MARY JO/STEVE B./OTHERS-Immunocal easier on gut??

[Guest guest]

Sorry if I'm behind the curve. I'm a little confused. Aren't both

Immunocal and Immunepro made from undenatured whey? So, if you're

sensitive/allergic to milk, don't get why both wouldn't bother you.

I think(correct me if wrong)that Steve B. wrote in earlier post that

Immunepro really bothered his

gut, so I think he switched to Immunocal and it didn't. Is Immunocal

just a different product and for some strange reason it doesn't bother

some people's gut as much or is there some reason that we know of?

Because it isn't as strong as Immunepro? or doesn't have lactoferrin?

Any input? I'm allergic to milk and have gut problems, but thought

that generally Immunepro was thought to be more effective by Cheney

and many of those in the original study he did with some of his

patients.

Anyone have website for Immunocal where it goes into detail about

ingredients, how it's processed, etc?

I will go back and research

past posts on Immunocal and if I find the $40 source, I'll re-post

for person who was asking where to get it, I need to understand

the 2 products better.

I have immunepro website.

Thanks alot!

K.

> > > > Tim,

> > > >

> > > > To save yourself a lot of $ and improve your condition

> faster, take

> > > 4 a day

> > > > for 30 days if you can tolerate it, then drop down to

> maintenance

> > > dose of 2

> > > > a day. This will get your functional glut. levels to

normal

> in a

> > > months vs.

> > > > the 6 months it takes when you do 2 a day initially. Steve

B.

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: <just_tim_ca@y...>

> > > > <@y...>

> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 2:14 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This list is intended for patients to share personal

> experiences with

> > each

> > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in

any

> treatment

> > discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi K,

I wish I understood the products more too. All Cheney said was that

ImmunePro has lactopheron(sp?) and Immunocal does not so evidently it

works for lactose intolerant people.

Since the last post I found Immunocal's website:

http://www.immunotec.com/usa/index2.asp

Also the Dallas FortWorth support Group has excellent articles that

are well worth reading . . . and worth taking to your doctor. I

think the one on undenatured whey is in the newsletters area of the

website as most of the articles are.

http://www.virtualhometown.com/dfwcfids/

Hope this helps - sorry for the spelling errors. Good spelling is

something I lost when CFIDS came along.

Jo

> > > > > Tim,

> > > > >

> > > > > To save yourself a lot of $ and improve your condition

> > faster, take

> > > > 4 a day

> > > > > for 30 days if you can tolerate it, then drop down to

> > maintenance

> > > > dose of 2

> > > > > a day. This will get your functional glut. levels to

> normal

> > in a

> > > > months vs.

> > > > > the 6 months it takes when you do 2 a day initially.

Steve

> B.

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > From: <just_tim_ca@y...>

> > > > > <@y...>

> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 2:14 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal

> > experiences with

> > > each

> > > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in

> any

> > treatment

> > > discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I think(correct me if wrong)that Steve B. wrote in earlier post that

Immunepro really bothered his gut, so I think he switched to Immunocal and

it didn't.

I believe Steve switched to Immuplus, not Immunocal. At least that's what he

told me many months ago. Immunepro in some respects is supposed to be

stronger (possibly read as a stronger detoxifier?) than Immunocal/Immuplus,

which reportedly is why some people don't tolerate it. I do know that the

scoop provided in the Immunepro container is now half the size of the

original scoop when it first came out. Dr. Cheney still feels the " science "

lies behind Immunocal, but whichever one a PWC is able to tolerate, ought to

be ok.

Donna in NC

(who used to tolerate both with no trouble until starting Cheney's immune

modulation program, and now tolerates neither very well)

[Guest guest]

Immunepro was originally thought to be stronger, but now is thought to be

'different' and some people to better on it and some do worse. Also there

is another big difference in terms of the gut. Immunepro has lactoferrin

(as does LEF's version). My husband can't take lactoferrin or he gets

diarrhea. But Imuplus and Immunepro do not have lactoferrin added.

Cindi

" Donna Pruitt " <donnap@...>

06/04/01 05:15 PM

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Subject: Re: Re: MARY JO/STEVE

B./OTHERS-Immunocal easier on

gut??

I believe Steve switched to Immuplus, not Immunocal. At least that's what

he

told me many months ago. Immunepro in some respects is supposed to be

stronger (possibly read as a stronger detoxifier?) than

Immunocal/Immuplus,

which reportedly is why some people don't tolerate it. I do know that the

scoop provided in the Immunepro container is now half the size of the

original scoop when it first came out. Dr. Cheney still feels the

" science "

lies behind Immunocal, but whichever one a PWC is able to tolerate, ought

to

be ok.