Re: Licorice - Baschetti-Adrenal insufficiency-HPA

June 9, 2001

Hi, and all!

What does Dr. Baschetti recommend you use with the Licorice extract

if you are allergic to milk and also have to stay away from dairy

because of chronic sinus/upper respiratory problems? I am also on low

dose hydrocortisone. Adrenal deficiency runs in my family, but I am

trying to research alternatives to strengthening my adrenals to see

if they will respond and produce more cortisol/DHEA on their own so

I can continue to decrease the amount of hydrocortisone. But, very

allergic to milk and react very hypoglycemically to the milk sugar as

well, so interested in what alternative medium he uses for the

licorice ext. besides milk that is effective.

Via Cheney bike testing, when physically stressed, your body

temp./amount of cortisol your body produces should go up a certain

amount to be normal. Most CFIDS folks will have a " blunted " response,

just go up a small amount, rather than the higher normal amount. My

response was so abnormal, that my body temp. went down and my

cortisol went, not just up a little or flat, but went down

significantly-so my bodies/HPA response to stress is VERY ABNORMAL.

Do others have this type of abnormal response to stress? I mostly

hear about that cortisol is supposed to be too high in most CFIDS

cases. I seem to be in the minority. Wondered if there were others

out there and what treatments they had found useful, if any, to help

this problem, other than low dose hydrocortisone.

Until the wonderful researchers and brave patients find new ways to

rehabilitate our hypothalamus/brain and the abnormal endocrine

responses connected to the brain/endocrine injury, I have to try to

boost my body's ability to produce cortisol and DHEA-but cortisol esp.

PLEASE RESPOND IF YOU HAVE DEALT WITH ADRENAL INSUFFICIENCY-LOW

CORTISOL AND/OR LOW DHEA. MOST INTERESTED IN TX. FOR THE LOW CORTISOL,

SINCE LOW DHEA IS SOMEWHAT EASIER TO TREAT WITHOUT AS NEGATIVE SIDE

EFFECTS AS HYDROCORTISONE CAN HAVE. NOT JUST MILD INSUFFICIENCY, BUT

MODERATE TO SEVERE IS WHAT I'M MORE INTERESTED IN. ALL INPUT IS

APPRECIATED VERY MUCH!

Better health to all of you!

K.

> It's the sodium in the milk.

>

> http://www.primenet.com/~camilla/licorice.html

> " Dr. Baschetti's protocol uses relatively low doses of licorice,

which is more in keeping with traditional herbalism than the D'Adamo

protocol. Unlike D'Adamo, he does not tell people to stop taking it

after a given period of time. He recommends 2 grams of licorice

extract in milk once per day. He regards the milk as quite important,

because it is high in sodium and theorizes that less licorice will be

needed to raise blood pressure. In some of his patients, he also

supplements the licorice with low dose (about 20 mg.) hydrocortisone.

(not all that different from flor/cort in s) "

>

> Bzzz...

>

> From: " pmm " <berry@a...>

>

> Does anybody know why it is recommended that the powdered licorice

be taken

> in milk? Is it the protein, fat, or what ? Why not just dissolved

in water?

> I just rec'd my licorice from the seaquake folks and they even

suggest rice

> or soy milk, if necessary but say cow's milk is best.

> Thanks for any info "

> M-

>

June 9, 2001

Hello K,

Two approaches to the adrenal deal. Dr. Poesnecker believes the

adrenals can be supported and brought back to reasonable

functioning. If you haven't looked at his website it may be useful

to you...www.chronicfatigue.org My wife has benefitted from

this approach a great deal, but she is not fully well, so our quest

goes on. We are in the midst of amalgam removal, suspecting mercury

could be interfering with the HPA axis. Big " could " , but we feel it

is a good idea not to amalgams in the mouth regardless if it is

immediately beneficial. Detox takes a good while too. Nothing is

terribly fast with these syndromes.

You will also want to read Steve's/Carol's postings about the

cheney protocol about growth factors. They are using a full regimen

of Natcell products. You may want to simply try the Natcell Adrenal

product for full adrenal support. There are other practitioners that

have used this product in treating CFS with the element of adrenal

insufficieny with some success. We have not taken the dive as of

yet, but are interested. We will wait until after the amalgams are

removed and detox is much underway.

Mark and

> > It's the sodium in the milk.

> >

> > http://www.primenet.com/~camilla/licorice.html

> > " Dr. Baschetti's protocol uses relatively low doses of licorice,

> which is more in keeping with traditional herbalism than the

D'Adamo

> protocol. Unlike D'Adamo, he does not tell people to stop taking it

> after a given period of time. He recommends 2 grams of licorice

> extract in milk once per day. He regards the milk as quite

important,

> because it is high in sodium and theorizes that less licorice will

be

> needed to raise blood pressure. In some of his patients, he also

> supplements the licorice with low dose (about 20 mg.)

hydrocortisone.

> (not all that different from flor/cort in s) "

> >

> > Bzzz...

> >

> > From: " pmm " <berry@a...>

> >

> > Does anybody know why it is recommended that the powdered

licorice

> be taken

> > in milk? Is it the protein, fat, or what ? Why not just dissolved

> in water?

> > I just rec'd my licorice from the seaquake folks and they even

> suggest rice

> > or soy milk, if necessary but say cow's milk is best.

> > Thanks for any info "

> > M-

> >

June 9, 2001

Although I have never had any western medicine tests done on my adrenals, my

kinesiologist has told me that they are low functioning. He recommended a

natural supplement called " Adrenogen " that has helped me a lot. I get it

through metagenics (nutrition dynamics) 1 800 444 9998. It's item #M803 and

comes in two different sizes 90 tabs for 13.49 and 270 tabs for 35.48. I take

2-4 tablets/day. Makes a big difference for me. I can tell when I go off of

them.

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