if the GH and GF treatment is good for the brain symptoms and does it help the fatigue? also, how do you know when you have been immune modulated??? what test do you have o do and what do you go on to modulate ur system? is it isoprinosine? thanks @y..., " tloyd61275 " <tloyd@c...> wrote: > Dr. Cheney told me that 6 out of 9 patients that took the GH and GF > returned to work. That's pretty incredible. I'm willing to do just > about anything for a 66% chance to go back to work. > > He did say that the three people who did not do well actually had a > major worsening of the symptoms. Perhaps that was uppermost in his > mind in January. > > Lynn > > > > > Is Dr. Cheney not using growth factors at all anymore, or is he > > just > > > recommending it sparingly. I have an appointment with him in July > > and as I > > > am near the end of my recovery I am hoping he will prescribe GH > and > > GFs for > > > me. If he still uses GF what form is it? > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > due to the cost, dr cheney , isnt offering it as a mainline > > treatment , > > > being more interested in finding things to help the larger masses > > that are > > > more affordable. He is truly amazing to have done so well on > > six/nine > > > patients as a first time health care provider using them . so > > who knows > > > down the road what will be there and hoping more can afford > > > it and maybe some it will help alot. somish. > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences > with each > > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any > treatment > > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2002 Report Share Posted June 5, 2002 > I am taking the mini-quick dose of .2 (not sure if it is mg.). It is > the smallest dose. > > Lynn > Hi Lynn, The lowest dose GH made is .02mg by Upjohn-Pharmacia in mini-quick form, however I started with injecting half of that amount and threw out what remained in the syringe. I then used 3/4 or 75% of that amount equal to .015mg. So not everyone starts with that amount, I remeber Carol-S on our list posting she started with .01mg also. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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