Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 I took armour. Yes it was as effective for me as synthroid. I was told by my doctor that it does not leach calcium from you system like synthroid can over time and that it is much more gentle to the body - not so much of a shock to the system. There is a direct correlation (which of course I don't remember) between the doses of synthroid and armour. You should be able to get this information from your local pharmacist or doctor. I am no longer on either armour or synthroid. My kinesiologist put me on " T-100 " a natural supplement that actually supports your thyroid and gets it functioning again. It's working for me and I feel much better than when I was taking armour or synthroid. I think because your thyroid does more than just produce T4. By supporting the thyroid with T-100, the thyroid is able to do it's other jobs as well. I've noticed things like better sleep, less depression (both things that low thyroid function can effect). Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse Has anyone tried taking Armour thyroid medication? If so, what dosage, and did it help at all? Also, is anyone here familiar with Dr. Dommisse in Tucson? Laurel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 Laurel, Could you please tell me more about the T-100 Natural Thyroid supplement? What it is & where to get it? How much you take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 Where do you get the T100? > I took armour. Yes it was as effective for me as synthroid. I was told by my doctor that it does not leach calcium from you system like synthroid can over time and that it is much more gentle to the body - not so much of a shock to the system. There is a direct correlation (which of course I don't remember) between the doses of synthroid and armour. You should be able to get this information from your local pharmacist or doctor. > I am no longer on either armour or synthroid. My kinesiologist put me on " T-100 " a natural supplement that actually supports your thyroid and gets it functioning again. It's working for me and I feel much better than when I was taking armour or synthroid. I think because your thyroid does more than just produce T4. By supporting the thyroid with T-100, the thyroid is able to do it's other jobs as well. I've noticed things like better sleep, less depression (both things that low thyroid function can effect). > Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse > > > Has anyone tried taking Armour thyroid medication? If so, what dosage, and > did it help at all? > > Also, is anyone here familiar with Dr. Dommisse in Tucson? > Laurel > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 Through metagenics (Nutrition Dynamics) 1 800 444 9998. My TSH and T4 levels have normalized on this. You take 1-2 in the morning. Probably best to start on 1. I haven't had my levels drawn in awhile because I can tell when I start feeling hypothyriod - start feeling cold, more sluggish, more tired. Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse > > > Has anyone tried taking Armour thyroid medication? If so, what dosage, and > did it help at all? > > Also, is anyone here familiar with Dr. Dommisse in Tucson? > Laurel > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Laurel I take 90mg armour thyroid for secondary hypothyroidism (ie. pituitary issues) I started with 30mg years ago, was up to 120mg, now down to 90mg. I have my TSH, free T3 and T4 checked at least once a year, sometimes more often if symptoms change. I once went off armour for a week last year and was soo cold that I couldn't get out of bed. Take care, (WA) > Has anyone tried taking Armour thyroid medication? If so, what dosage, and > did it help at all? > > Also, is anyone here familiar with Dr. Dommisse in Tucson? > Laurel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 Thanks for the info Tania & on the T100 natural thyroid booster. I am going to try it & get off the synthroid & Levoxyl I have been on for years. I hope it works. I am tired of being so tired & sleepy all the time & the weight gain. Maybe it will make a difference & be better for me in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 I sure hope so. Good luck. Let me know if you have any troubles ordering it. My memory is not so good, but they may have told me that only medical professionals can actually order the stuff - could be wrong. That was not a problem for me as I am an RN. One way or another you'll be able to get the stuff. Re: Re: Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse Thanks for the info Tania & on the T100 natural thyroid booster. I am going to try it & get off the synthroid & Levoxyl I have been on for years. I hope it works. I am tired of being so tired & sleepy all the time & the weight gain. Maybe it will make a difference & be better for me in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 > Has anyone tried taking Armour thyroid medication? If so, what dosage, and > did it help at all? > Yes I take it...er the lowest dosage pill twice a day. It has normalized my T3 level which was low, and seems to have raised my body temperature to a more normal level. Unfortunately, I don't actually feel any different... tansy -- _______________________________________________ Make PC-to-Phone calls with Net2Phone. Sign-up today at: http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Has anyone tried taking Armour thyroid medication? If so, what dosage, and did it help at all? I was taking Armour thyroid, but my doctor switched me to a different brand, but said it is the same thing, but he thinks it is a better product. I now take Bio-Throid by Bio Tech. I take 1 grain twice a day. The Armour brought my " levels " back into a better range, but I can't say that I feel any differently. Haven't tested on the new product, but since I didn't notice any change when I switched, I have not bothered to recheck. Donna in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2001 Report Share Posted June 12, 2001 I also took armour before I started taking T100. There is a direct correlation of doses between synthroid and armour. Your local pharmacist probably could tell you how much armour to take in relation to the amount of synthroid you may already be taking. You may also want to look into T-100. It supports your thyroid to function normally. It has normalized my TSH and T4 levels and decreased symptoms of SAD and poor sleep dramatically - just as my chiropractor said it would. Good luck. Tania Re: Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse > Has anyone tried taking Armour thyroid medication? If so, what dosage, and > did it help at all? > Yes I take it...er the lowest dosage pill twice a day. It has normalized my T3 level which was low, and seems to have raised my body temperature to a more normal level. Unfortunately, I don't actually feel any different... tansy -- _______________________________________________ Make PC-to-Phone calls with Net2Phone. Sign-up today at: http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Hi Tania! With respect to the thyroid, I just wanted to mention that my ND told me that because I have been taking Synthroid for so long, I would not be able to switch to alternatives for my thyroid and that I would have to be on Synthroid for the rest of my life. I think you were wise to go the alternative route at the beginning of your illness. Kind regards, Trudy Message: 19 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:11:27 -0500 From: " Tania & " <fe38@...> Subject: Re: Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse I also took armour before I started taking T100. There is a direct correlation of doses between synthroid and armour. Your local pharmacist probably could tell you how much armour to take in relation to the amount of synthroid you may already be taking. You may also want to look into T-100. It supports your thyroid to function normally. It has normalized my TSH and T4 levels and decreased symptoms of SAD and poor sleep dramatically - just as my chiropractor said it would. Good luck. Tania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Trudy, I'm don't know how long you've been on synthroid. I'm guessing for longer than I was before I switched over, but I just wanted you to know just in case, that I was on synthroid for 1-2 years before I started taking armour. Re: Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse I also took armour before I started taking T100. There is a direct correlation of doses between synthroid and armour. Your local pharmacist probably could tell you how much armour to take in relation to the amount of synthroid you may already be taking. You may also want to look into T-100. It supports your thyroid to function normally. It has normalized my TSH and T4 levels and decreased symptoms of SAD and poor sleep dramatically - just as my chiropractor said it would. Good luck. Tania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2001 Report Share Posted June 14, 2001 Hi Tania! That is so interesting that you had been on Synthroid for 1-2 years previously. I have been on Synthroid for about 7 years now. ...hmmm, I'm wondering if I saw a different ND, if they would have a different " opinion. " (This was actually the second ND who told me that I would have to remain on Synthroid for the rest of my life.) Anyway, if I ever see a new ND (...pretty happy with this one, right now), I will make further inquiry on this. Kind regards, Trudy Message: 9 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:33:19 -0500 From: " Tania & " <fe38@...> Subject: Re: Re: Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse Trudy, I'm don't know how long you've been on synthroid. I'm guessing for longer than I was before I switched over, but I just wanted you to know just in case, that I was on synthroid for 1-2 years before I started taking armour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2001 Report Share Posted June 15, 2001 Trudy, Maybe pharmacists would know something about this. They're usually eager to answer questions. Maybe you could call around and see if anyone knows anything. Re: Re: Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse Trudy, I'm don't know how long you've been on synthroid. I'm guessing for longer than I was before I switched over, but I just wanted you to know just in case, that I was on synthroid for 1-2 years before I started taking armour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 Hi Tania! ....great suggestion! I have great pharmacists and I will talk to them about this on the weekend. I was wondering, Tania, did you ever have your thyroid tested through blood work? If so, was your thyroid reading clinical or sub clinical? I know that mine was clinical. I had tried T3 (Cytomel) previously; however, it made no difference for me. Also, when you go to your chiropractor is it for physical adjustments? I had been to one previously, but he said that I did not need any chiropractor treatment. ...I really don't think I do either. I do have an excellent (...and I do mean excellent) optometrist. (Previously, I had some type of a herpes infection in my eye. Apparently, it was on the periphery of the eye. I asked him what I should do about it. Because of all my problems with allopathic doctors, I really did not want to have to go that route; however, I sure didn't want to go blind either. He told me to take some garlic. So for several weeks I was eating garlic till the smell was coming through my skin! ...yes, I was stinky! ;-) LOL Anyway, at my last checkup it had completely cleared up the infection without any scarring.) He has often recommended that I see his brother who is a chiropractor. I know that in asking around to different people who have seen his brother that this brother also has an excellent reputation. ...maybe I should investigate this further. My optometrist always asks me if I have seen his brother, yet. ...then at least next time I see my optometrist I can report that I have seen his brother! ;-) Thanks, Tania--and to all others who continue to post posts on alternative treatments. I really appreciate your sharing your knowledge and experiences with the group. Kind regards, Trudy Message: 9 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:24:56 -0500 From: " Tania & " <fe38@...> Subject: Re: Re: Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse Trudy, Maybe pharmacists would know something about this. They're usually eager to answer questions. Maybe you could call around and see if anyone knows anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 Hi Trudy, Initially my levels showed up subclinical (hypothyroidism). Now when I get them checked, they actually show HYPERthyroidism. I asked my chiropractor about this and he said that it is just the blood tests picking up the T-100 in my blood, and not actual thyroid function. This makes it a little tricky to adjust doses, but I'm really pretty good at knowing what my body needs (as far as T-100 is concerned) according to how I'm feeling. My chiropractor does do some adjustments. However, his focus for me is kinesiology. He tested me for allergies this way. I feel MUCH better after I began avoiding the foods that he said my body did not like. He also tests me for the supplements that my body wants or doesn't want. I trust him completely. He is not just out to sell supplements. He told me how I could bypass the clinic he is working for as far as buying the supplements so that I can get them wholesale. (I'm able to do this because I work in healthcare). Re: Re: Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse Trudy, Maybe pharmacists would know something about this. They're usually eager to answer questions. Maybe you could call around and see if anyone knows anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2001 Report Share Posted June 17, 2001 Hi Tania! ....okay, I talked to my local pharmacist today and she thought that there should be no problem if I was wanting to switch from Synthroid to Armour. And in checking this out, I found out that the price of the two medications would be comparable. The only kicker is that you would still require a doctor's prescription for Armour. And there don't seem to be many doctors in this area who are alternatively inclined. (I think there may be one, but have have heard repeated reports from so many people that he allegedly has the bedside manner of a scorpion. Because of all of the abuse that I have already experienced at the hands of various doctors, I am simply not prepared to knowingly place myself in such a vulnerable position.) So, it looks like I will have to stick with the Synthroid. When my two NDs told me that I would have to be on Synthroid for the rest of my life, I take it then that that would also include Armour, if I was to switch to that. (I have an appointment next month with my ND, so I will have that confirmed.) I know that the previous ND put me on T100 when I told him how one allopathic doctor told me that, after taking a few blood tests, my TSH was all over the place. When I told the fellow who was supposed to be monitoring my endocrine system, he told me that he only tested once a year. (...can you imagine?) Anyway, after telling my ND all of this he had me test my thyroid by taking my temperature under my arm pit. (I can't remember if I did that for a few weeks or a month.) At any rate, the next time I saw my ND, he told me that while my temperature was a little on the low side, it was still better than most in the general population. That was when he had me add the T100 to try to help stabilize it. It must have helped, because I haven't heard any allopathic doctor mention anything about my thyroid of lately. I am no longer taking the T100s, but if I have any more problems I will add them again. After hearing your experiences with the chiropractor, Tania, I think that on Monday I will try phoning my optometrist's brother. Kind regards, Trudy Message: 8 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:19:06 -0500 From: " Tania & " <fe38@...> Subject: Re: Re: Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse Hi Trudy, Initially my levels showed up subclinical (hypothyroidism). Now when I get them checked, they actually show HYPERthyroidism. I asked my chiropractor about this and he said that it is just the blood tests picking up the T-100 in my blood, and not actual thyroid function. This makes it a little tricky to adjust doses, but I'm really pretty good at knowing what my body needs (as far as T-100 is concerned) according to how I'm feeling. My chiropractor does do some adjustments. However, his focus for me is kinesiology. He tested me for allergies this way. I feel MUCH better after I began avoiding the foods that he said my body did not like. He also tests me for the supplements that my body wants or doesn't want. I trust him completely. He is not just out to sell supplements. He told me how I could bypass the clinic he is working for as far as buying the supplements so that I can get them wholesale. (I'm able to do this because I work in healthcare). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2001 Report Share Posted June 17, 2001 Trudy, Thanks for such a nice reply. It could be possible that you may not need armour OR synthroid if you took T100 long enough. My chiropractor was able to wean me off of armour (at that point I had been taking synthroid or armour for approx 3 years) by adding the T100 and gradually weaning off the armour - because the T100 supports the thyroid to make it's own T4 (which is what armour and synthroid basically are). Not everyone is able to do this however, and you need to be really in -tune to your body. Your lab values at this time are basically worthless because the values pick up the T100, and are not necessarily measuring the amount of T4 that your thyriod is actually producing. Basically, I knew that I was getting too much armour (when I was taking the T100) when my heart rate increased, and I felt anxious/agitated, and too little armour or T100 when I felt cold and/or more sluggish. I'm so frustrated for you that you can't find a doc that will write a prescription for armour. Do your ND's know about T100? Maybe they are the ones that got it for you in the first place. If they don't know about it, they could be wrong about having to be on synthroid for the rest of your life. I don't know though, I'm no expert. Re: Re: Armour Thyroid/ Dr. Dommisse Hi Trudy, Initially my levels showed up subclinical (hypothyroidism). Now when I get them checked, they actually show HYPERthyroidism. I asked my chiropractor about this and he said that it is just the blood tests picking up the T-100 in my blood, and not actual thyroid function. This makes it a little tricky to adjust doses, but I'm really pretty good at knowing what my body needs (as far as T-100 is concerned) according to how I'm feeling. My chiropractor does do some adjustments. However, his focus for me is kinesiology. He tested me for allergies this way. I feel MUCH better after I began avoiding the foods that he said my body did not like. He also tests me for the supplements that my body wants or doesn't want. I trust him completely. He is not just out to sell supplements. He told me how I could bypass the clinic he is working for as far as buying the supplements so that I can get them wholesale. (I'm able to do this because I work in healthcare). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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