Re: Re: severe sleep disturbance/mercury detox

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In a message dated 1/17/02 7:16:50 PM Mountain Standard Time,

jaegilbert@... writes:

> - NDF (nanocolloidal detox facto

HAven't found the sources for purchase yet, but the mfr's site is

interesting; this product is 18% alcohol.

Does one take enough for that to acct for the better sleep and feeling of

calmness? :-)

Adrienne

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I think it said grain spirits. You can check the site

I THINK it was

www.bioray2000.com

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In a message dated 1/17/02 9:22:35 PM Mountain Standard Time,

jaegilbert@... writes:

> diluted in 10 oz. of water. I'm a pretty cheap date these days, but not

> *that* cheap!

>

I dunno, Judith: my homeopath forgot how sensitive I am and gave me a

similarly alcoholic preparation. One hit and I was not longer taking it for

my kidneys, but for the buzz. But I am a good girl, and only did that 3-4

times! :-)

Adrienne

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hi Adrienne -

> HAven't found the sources for purchase yet, but the mfr's site is

> interesting; this product is 18% alcohol.

> Does one take enough for that to acct for the better sleep and feeling

of

> calmness? :-)

LOL!!!! don't think so, you work up to a dosage of 6 *drops* 2x/day

diluted in 10 oz. of water. I'm a pretty cheap date these days, but not

*that* cheap!

Judith

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Does anyone know what kind of alcohol? I'm very sensitive to alcohol - am

having to use preservative free heparin as I couldn't handle the benzyl

alcohol in it. Anyone with alcohol sensitivities able to use this, or has

tried it?

Donna in NC

Re: Re: severe sleep disturbance/mercury detox

> In a message dated 1/17/02 7:16:50 PM Mountain Standard Time,

> jaegilbert@... writes:

>

> > - NDF (nanocolloidal detox facto

>

> HAven't found the sources for purchase yet, but the mfr's site is

interesting; this product is 18% alcohol.

> Does one take enough for that to acct for the better sleep and feeling of

calmness? :-)

> Adrienne

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Re: Re: severe sleep disturbance/mercury detox

> > Does one take enough for that to acct for the better sleep and feeling

of calmness? :-)

>

> LOL!!!! don't think so, you work up to a dosage of 6 *drops* 2x/day

diluted in 10 oz. of water. I'm a pretty cheap date these days, but not

*that* cheap!

>

> Judith

Judith,

Are you taking it per the patient directions on the website, i.e., no sulfur

foods, low protein, no MSM or similar supplements, no supplements around

time of dosing, etc? I don't recall exactly all the stuff from the website,

but one of the things I remember it saying was that western

medicine/pharmaceuticals may decrease its effectiveness, as it might bind

with them, or something to that effect? Did your doctor have you stop

allopathic meds, or do you not take any allopathic meds, or are you taking

them anyway? Sorry for all the questions, but I have been reading the

websites the past few days, and am very interested, but couldn't stop either

my meds or my supplements or my high protein diet at this point. I wonder if

everyone that takes it follows the protocol on the website as it is

written.

Thanks, Donna in NC

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Donna,

I do not know whether this applies in your case, but having been

tested for my CFS/ME, I have been shown to have chronic yeast metabolites in

my urine. Clearly, this test shows that I should avoid all fermented

alcoholic beverages. However, my Doctor has stated that I can consume

colourless spirits such as Vodka and Gin. Having taken Gin, it does not make

my CFS/ME any worse, and taken in moderation can help with sleep.

Do not take too much Gin or Vodka otherwise you will keeping

waking during the night needing the toilet!

If you are taking any medicine, please check that it is okay to

consume alcoholic beverages at the same time.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Andy Porter

Re: Re: severe sleep disturbance/mercury

detox

>

>

> > In a message dated 1/17/02 7:16:50 PM Mountain Standard Time,

> > jaegilbert@... writes:

> >

> > > - NDF (nanocolloidal detox facto

> >

> > HAven't found the sources for purchase yet, but the mfr's site is

> interesting; this product is 18% alcohol.

>

> > Does one take enough for that to acct for the better sleep and feeling

of

> calmness? :-)

> > Adrienne

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks , but I really was asking about alcohol in supplements or

extracts. Alcohol in any other capacity puts me on the floor in minutes, not

to mention the chronic yeast (of course, that might be why I'm on the floor

in minutes - the yeast are punch drunk happy!). Have not consumed alcohol in

years, and too scared to try anymore, alas! But just a small amount in an

ACE extract, and the regular heparin makes me spacey, so wondering if the

18% in NDF would bother me. (Awfully expensive product to find that after

one drop you can't take it due to the alcohol content)

Donna in NC

Re: Re: severe sleep disturbance/mercury detox

> Donna,

> I do not know whether this applies in your case, but having

been tested for my CFS/ME, I have been shown to have chronic yeast

metabolites in my urine. Clearly, this test shows that I should avoid all

fermented alcoholic beverages. However, my Doctor has stated that I can

consume colourless spirits such as Vodka and Gin. Having taken Gin, it does

not make my CFS/ME any worse, and taken in moderation can help with sleep.

Do not take too much Gin or Vodka otherwise you will keepingwaking

during the night needing the toilet!

If you are taking any medicine, please check that it is okay to consume

alcoholic beverages at the same time.

I hope this helps.

Regards,

Andy Porter

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hi Donna and all -

> Are you taking it per the patient directions on the website, i.e., no

sulfur

> foods, low protein, no MSM or similar supplements, no supplements

around

> time of dosing, etc?

yeah, since you have to take it on am empty stomach its not too hard to

avoid that stuff for an hour or so.

I don't recall exactly all the stuff from the website,

> but one of the things I remember it saying was that western

> medicine/pharmaceuticals may decrease its effectiveness, as it might

bind

> with them, or something to that effect? Did your doctor have you stop

> allopathic meds, or do you not take any allopathic meds, or are you

taking

> them anyway?

am taking a ton of supplements, several prescription meds and my doc

doesn't seem to have a problem with combining them.

hth,

Judith

Sorry for all the questions, but I have been reading the

> websites the past few days, and am very interested, but couldn't stop

either

> my meds or my supplements or my high protein diet at this point. I

wonder if

> everyone that takes it follows the protocol on the website as it is

> written.

> Thanks, Donna in NC

>

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