Re: Bad Sores under Tongue

[Guest guest]

i have had them and had to take valtrex or famvir (antiviral to herpes) to

get rid of them..they are very painful..my tongue got swollen and i was

slurring my words..that is how bad it got..i beleive they are herpes...do you

have swollen glands in rth eface /neck area...do you have any other

symptoms?...barbara

[Guest guest]

I had them too. Painful... But they go away on their own. I took Valtrex for

them. My MD said they are probably herpes, but they could also be something

called Bechette's (?). Know nothing about that one.

[Guest guest]

> Has anyone ever had very painful little cancre sores underneath the

tongue,

> at the base, in the form of two little swollen " eggs " ?

If they are white/clearish and haven't been there for more than two

weeks, they could be ulcers which normally will heal. Sometimes

throwing on too much mouth detergent type items doesn't help. A

dentist sometimes is better versed than a doctor at telling you what

those might be if they persist. Some pain killing canker drops

sometimes can get you through the worst days better.

[Guest guest]

My doc told me that after the first day or two that hydrogen pyroxide

acts as an irritant to an ulcer. He prescribed a dental paste that

has worked great for me -- something called TRIAMCINOLONE 0.1% that

you use twice a day.

It's good stuff.

> Has anyone ever had very painful little cancre sores underneath the

tongue,

> at the base, in the form of two little swollen " eggs " ? I had them

in other

> places as well, but have managed to get rid of those. These just

stay there.

> I *think* they could be swollen lymph nodes with a herpes on each.

Argh!

>

> Any tmt. suggestions? I've been swishing for 20 mins. at a time

with warm

> salt water w/ hydrogen peroxide for a few days now. Also taking

lots of

> lysine caps. And now just got an Rx for Peridex, but that's for

bacterial

> infections I think.

>

> Thanks,

> Lynea

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/31/2001 11:46:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Barbara

of writes:

<< have had them and had to take valtrex or famvir (antiviral to herpes) to

get rid of them..they are very painful..my tongue got swollen and i was

slurring my words..that is how bad it got..i beleive they are herpes...do

you

have swollen glands in rth eface /neck area...do you have any other

symptoms?...barbara>>

Hi Barbara,

Thanks for the info. I copied down the two antivirals you mentioned. Do yout

think oral acyclovir work, too? I have tried it before, when I was getting

bad genital herpes attacks, and it made me feel nauseous. My right lymph at

my throat is a little swollen, and I am running a low fever. I think the two

red " eggs " could be the " sublingual salivary glands " themselves. I'm going to

get to a dentist today if I have to wait for hours as a walk-in. Yes, it's

hard to eat, hard to talk--and it/they hurt like the dickens. I'm swishing

with Peridex, but it's an antibacterial as far as I can tell

Lynea

[Guest guest]

i think you can try the oral acyclovir ..i bekeive it is the first

generation of anti-virals for herpes. the problem with these antivirals is

that we develop a tolerance for them and they no longer work fr us after

awhile. Famvir or valtrex is then used ...that is how my md dealt with my

repeated outbreaks..

1-acyclovir..2...famvir and at present valtrex which i find to be the best

one however it is hard on the stomach for some. hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

Lynea,

I recently had an attack of herpes in my throat and it was the most painful

thing I ever had I ever had (second only to a twisted cyst on my ovary). The

only thing that helped for a few hours at a time was gargling with a

novocaine containing mouthwash and also taking a strong painkiller which

included codeine. The pain was so bad it merely blunted it but still it was

worth it!

Good luck

Nelly

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/1/01 11:30:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

I use the herb lemon balm and the amino acid l-Lysine to deal with herpes

issues quite successfully.

<<

Message: 14

Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:14:28 EDT

From:

Subject: Re: Bad Sores Under Tongue

In a message dated 7/31/2001 11:46:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Barbara

of writes:

<< have had them and had to take valtrex or famvir (antiviral to herpes) to

get rid of them..they are very painful..my tongue got swollen and i was

slurring my words..that is how bad it got..i beleive they are herpes...do

you

have swollen glands in rth eface /neck area...do you have any other

symptoms?...barbara>>

Hi Barbara,

Thanks for the info. I copied down the two antivirals you mentioned. Do yout

think oral acyclovir work, too? I have tried it before, when I was getting

bad genital herpes attacks, and it made me feel nauseous. My right lymph at

my throat is a little swollen, and I am running a low fever. I think the two

red " eggs " could be the " sublingual salivary glands " themselves. I'm going

to

get to a dentist today if I have to wait for hours as a walk-in. Yes, it's

hard to eat, hard to talk--and it/they hurt like the dickens. I'm swishing

with Peridex, but it's an antibacterial as far as I can tell

Lynea

>>

[Guest guest]

I have had big, bad sores near the base of my tongue so painful I didn't

want to swallow my own saliva. All my doctor gave me at the time was an oral

anaesthetic to swish around in my mouth. Terrible chemical taste, but I used

it several times because it did help temporarily to numb the pain. Sorry, I

don't have the bottle here with me at present (it's back in Edmonton but I'm

living temporarily in Calgary) or I'd tell you what it was called. Sure

wished we could have identified the problem properly and treated it in a

more fundamental way, not simply with symptom masking.

C

[Guest guest]

I want to second the suggestion about L-lysine, if these sores are

in fact due to herpes simplex types 1 or 2. Taking some lysine

when you are eating other foods, and avoiding major sources of

arginine such as chocolate and nuts, should put the herpes simplex

viruses back into latency and give you some relief. There's a

discussion of this plus some references in the new PDR of Nutritional

Supplement, edited by Sheldon Hendler and Rorvik.

Rich

> Has anyone ever had very painful little cancre sores underneath the

tongue,

> at the base, in the form of two little swollen " eggs " ? I had them in

other

> places as well, but have managed to get rid of those. These just

stay there.

> I *think* they could be swollen lymph nodes with a herpes on each.

Argh!

>

> Any tmt. suggestions? I've been swishing for 20 mins. at a time with

warm

> salt water w/ hydrogen peroxide for a few days now. Also taking lots

of

> lysine caps. And now just got an Rx for Peridex, but that's for

bacterial

> infections I think.

>

> Thanks,

> Lynea

[Guest guest]

I don't have mouth sores myself but my husband has suffered with them for

years. They get really bad when he is under stress. I began taking

undenatured whey for my fibromyalgia and I wanted company so I started my

husband and sons on it as well. My husband is a real sceptic, doesn't

believe in any of the " cures " as he calls them but since he started the

whey, his mouth sores have all but disappeared. They still appear but never

develop into the five or six huge sores he used to get where he couldn't eat

from the pain. He still hasn't quite admitted that it was the whey but he

hasn't changed anything else about his routine and normally in two months he

would have had a least two major episodes lasting about week. It would

certainly be worth a try to see if it helps. He is taking immunepro.

Eileen B.

Re: Bad Sores under Tongue

I have had big, bad sores near the base of my tongue so painful I didn't

want to swallow my own saliva. All my doctor gave me at the time was an

oral

anaesthetic to swish around in my mouth. Terrible chemical taste, but I

used

it several times because it did help temporarily to numb the pain. Sorry,

I

don't have the bottle here with me at present (it's back in Edmonton but

I'm

living temporarily in Calgary) or I'd tell you what it was called. Sure

wished we could have identified the problem properly and treated it in a

more fundamental way, not simply with symptom masking.

C

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