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This is from another list I'm on and may be of interest.

Phil

Message: 11

Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 14:14:21 -0800

From: " Donna " <ruthful@...>

Subject: Re: ActiZyme vs Wobenzym N?

I LOVE that information. Thank you so much for posting that. What if a

person has too much fibrenogen? I know a man who has that problem.

Donna

---Subject: Re: [oxyplus] ActiZyme vs Wobenzym N?

Thanks .

This is not even in the same class as WB. Wobenzyme N (the weak US

form

of what is used in Europe...) is a pig pancreas extract mixed with

other

plant enzymes, that function at only about 50% in humans (if it

activates) because their optimal functional activity pH range is

7.8-8.3

which is above our blood and tissue range of 7.3-7.4. I've worked

for

Enzyme companies over the years and have formulated several

products,

and I know the manufacturer of Wobenzyme, 's Enzymes, etc. They

do

have some benefit but newer technology offers better

options.....Pancreatic glandular extracts like that which contain

a-chymotrypsin, trypsin, etc. require huge amounts and I dislike

using

them now since we also risk contaminants (BSE,viruses, etc.) from

commodity quality pancreases that not even the pharmaceutical

manufacturers guarantee as 100% pure...also, since there are

different

standards for USP drug a-chymotrypsin (injectible) than for

glandular

grade, which is what these all are...made for oral use...

You need to read my website page...it has some of this also...

http://www.arrowheadhealthworks.com/actizyme.htm

ActiZyme is an enzyme product that specifically activates endogenous

fibrinogen, our own body's enzyme which is floating around in an

inactive state... which dissolves fibrin which is involved in clot

making and immune-complexes, which are inflammatory...where ever

there

is inflammation and allergies or immune problems, there are immune

complexes (part of the complement pathway)...

ActiZyme is different this way:

It is an enzyme trigger to the body's metabolic enzymes to activate

and

go to work whereas Wobenzyme or any other proteolytic enzyme, even

fungal or plant based ones, DO NOT TRIGGER THE BODY'S OWN METABOLIC

ENZYME POOL but are used to SUPPLEMENT it...which is good but it's a

huge shot gun approach when it comes to fibrin...betting that the

enzymes you're ingesting will make it to their target sites and be

able

to activate once they get there...it's better than nothing but isn't

real efficient... which is why I developed ActiZyme™... and

remember,

clearing the debris after you've broken it up is critically

important

too...(pure water and exercize and beta glucan...) or else you've

just

redeposited it somewhere else...

Also, ActiZyme has no animal products in it except the gel

capsule...there is no papaya, bromelain, etc. It contains enzymes

specific for activating fibrinogen to dissolve excess fibrin, unlike

Wobenzyme which are general protein digesting enzymes that are not

specific to fibrin but are broad spectrum and may dissolve some

fibrin

if you get enough. It also tends to cause tremendous gastric

inflammation and upset, which I haven't seen with ActiZyme™.

I hope this answers your questions. Feel free to contact me if you

need more info.

God Bless...

Dr.Bormann

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  • 5 months later...

> Hi Phil,

> Have you used or other CFS patients you know used this Actizyme

> product you posted about ?

> Thanks,

> Al

>

>

Al

I know of no others using it. I first heard about it on

the " symphonic health " list. I do recall Ken L using bromelain to

potentiate his antibiotics.

Phil

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