Re: Lomatium Dissectum/vehicle for cheap supplements-a(long)

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Sorry, I didn't post before. I took some time trying to find one of

the on-line supplement companies that sold the brands I found that

had lomatium only liquid extracts(Gaia Herbs brand)in 1 oz.

sizes, called " Lomatium Supreme " , and another company(Eclectic

Institute) that sells a combo liquid extract, " Lomatium-Osha " , which

has Lomatium-Ligusticum-Wildcrafted, fresh Osha, Ligustiicum porteri,

root; Licorice, Glycyrrhiza glabra, root; C.O.(certified organic)

fresh Yarrow, Achillea millefolium, flower and leaf; C.O. Lemon balm,

officianalis, leaf. This one has licorice root in it, so

usually not a good idea to take for long periods. Whether short or

long-term use, rule of thumb unless advised otherwise, is take herbs

for 6 days, then off 1 day(so herb continues to be effective and body

doesn't get too accustomed to it) or some herbs can take for a couple

of weeks straight and then be off it for 2-3 weeks. Especially

important to " pulse " herbal extracts if going to be taking it for

some time and/or if taking to help reduce chronic infections.

Eclectic Institute has great quality products, almost all either

wildcrafted or certified organic, even their alcohol extracts are

made with certified organic grape alcohol(which means

they don't have any of the agricultural

chemicals/pesticides/herbicides in " grain alcohol " ; no genetically

modified corn that's often used to make " grain alcohol " used in

herbal tinctures/extracts; many people are " allergic " to corn, even

though after refining process there's very little left of corn in

alcohol, it can still cause allergic reactions in people).

Eclectic also have a much more concentrated product, called " LOMATIUM

ISOLATE " , that don't think is listed on their website or my price

list, but I ordered in the past since it's supposed to help viral

infections more effectively in this highly concentrated form. Was

expensive, but just took like 10-20 drops a day, if I remember

correctly. Haven't bought it for awhile, but if you're interested in

possibly trying it, I could call them and ask them if they sell this

product to retail customers or you can get their retail contact

number off their website and call them yourself. Just say a friend of

yours that has CFIDS had used this particular product for

viral/herpes infections and you wanted info. on it and if they sell

it retail. Let person know you have CFIDS and are knowledgeable about

supplements and herbs so that you understand how to use product.

Maybe that would give you better possibility of being able to buy it

retail if it's available.

I think the reason they don't list it on website or my price list, is

because it's very concentrated and feel that it's best to have a

health care professional dispense it and follow person taking it. I

didn't have any unusual side effects while taking it, but it did seem

to help reduce infections. It is very concentrated, though, so if you

did use it, I'd start out at lower than recommended dose, and if no

serious herx, then you could work your way up to recommended dose

in a week or so. I'll post(if they still sell it to me), their

recommended dose for acute infections/CFIDS, which I believe was

somewhat larger dose than on bottle/or as noted below.

My sense of it at the time I talked with them about this product and

ordered it for myself, was that mostly health professionals ordered

this because it was so concentrated, but at the time, they allowed me

to order it even though I was a " health food store. " It helped me

when I had acute flare-ups more than just the regular lomatium

extract, since stonger/more concentrated.

I'll post the info. to the group after

I call them within the next 2-3 works days, if they still stock this

product, if they'll sell it to retail customers, price and contact #

or you can call them yourself for info. via the toll free retail

number listed on website.

OOPSS! I still have some of the last bottle, it's

called " Lomatium Isolate " (I got the GLYCERITE/NON-ALCOHOL form, but

they also had it in alcohol form). The small amber glass bottle is

around 15-20 mls or " 2 drams " (sorry I don't know exact equivalent in

mls.). Directions say take 5-10 drops, 2 times daily, but if I

recall, for serious/acute infection, they told me to take larger

number of drops, maybe 3 times daily. I've kept it refrigerated

wrapped in their cotton quilted protective material to keep light out

(in dark amber glass bottle)to keep it potent.

So, I always buy Eclectic Institute if I want a chemical free, high

quality product for a reasonable price(they also have many glycerite

(vegetable glycerin)extracts, that have little or none even of the

organic grain alcohol they have to use to extract alot of the herbs

originally; fresh, freeze dried whole herbs/extracts in capsule or

gel forms. I'm able to buy their products wholesale, so it's cheaper

for me(I have a VERY small nutrition home-based 'business' with just

a handful of customers, mostly to save money by being able to buy my

supplements at wholesale, but have to make a small profit so IRS

doesn't come after me). So, I order products for a handful of

customers, mostly sick folks to help them get suppl. cheaper or

someone in my church who's gotten sick or needs to get on better

quality supplements to improve their health. PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I'M

NOT ADVERTIZING/TRYING TO SELL YOU ANYTHING, DON'T HAVE ENERGY TO

HELP ALOT OF PEOPLE DUE TO HEALTH, UNFORTUNATELY, JUST ENOUGH TO

KEEP " BUSINESS " ON THE UP AND UP. JUST THROWING OUT A COST SAVING

VEHICLE THAT OTHERS COULD CHOOSE TO SET UP FOR THEMSELVES TO SAVE

MONEY ON THEIR SUPPLEMENTS. SEE MY NEXT POST ON " NUTRITION BUSINESS

INFO. " IF INTERESTED IN HOW TO DO THIS FOR YOURSELF. THIS HAS SAVED

ME ABOUT 50% OFF RETAIL ON MOST PRODUCTS, SO IT'S HELPED US

FINANCIALLY ALOT AND CAN ORDER WHAT/WHEN YOU WANT.

So, a, hope this helps you, if you can't get Lomatium Isolate

from Eclectic, my second choice would be finding a place on-line

(discounted vitamin sites)or health food store that carries Gaia

Herbal Liquid Extracts=their " Lomatium Supreme " liquid herbal ext.

If I find a place on-line that carries Gaia, I'll post, haven't seen

one yet, but maybe someone in group knows of an on-line supplement

company that carries Gaia Herbal Extracts. More effective in liquid

herbal extract form than in dry herb capsules generally.

Good luck. Let us know what you come up with and I'll post any

additional info. about Eclectic product or if find Gaia Herbs on-line.

K.

> > Did anyone ever find out where to buy this Lomatium Dissectum

that

> > Konlee speaks of? I can find no info online about it. a

> I sent this post some time ago and got no response. So, I will try

> again. Lomatium Dissectum is supposed to be an antiviral and

> immunmodulator I believe. Mark Konlee writs about it in his book

> Restoring Immune Function. Anyone have ay info on it? a